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Are CC atheists accurately portraying Christian beliefs?

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Re: Do CC atheists accurately portray Christian positions?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:32 pm

DangerBoy wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:This is the internet. "Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact"


They (CC atheists) seem to take what they write very seriously when it comes to the Christian faith.



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Re: Do CC atheists accurately portray Christian positions?

Postby pmchugh on Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:49 pm

beezer wrote:It is nice to see that most people see through the atheist facade with these threads they create.


Haha, I voted no in this poll even though I am the one referenced in OP. It is not our fault that your views are so diverse that we can never accurately portray them.

Phatscotty wrote:but, white evengelicals are higher than Atheists. Nice poll that breaks up Christians into 9 different groups, and even further by race.

That like a cherry picking convention for cherry pickers.


I'm so disappointed in you scotty, I should have picked a better life mentor. The Atheists as a whole scored better than the Christians as a whole. You are the one cherry picking [-X
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Re: Do CC atheists accurately portray Christian positions?

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Re: Do CC atheists accurately portray Christian positions?

Postby CoffeeCream on Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:56 am

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    hre[*]ad misrepresenting the Christian position on hell got me to thinking how many people here know that CC atheists intentionally spin religious subjects. Just wondered how many?


    When I was searching for what Christians believed, I happened upon this website around the same time. I specifically addressed them, but the atheists here kept trying to interrupt and distract from our discussions. Eventually I made the decision to follow Christ, not entirely based on what Christians here told me, but also on what I read and checked out on my own. I was influenced a little bit by the behavior of the atheists here. While I wasn't entirely sure when I first started asking questions if I would want to be a Christian, I knew I didn't want to be like the atheists.
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    Re: Do CC atheists accurately portray Christian positions?

    Postby PLAYER57832 on Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:03 am

    Most atheists refuse to give a real try at understanding Christianity. They have found things they dislike, even disdain and stop there. They have decided that anyone not thinking as they do is not being sensible and therefore have no real desire to even try to understand the other thinking. This is partly because, today, to even admit to being an atheist tends to be a more "extreme" type position. Moderates tend to more often portray themselves as agnostic or simply say "I don't know". (at least those that engage in debate on the matter)
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    Re: Do CC atheists accurately portray Christian positions?

    Postby pmchugh on Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:30 pm

    PLAYER57832 wrote:Most atheists refuse to give a real try at understanding Christianity. They have found things they dislike, even disdain and stop there. They have decided that anyone not thinking as they do is not being sensible and therefore have no real desire to even try to understand the other thinking. This is partly because, today, to even admit to being an atheist tends to be a more "extreme" type position. Moderates tend to more often portray themselves as agnostic or simply say "I don't know". (at least those that engage in debate on the matter)


    Lol, look at how hypocritical you are in these two threads. In the "Christian on Christian" thread it was all about the diversity of the religion, in this one its all the Atheists fault for not taking the time to understand.
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    Re: Do CC atheists accurately portray Christian positions?

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    Re: Do CC atheists accurately portray Christian positions?

    Postby pimpdave on Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:20 am

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    Re: Do CC atheists accurately portray Christian positions?

    Postby beezer on Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:22 pm

    - or it could just be it's dave that's lost it
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    Re: Do CC atheists accurately portray Christian positions?

    Postby pimpdave on Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:31 pm

    beezer wrote:- or it could just be it's dave that's lost it


    My faith? Yeah, a long time ago.
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    Re: Do CC atheists accurately portray Christian positions?

    Postby CoffeeCream on Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:54 pm

    yeah, dave's definitely lost it again
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    Re: Do CC atheists accurately portray Christian positions?

    Postby pimpdave on Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:02 pm

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    Re: Do CC atheists accurately portray Christian positions?

    Postby DangerBoy on Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:25 pm

    Perhaps dave could post a pro-atheist or anti-Christian picture. It's never been tried before, and will probably persuade a ton of people.
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    Re: Do CC atheists accurately portray Christian positions?

    Postby PLAYER57832 on Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:13 pm

    pmchugh wrote:
    PLAYER57832 wrote:Most atheists refuse to give a real try at understanding Christianity. They have found things they dislike, even disdain and stop there. They have decided that anyone not thinking as they do is not being sensible and therefore have no real desire to even try to understand the other thinking. This is partly because, today, to even admit to being an atheist tends to be a more "extreme" type position. Moderates tend to more often portray themselves as agnostic or simply say "I don't know". (at least those that engage in debate on the matter)


    Lol, look at how hypocritical you are in these two threads. In the "Christian on Christian" thread it was all about the diversity of the religion, in this one its all the Atheists fault for not taking the time to understand.

    Nothing hypocritical at all.

    Its semantics you debate. If the references were to religions that are atheistic, my answer would have differed. Atheism, particularly in the west is an absolute statement. "There is no God". Atheistic religions can vary a great deal, but the term is definite, unlike Christianity about which there is no agreement even on what I (and most self-identified Christians) would consider pretty fundamental points.. such as that Christ is divine, etc.

    The other side to this is that atheism in the west is still largely composed of people who have fairly recently rejected Christianity or Judaism. This is not true in the East, but very few posters here are from those backgrounds. Those posters here who post about atheism are, to a large extent taking the stance of atheism being a kind of "anti-Christianity". They reject Christianity, and so lean toward atheism. But.. and this is important, many, many people question the Christian faith and other faiths without necessarily declaring they are atheist. Only those who are very against the "God-based" religions tend to identify themselves as atheists. Those who vary tend to identify themselves as agnostic or to say something like "I don't really consider myself Christian/Jewish/etc, but..."

    For both of those reasons, there is nothing hypocritical about my answer. Atheism is fundamentally different than Christianity in that it IS a very specific idea, whereas Christianity is not and becuase those who self-identify as atheist are far more likely to be firm in their rejection of opposing ideas than those who subscribe to Christianity.
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    Re: Do CC atheists accurately portray Christian positions?

    Postby pmchugh on Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:25 pm

    PLAYER57832 wrote:
    pmchugh wrote:
    PLAYER57832 wrote:Most atheists refuse to give a real try at understanding Christianity. They have found things they dislike, even disdain and stop there. They have decided that anyone not thinking as they do is not being sensible and therefore have no real desire to even try to understand the other thinking. This is partly because, today, to even admit to being an atheist tends to be a more "extreme" type position. Moderates tend to more often portray themselves as agnostic or simply say "I don't know". (at least those that engage in debate on the matter)


    Lol, look at how hypocritical you are in these two threads. In the "Christian on Christian" thread it was all about the diversity of the religion, in this one its all the Atheists fault for not taking the time to understand.
    Its semantics you debate. If the references were to religions that are atheistic, my answer would have differed. Atheism, particularly in the west is an absolute statement. "There is no God". Atheistic religions can vary a great deal, but the term is definite, unlike Christianity about which there is no agreement even on what I (and most self-identified Christians) would consider pretty fundamental points.. such as that Christ is divine, etc.

    The other side to this is that atheism in the west is still largely composed of people who have fairly recently rejected Christianity or Judaism. This is not true in the East, but very few posters here are from those backgrounds. Those posters here who post about atheism are, to a large extent taking the stance of atheism being a kind of "anti-Christianity". They reject Christianity, and so lean toward atheism. But.. and this is important, many, many people question the Christian faith and other faiths without necessarily declaring they are atheist. Only those who are very against the "God-based" religions tend to identify themselves as atheists. Those who vary tend to identify themselves as agnostic or to say something like "I don't really consider myself Christian/Jewish/etc, but..."

    For both of those reasons, there is nothing hypocritical about my answer. Atheism is fundamentally different than Christianity in that it IS a very specific idea, whereas Christianity is not and becuase those who self-identify as atheist are far more likely to be firm in their rejection of opposing ideas than those who subscribe to Christianity.


    Lol this makes no sense. No one was talking about atheistic views. Let me illustrate with your two posts even in this thread.

    unlike Christianity about which there is no agreement even on what I (and most self-identified Christians) would consider pretty fundamental points.. such as that Christ is divine, etc.


    Most atheists refuse to give a real try at understanding Christianity.


    First quote says, "Christianity is loosely defined" and the second one accuses Atheists of not taking time to understand Christians points of view as if they were clearly set out.

    What makes this even funnier is that you openly admit in your post that most western Atheists were Christians not so long ago, surely then they have considered and perhaps even have experience of the Christian POV.
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