Zimmerman Sues NBC

[thegreekdog]

I hate to get involved in a CC race war, but - striving for honesty as I do, regardless of where it takes me - I discover that, in in this case, Scott has a factual point. I remain to be convinced on the theoretical point, but am more open to considering it.

- A Google News Archive search of the five year period from March 23, 2006 to March 23, 2011 finds only 5 instances where the phrase "is a white Hispanic" was used.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=u ... 00&bih=799

- A Google News Archive search of the last month finds the phrase was used 342 times.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=u ... 00&bih=799

Was there a recent change in the AP style guide, is a prefix being used to prevent inflaming a competitive constituency or does a white-on-black frame prevent a more compelling and salable story than just another instance of Hispanic-on-Black violence which has become very common (in California at least)?

In any case, I'm not sure how this tangibly relates to America's White-Black President Obama or his campaign against White-White Romney.

I seem to remember a large number of national news stories regarding the various Hispanic-on-Black and Black-on-Hispanic violent crimes occuring throughout the nation. The president regularly indicates that random black men who were subject to said violence "could be my son." Although, technically, they couldn't, because as you rightly indicate, the president is of mixed race... so a 100% African American man couldn't be the president's son. If he's going to do that, at least he should start indicating that young men of all races could be his sons.

I do wonder whether the African-American constituency is a competitive constituency Saxi. Perhaps you meant to say "inflame the base voter group." If so, this story (and the predictable conservative reaction) is perfect for that.

[saxitoxin]

physical confrontation occurs (whose fault probably never to be determined

what the f*ck are you talking about? the 250 lbs guy following the 140 lbs kid kinda determines who is to blame.

Aradhus does have a point. While it seems hard to believe a guy who was mentoring two black students would also have an insane desire to kill black students, Zimmerman chose to put himself in a situation in which his actions will inevitably be viewed with suspicion.

What was he thinking he could accomplish following Martin when he had no legal authority to stop or question him? Anyone who's taken a NRA firearm safety course knows gun owners have a responsibility to avoid confrontation. It seems like Zimmerman was looking for an opportunity to be a hero and wasn't thinking rationally.

One can probably accept Zimmerman has blame here without subscribing to the race conspiracy theory. I'm not sure why the two have to be inseperable.

[ViperOverLord]

physical confrontation occurs (whose fault probably never to be determined

what the f*ck are you talking about? the 250 lbs guy following the 140 lbs kid kinda determines who is to blame.

Aradhus does have a point. While it seems hard to believe a guy who was mentoring two black students would also have an insane desire to kill black students, Zimmerman chose to put himself in a situation in which his actions will inevitably be viewed with suspicion.

What was he thinking he could accomplish following Martin when he had no legal authority to stop or question him? Anyone who's taken a NRA firearm safety course knows gun owners have a responsibility to avoid confrontation. It seems like Zimmerman was looking for an opportunity to be a hero and wasn't thinking rationally.

One can probably accept Zimmerman has blame here without subscribing to the race conspiracy theory. I'm not sure why the two have to be inseperable.

If you're trying to murder someone, do you call 911 and tell them to be on the scene?

[Aradhus]

are you smoking crack tgd? A - Obama looks like a black man. What the f*ck are you talking about? Is he not speaking out enough about white kids being gunned down and the murder not investigated properly?

B - the point he is making is that wether you're the son of the president, or some random schmo on the street, your death deserves to be treated with the same level of investigation. Without bias. Without prejudice. With justice.

[Aradhus]

physical confrontation occurs (whose fault probably never to be determined

what the f*ck are you talking about? the 250 lbs guy following the 140 lbs kid kinda determines who is to blame.

Aradhus does have a point. While it seems hard to believe a guy who was mentoring two black students would also have an insane desire to kill black students, Zimmerman chose to put himself in a situation in which his actions will inevitably be viewed with suspicion.

What was he thinking he could accomplish following Martin when he had no legal authority to stop or question him? Anyone who's taken a NRA firearm safety course knows gun owners have a responsibility to avoid confrontation. It seems like Zimmerman was looking for an opportunity to be a hero and wasn't thinking rationally.

One can probably accept Zimmerman has blame here without subscribing to the race conspiracy theory. I'm not sure why the two have to be inseperable.

If you're trying to murder someone, do you call 911 and tell them to be on the scene?

yeah, if you're smart, you've got the perfect fucking alibi.

[saxitoxin]

@TGD ... By competitive constiuency I guess I meant to ask if the media were trying to prevent inciting a Brown/Black race war by relabeling Zimmerman something else? There are Hispanic on Black tensions in some parts of southern California, is there a similar situation in this part of Florida?

[Phatscotty]

physical confrontation occurs (whose fault probably never to be determined

what the f*ck are you talking about? the 250 lbs guy following the 140 lbs kid kinda determines who is to blame.

Pretty much an open and shut case. No trial needed

x a billion

[ViperOverLord]

physical confrontation occurs (whose fault probably never to be determined

what the f*ck are you talking about? the 250 lbs guy following the 140 lbs kid kinda determines who is to blame.

Pretty much an open and shut case. No trial needed

x a billion

Is that like his way of saying he wants to imprison obese people?

Presumed guilt based on weight? Is he citing some sort of new age legal doctrine? Did he get that straight from the UN?

[saxitoxin]

physical confrontation occurs (whose fault probably never to be determined

what the f*ck are you talking about? the 250 lbs guy following the 140 lbs kid kinda determines who is to blame.

Aradhus does have a point. While it seems hard to believe a guy who was mentoring two black students would also have an insane desire to kill black students, Zimmerman chose to put himself in a situation in which his actions will inevitably be viewed with suspicion.

What was he thinking he could accomplish following Martin when he had no legal authority to stop or question him? Anyone who's taken a NRA firearm safety course knows gun owners have a responsibility to avoid confrontation. It seems like Zimmerman was looking for an opportunity to be a hero and wasn't thinking rationally.

One can probably accept Zimmerman has blame here without subscribing to the race conspiracy theory. I'm not sure why the two have to be inseperable.

If you're trying to murder someone, do you call 911 and tell them to be on the scene?

yeah, if you're smart, you've got the perfect fucking alibi.

I'm not sure how common this kind of grand, multi-layered Machiavellian plot is outside of Harrison Ford movies. But I'm no expert, I could be wrong.

[codeblue1018]

physical confrontation occurs (whose fault probably never to be determined

what the f*ck are you talking about? the 250 lbs guy following the 140 lbs kid kinda determines who is to blame.

Pretty much an open and shut case. No trial needed

x a billion

Is that like his way of saying he wants to imprison obese people?

Presumed guilt based on weight? Is he citing some sort of new age legal doctrine? Did he get that straight from the UN?

I didn't know weight had anything to do with whether or not someone could be dangerous or could be a threat. Clearly the "250lb adult" following the "140lb kid" makes this case clear cut.
Yet another gem of a post.

[ViperOverLord]

If you're trying to murder someone, do you call 911 and tell them to be on the scene?

yeah, if you're smart, you've got the perfect fucking alibi.

I'm not sure how common this kind of grand, multi-layered Machiavellian plot is outside of Harrison Ford movies. But I'm no expert, I could be wrong.

"I'll call the cops. And then in front of witnesses, kill that &*%$# %$&^#. And then I'll point my gun at them and tell them they're *&^*% dead if they tell anybody what happened. Then I'll bloody my nose and make it look like I was assaulted. And the cops will show up and it'll all just look like self defense. It's perfect. Nothing can foil my evil plans." -- George Zimmerman

[Aradhus]

physical confrontation occurs (whose fault probably never to be determined

what the f*ck are you talking about? the 250 lbs guy following the 140 lbs kid kinda determines who is to blame.

Pretty much an open and shut case. No trial needed

x a billion

wow, you people are dense. following is the important term in that post. Pointing out their weight makes it fairly obvious to anyone with a brain, that it would be as hard as hell for the kid to get somebody almost double his weight onto the ground.

Now go take you bundles of hay and f*ck off.

[Aradhus]

So it is somehow my fault you're all dense imbeciles with an inability to read at a proficient levek. Saxi read, he got it.

[Aradhus]

VOL deletes his inane post before I pressed submit with my reply.

So it is somehow my fault you're all dense imbeciles with an inability to read at a proficient levek. Saxi read, he got it.

[Baron Von PWN]

Although there is a pretty large weight disparity, I've seen guys double the weight of their opponents get taken down. I don't really know anything about this case, but just pointing out its not that crazy an idea that a physically fit 140lbs guy take down a 240lbs guy.

Heck I did it a bunch of times when I was taking Karate.