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Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby Symmetry on Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:26 pm

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A man is known by the company he keeps. One day before Florida courts charged George Zimmerman with the murder of Trayvon Martin, armed neo-Nazis in shiny black boots were patrolling the streets. ā€œWe want to be sure that white residents of the area feel safe,ā€ one of them told The Independentā€™s Guy Adams. But their conflation of protection and victimisation is nothing new in Sanford, Florida. For the last few weeks their online counterparts have been uncomfortably close to the conservative media in a campaign to smear the dead teenager before his killer was even charged.

Zimmerman is in the hands of the law, now, and his guilt or innocence remains to be proven. But his case has been political dynamite (on Tuesday came the bizarre twist that George Zimmerman was confiding in conservative talk radio host Sean Hannity even while his lawyers were desperate to contact him). Campaigns for an arrest had gone on for some time, but once the President got involved, things got partisan. After Barack Obama told Martinā€™s parents ā€œif I had a son, heā€™d look like Trayvonā€, blogs and websites surrounding key conservative figures like Glenn Beck and Dick Cheney began calling for the country to ā€˜wait for the factsā€™ and respect ā€˜due processā€™, rallying on Twitter around the #teamdueprocess hashtag. They did this by implying that Martin was a criminal.

On March 19, Beckā€™s website, The Blaze, speculated without much evidence that Martin could have been suspended from school for drug possession, ā€œsexual harassmentā€, or ā€œarsonā€. The Miami Herald spent four paragraphs listing ā€˜suspiciousā€™ facts about Martinā€™s bags (like ā€œwomenā€™s jewelleryā€ and a ā€œburglary toolā€) and on the same day, The Daily Caller, co-founded by Dick Cheney, published a compilation of tweets reportedly culled from Martinā€™s deleted Twitter account, by an ā€˜undisclosed sourceā€™. The Conservative Review immediately branded the teen ā€œa criminal thug on his way to a life in prisonā€.

The campaign of character assassination didnā€™t stop with the right wing media. On March 25, a Twitter news site run by another Fox News contributor, Michelle Malkin, posted a picture of an entirely different Trayvon Martin which had appeared one day before on the neo-nazi website Stormfront.

On March 29, a white supremacist hacker called ā€˜Klanklannonā€™ took up the work of Cheneyā€™s Caller and leaked private messages he claimed belonged to Martin. The hacker invited people to log into Martinā€™s gmail account and see for themselves, having helpfully changed the password to ā€˜n*ggern*ggern*ggerā€™.

Meanwhile, the conservative National Review had the nerve to fire contributing editor John Derbyshire on April 8 for looking beyond the controversy to the wider issues at stake. ā€œAvoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally,ā€ he wrote in an article for Takiā€™s Magazine, responding to Trayvon-inspired race debates by describing ā€˜the talkā€™ he gives to his kids. ā€œDo not attend events likely to draw a lot of blacks,ā€ he went on (each point was backed up by a link to a crime or scandal which happened to involve an African-American). Avoid amusement parks if they are ā€œswamped with blacks,ā€ he warned; ā€œDo not settle in a district or municipality run by black politicians.ā€

In the Fox-News-o-sphereā€™s focus on Trayvon and its implication that Zimmerman needed ā€œprotectingā€ from a dangerous thug is the germ of the idea that brought Nazis to Sanford. Anything in Martinā€™s life that was remotely ā€˜suspectā€™ (or, often, youthful) became evidence that he was a threat ā€“ better evidence, apparently, than prosecutors could ever provide.

ā€˜Protectionā€™ has served as a worse excuse before. In his terrifying expose of post-Katrina killings in New Orleans, AC Thompson shows how a white militia group described as ā€œthe ultimate neighbourhood watchā€ attacked black citizens with impunity. 32-year-old Donnell Herrington was shot in the neck by vigilantes ā€“ he claimed there was no warning ā€“ in affluent Algiers Point, which one militiaman gleefully described as ā€œlike pheasant season in South Dakotaā€. ā€œIā€™m not a prejudiced individual,ā€ said another, ā€œbut you just know the outlaws who are up to no good. You can see it in their eyes.ā€

Then, as the New Statesman notes, there was Camp Grayhound, a ā€œfacsimile of Guantanamo Bayā€ built in two days by prison labour where the militias brought ā€˜arrestedā€™ citizens to be thrown in outdoor cages and repeatedly pepper-sprayed. One was Syrian-American Abdulrahman Zeitoun, the subject of a non-fiction book by Dave Eggers, who spent three days there for no particular reason (ā€œyou guys are al-Qaā€™ida,ā€ he was told; ā€œWeā€™re taking our city backā€). According to the Statesman, police had claimed that babies were being raped in the refugee camps and that officers should ā€œshoot lootersā€. Last year the entire New Orleans Police Department was placed under judicial supervision as a threat to the public.

For the Katrina militias, as for the Sanford neo-Nazis, protecting white America meant threatening blacks; for the conservative blogosphere, protecting George Zimmerman means dirtying the name of a dead youth. This uneasy parity in logic reveals the racist undertones of a campaign to thugify Trayvon which writers have shared with white supremacists. Zimmerman will be tried by the courts, now, and not by the media ā€“ which is all the protesters ever wanted. But in the meantime, the American far right must take a serious look at the company it keeps.


Concerning, yes?
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:57 am

Symmetry wrote:Concerning, yes?


When 12 extremists muster enough support to put together a demonstration every 3 years it warrants attention.

When 10,000 extremists must enough support to put together a demonstration every 3 weeks it warrants concern and/or UN peacekeeping troops.







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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:12 am

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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby Maugena on Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:29 am

@Symmetry
I'm more concerned about you not having censored out the triple racial-slur. D:
(For your own sake in regards to moderation... as well as anyone that may be offended by it.)
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:51 am

Maugena wrote:I'm more concerned about you not having censored out the triple racial-slur. D:


Sorry I didn't make it that far in before I posted it as it was too disturbing and I had to stop watching.

Sadly the reality of having your friends and relatives rounded-up by militias has become part of normal life for millions of Britons and is why so many people are calling for immediate intervention by EURGENDFOR before unrest again breaks-out this summer.

    This kind of terror by organized paramilitaries used to be limited to the six occupied counties of Ulster but now it's a daily occurrence in the vast, crumbling cityscapes of the Midlands.
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby Night Strike on Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:41 am

Why would neo-Nazis protect Zimmerman when he's not white? And the article forgets to mention the character assassinations against Zimmerman.
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby Timminz on Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:00 am

What kind of "character" is left to "assassinate" after a man has shot an unarmed teenager to death?
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby oVo on Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:20 am

It's the victim of the shooting who's character has been under attack.
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby DangerBoy on Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:42 am

Night Strike wrote:Why would neo-Nazis protect Zimmerman when he's not white? And the article forgets to mention the character assassinations against Zimmerman.


Because at least one major newspaper described Zimmerman as a white hispanic. Don't laugh - they actually did.
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby patches70 on Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:22 am

Wow, fringe groups have a habit of using situations to further their own goals and really care nothing for the principles involved in the case. Now we know thanks to the insightful and illuminating blog of someone who has no agenda.
You know, this revelation may have come as a surprise to only the poster of the OP.
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:58 am

Night Strike wrote:Why would neo-Nazis protect Zimmerman when he's not white?



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Symm doesn't think about that kind of stuff. some might wonder if there was a bit of brainwashing here
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby oVo on Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:59 pm

Night Strike wrote:Why would neo-Nazis protect Zimmerman when he's not white?

Even though all media has buggered this story, they're still a sandwich short of a picnic and figure any publicity is still good publicity. Otherwise the world might forget they exist. Florida isn't known for it's free thinking fascist retirement communities.
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby Symmetry on Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:30 pm

Night Strike wrote:Why would neo-Nazis protect Zimmerman when he's not white? And the article forgets to mention the character assassinations against Zimmerman.


Why not accept the obvious bias the right-wing media has has with regards to this case? Why demand that an article on right wing bias talk about things other than right-wing bias?

Seems like you want the article to be about something other than what it is.
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby patches70 on Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:53 pm

Symmetry wrote:Why not accept the obvious bias the right-wing media has has with regards to this case? Why demand that an article on right wing bias talk about things other than right-wing bias?

Seems like you want the article to be about something other than what it is.


Are you saying that there is no such thing as left wing bias?
Or are you saying that right wing bias is worse than left wing bias?
Is the article you posted an example of left wing or right wing bias?
If articles all the time display right or left wing bias, and it's as prevalent as many already know it to be, what is concerning?

One has to be pretty darn thick to think there is only right wing bias. One must be pretty thick to believe one is worse than the other. Freedom of speech enables all points of view to be put out there, one of our (the US) core beliefs. Just because extremes from either left or right have the right to pander their stupidity, no one is forced to buy into it. All but the fringe of either left or right are able to see what this stuff is and are quite capable of making their own minds up.

So, no it's not concerning. If it was then we'd have to reevaluate our core beliefs. The more extreme positions offered up to the public, the more it drives greater numbers into the center. So it's good to have this extremist stuff, from both left and right. At the least, it provides lots of material to mock and make fun of.
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby Symmetry on Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:57 pm

patches70 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Why not accept the obvious bias the right-wing media has has with regards to this case? Why demand that an article on right wing bias talk about things other than right-wing bias?

Seems like you want the article to be about something other than what it is.


Are you saying that there is no such thing as left wing bias?
Or are you saying that right wing bias is worse than left wing bias?
Is the article you posted an example of left wing or right wing bias?
If articles all the time display right or left wing bias, and it's as prevalent as many already know it to be, what is concerning?

One has to be pretty darn thick to think there is only right wing bias. One must be pretty thick to believe one is worse than the other. Freedom of speech enables all points of view to be put out there, one of our (the US) core beliefs. Just because extremes from either left or right have the right to pander their stupidity, no one is forced to buy into it. All but the fringe of either left or right are able to see what this stuff is and are quite capable of making their own minds up.

So, no it's not concerning. If it was then we'd have to reevaluate our core beliefs. The more extreme positions offered up to the public, the more it drives greater numbers into the center. So it's good to have this extremist stuff, from both left and right. At the least, it provides lots of material to mock and make fun of.


The answer to the first question is no, the rest of your post is another of your rants based on your weird assumption that I would have answered "yes", and is kind of strange and a bit creepy.

You totally destroyed that strawman though, well done.
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby spurgistan on Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:02 pm

Yeah, that strawman just got the straw literally kicked out of it.
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby patches70 on Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:02 pm

Man you are thick. Your question in the OP, and I quote-

"Concerning, yes?"

I answered "no" and told you why I answered no.

Now, state why I'm wrong or STFU.
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby Symmetry on Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:08 pm

patches70 wrote:Man you are thick. Your question in the OP, and I quote-

"Concerning, yes?"

I answered "no" and told you why I answered no.

Now, state why I'm wrong or STFU.


I don't think I'll be doing that, but thanks for your well-thought out, carefully comprised contributions to the discussion.
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby Symmetry on Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:20 pm

Maugena wrote:@Symmetry
I'm more concerned about you not having censored out the triple racial-slur. D:
(For your own sake in regards to moderation... as well as anyone that may be offended by it.)


The post has been changed, thanks for the heads up!
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:43 pm

Symmetry wrote:
Maugena wrote:@Symmetry
I'm more concerned about you not having censored out the triple racial-slur. D:
(For your own sake in regards to moderation... as well as anyone that may be offended by it.)


The post has been changed, thanks for the heads up!


Symm.... SHAME! [-(

No Apology?!?!

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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby Symmetry on Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:44 pm

Meh, dude was concerned, it's not a big change. Easy accommodation.
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:44 pm

Symmetry wrote:Meh, dude was offended, it's not a big change. Easy accommodation.


......being on the left means never having to say you're sorry............
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby Symmetry on Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:49 pm

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Symmetry wrote:Meh, dude was offended, it's not a big change. Easy accommodation.


......being on the left means never having to say you are sorry............


Are you really trying to defend the right wing bias mentioned in the OP by arguing that I shouldn't have quoted the racist stuff correctly, after I censored the most racist parts? What should I apologize for?
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Postby Phatscotty on Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:54 pm

Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Meh, dude was offended, it's not a big change. Easy accommodation.


......being on the left means never having to say you are sorry............


Are you really trying to defend the right wing bias mentioned in the OP by arguing that I shouldn't have quoted the racist stuff correctly, after I censored the most racist parts? What should I apologize for?


Are you really pretending you didn't post the N-word? And you think you have the right to call other people racist or judge what is racist? :roll:

Why don't you and the gang take a break from all the racists stuff eh? We are getting sick of it and it's ruining this place.
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Re: Right Wing Media bias brainwashes public on Martin Case

Postby Symmetry on Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:02 pm

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Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Meh, dude was offended, it's not a big change. Easy accommodation.


......being on the left means never having to say you are sorry............


Are you really trying to defend the right wing bias mentioned in the OP by arguing that I shouldn't have quoted the racist stuff correctly, after I censored the most racist parts? What should I apologize for?


Are you really pretending you didn't post the N-word? And you think you have the right to call other people racist or judge what is racist? :roll:

Why don't you and the gang take a break from all the racists stuff eh? We are getting sick of it and it's ruining this place.


I did not, I quoted it, being used by a racist, and made changes when asked by another poster.

I'm guessing from your post that you have a different agenda from criticising me for posting that article verbatim though.
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