Conquer Club

Neoteny wrote:I'm seriously disappointed that the Wings did jackshit.

I'm disappointed, but not surprised. Trade Deadline Day used to be an event here in Detroit. The Wings were always wheeling and dealing. Among our previous acquisitions: Chris Chelios, Wendel Clark, Ulf Samuelsson, Larry Murphy, Todd Bertuzzi, Mathieu Schneider, Brad Stuart, Robert Lang... we were always picking someone up. Now? They're HOPING that Bertuzzi, Mikael Samuelsson, and Darren Helm come back from being injured all year to be their "deadline additions". It's quite disappointing.

BUT... I'm not surprised. The salary cap is going down next year. Detroit isn't a piece away from winning the Cup... they need several pieces. They're high on some of the young kids in their system, so they're being cautious in trading away pieces. I'm hoping they are active this offseason. Of course, I hoped that this past offseason too, and all they got was Jordan Tootoo (who I like, but he's a role player), Samuelsson (hurt) and Carlo Colaiacovo (hurt most of the year). They did sign Damien Brunner, who turned out to be better than expected, but he hit a major wall, not scoring in 16 games. They tried to sign Parise and Suter, but failed as they both went to Minnesota (for ridiculous contracts, I might add). We'll see if they can lure anyone to Hockeytown this time around.

Bollocks.

Well that was the worst game of the season.

Serbia wrote:

Neoteny wrote:I'm seriously disappointed that the Wings did jackshit.

I'm disappointed, but not surprised. Trade Deadline Day used to be an event here in Detroit. The Wings were always wheeling and dealing. Among our previous acquisitions: Chris Chelios, Wendel Clark, Ulf Samuelsson, Larry Murphy, Todd Bertuzzi, Mathieu Schneider, Brad Stuart, Robert Lang... we were always picking someone up. Now? They're HOPING that Bertuzzi, Mikael Samuelsson, and Darren Helm come back from being injured all year to be their "deadline additions". It's quite disappointing.

BUT... I'm not surprised. The salary cap is going down next year. Detroit isn't a piece away from winning the Cup... they need several pieces. They're high on some of the young kids in their system, so they're being cautious in trading away pieces. I'm hoping they are active this offseason. Of course, I hoped that this past offseason too, and all they got was Jordan Tootoo (who I like, but he's a role player), Samuelsson (hurt) and Carlo Colaiacovo (hurt most of the year). They did sign Damien Brunner, who turned out to be better than expected, but he hit a major wall, not scoring in 16 games. They tried to sign Parise and Suter, but failed as they both went to Minnesota (for ridiculous contracts, I might add). We'll see if they can lure anyone to Hockeytown this time around.

Bollocks.

Now that your wheels are gone you can't deal anymore .

Don't know how much I like the Caps trade from yesterday (Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat and a prospect). I don't know enough about Forsberg, but the concensus around me was that he was too good to trade. We'll see how Erat plays. They seem to be turning it around at the right time, Green just scored a goal, and I think that gives him a goal in 4 straight games, which is nice. I hope the Erat trade is enough to push us into the playoffs, and maybe get us to the East Conference Finals.

Leafs picked up Ryan O'Byrne for a fourth round pick.

That's right, nothing for nobody.

Timminz wrote: nothing for nobody.

nobody's contract is more null than nothing's

One day after honouring Steve Sullivan for his 1000th game played, the Coyotes trade him for a 7th round pick.

Army of GOD wrote:Well that was the worst game of the season.

I was at the Garden. You should have heard the fans - acting like they'd just won the Cup.
The game was awful. We were playing Rangers hockey: dump, pretend to chase, give away.
Rangers' new boys looked good, though, which also sucks, because it makes Sather look good.

Hopefully Jussi gives us a bit of a spark, and we can do better tonight.
sempai

Three points out of a playoff spot the Stars front office says "they haven't given up on the season," yet send Jagr --their high scorer-- to Boston.

sempaispellcheck wrote:

Army of GOD wrote:Well that was the worst game of the season.

I was at the Garden. You should have heard the fans - acting like they'd just won the Cup.
The game was awful. We were playing Rangers hockey: dump, pretend to chase, give away.
Rangers' new boys looked good, though, which also sucks, because it makes Sather look good.

Hopefully Jussi gives us a bit of a spark, and we can do better tonight.
sempai

Weird to think about it but our defense has been really shaky since the loss of Martin and Crosby.

denominator wrote:One day after honouring Steve Sullivan for his 1000th game played, the Coyotes trade him for a 7th round pick.

Didn't know that - priceless!

Bollocks.

Army of GOD wrote:

sempaispellcheck wrote:

Army of GOD wrote:Well that was the worst game of the season.

I was at the Garden. You should have heard the fans - acting like they'd just won the Cup.
The game was awful. We were playing Rangers hockey: dump, pretend to chase, give away.
Rangers' new boys looked good, though, which also sucks, because it makes Sather look good.

Hopefully Jussi gives us a bit of a spark, and we can do better tonight.
sempai

Weird to think about it but our defense has been really shaky since the loss of Martin and Crosby.

It's not that weird when you consider that Letang's been out for a while, too.
It's amazing that we were able to win 15 straight games even with the injuries we had.

sempai

denominator wrote:One day after honouring Steve Sullivan for his 1000th game played, the Coyotes trade him for a 7th round pick.

Is that better or worse than the flames trying to sell their entire line-up?

Datsyuk is fucking incredible! 2 goals last night in Denver, along with the winner with seconds left in OT. He does things with the puck that no one else in the league is capable of.

The Wings may just win enough to keep their playoff streak alive, but unless they're able to move up to the 6 spot, they'll definitely be 1-and-done.

Bollocks.

Sens slumping. Hope the return of Anderson picks them up a bit.

Timminz wrote:

denominator wrote:One day after honouring Steve Sullivan for his 1000th game played, the Coyotes trade him for a 7th round pick.

Is that better or worse than the flames trying to sell their entire line-up?

It would be nice if the Feaster actually decided to rebuild instead of this "retool" bullshit he keeps selling everyone. The Flames needed to trade Iginla last season or the year before when his stock was still high, and Bouwmeester was actually a fairly decent trade (though one wonders how Feaster manages to get talked into strange conditions on every pick). Dumping Comeau for a 5th rounder was a terrible trade.

The issue in Calgary is more in the management and development of prospects. The Flames have a terrible history of draft pick busts and grooming prospects into nothing. We'll see how they do at the draft this year, with a top-5 pick and 2 20-30 picks.

denominator wrote:

Timminz wrote:

denominator wrote:One day after honouring Steve Sullivan for his 1000th game played, the Coyotes trade him for a 7th round pick.

Is that better or worse than the flames trying to sell their entire line-up?

It would be nice if the Feaster actually decided to rebuild instead of this "retool" bullshit he keeps selling everyone. The Flames needed to trade Iginla last season or the year before when his stock was still high, and Bouwmeester was actually a fairly decent trade (though one wonders how Feaster manages to get talked into strange conditions on every pick). Dumping Comeau for a 5th rounder was a terrible trade.

The issue in Calgary is more in the management and development of prospects. The Flames have a terrible history of draft pick busts and grooming prospects into nothing. We'll see how they do at the draft this year, with a top-5 pick and 2 20-30 picks.

I'm hoping they get at least one of the guys from the Halifax Mooseheads. The Moose are a great team to watch this year, and it would be nice to be able to see some of those guys in Calgary, while I'm living there for the next few years.

Timminz wrote:

denominator wrote:

Timminz wrote:

denominator wrote:One day after honouring Steve Sullivan for his 1000th game played, the Coyotes trade him for a 7th round pick.

Is that better or worse than the flames trying to sell their entire line-up?

It would be nice if the Feaster actually decided to rebuild instead of this "retool" bullshit he keeps selling everyone. The Flames needed to trade Iginla last season or the year before when his stock was still high, and Bouwmeester was actually a fairly decent trade (though one wonders how Feaster manages to get talked into strange conditions on every pick). Dumping Comeau for a 5th rounder was a terrible trade.

The issue in Calgary is more in the management and development of prospects. The Flames have a terrible history of draft pick busts and grooming prospects into nothing. We'll see how they do at the draft this year, with a top-5 pick and 2 20-30 picks.

I'm hoping they get at least one of the guys from the Halifax Mooseheads. The Moose are a great team to watch this year, and it would be nice to be able to see some of those guys in Calgary, while I'm living there for the next few years.

I'd be happy with either Seth Jones or Nate MacKinnon. Drouin is more of a small, skill guy and I'm not convinced he's good enough to be dominant at the NHL level. I'm a season ticket holder with the Hitmen (our local WHL team) and have seen most of the prospects from the WHL - wasn't too impressed with Shinkaruk or Pulock but I think Josh Morrissey would be a good mid to late first round steal.

for fans of the draft ( june 2013 ) :


http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=49649

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=77886

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=77888

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=11343

anyone heard about Drouin #27 :

denominator wrote:

Timminz wrote:

denominator wrote:

Timminz wrote:

denominator wrote:One day after honouring Steve Sullivan for his 1000th game played, the Coyotes trade him for a 7th round pick.

Is that better or worse than the flames trying to sell their entire line-up?

It would be nice if the Feaster actually decided to rebuild instead of this "retool" bullshit he keeps selling everyone. The Flames needed to trade Iginla last season or the year before when his stock was still high, and Bouwmeester was actually a fairly decent trade (though one wonders how Feaster manages to get talked into strange conditions on every pick). Dumping Comeau for a 5th rounder was a terrible trade.

The issue in Calgary is more in the management and development of prospects. The Flames have a terrible history of draft pick busts and grooming prospects into nothing. We'll see how they do at the draft this year, with a top-5 pick and 2 20-30 picks.

I'm hoping they get at least one of the guys from the Halifax Mooseheads. The Moose are a great team to watch this year, and it would be nice to be able to see some of those guys in Calgary, while I'm living there for the next few years.

I'd be happy with either Seth Jones or Nate MacKinnon. Drouin is more of a small, skill guy and I'm not convinced he's good enough to be dominant at the NHL level.

That's the most common comment about Drouin (other than, "holy shit, that kid's good").

I also wouldn't mind seeing Fucale go to Calgary (wouldn't be the top pick, obviously). He's definitely not NHL-ready yet (how many goalies are, at 18), but still, he's a solid performer, and seems to be always getting better.

Timminz wrote:

denominator wrote:

Timminz wrote:

denominator wrote:

Timminz wrote:

denominator wrote:One day after honouring Steve Sullivan for his 1000th game played, the Coyotes trade him for a 7th round pick.

Is that better or worse than the flames trying to sell their entire line-up?

It would be nice if the Feaster actually decided to rebuild instead of this "retool" bullshit he keeps selling everyone. The Flames needed to trade Iginla last season or the year before when his stock was still high, and Bouwmeester was actually a fairly decent trade (though one wonders how Feaster manages to get talked into strange conditions on every pick). Dumping Comeau for a 5th rounder was a terrible trade.

The issue in Calgary is more in the management and development of prospects. The Flames have a terrible history of draft pick busts and grooming prospects into nothing. We'll see how they do at the draft this year, with a top-5 pick and 2 20-30 picks.

I'm hoping they get at least one of the guys from the Halifax Mooseheads. The Moose are a great team to watch this year, and it would be nice to be able to see some of those guys in Calgary, while I'm living there for the next few years.

I'd be happy with either Seth Jones or Nate MacKinnon. Drouin is more of a small, skill guy and I'm not convinced he's good enough to be dominant at the NHL level.

That's the most common comment about Drouin (other than, "holy shit, that kid's good").

I also wouldn't mind seeing Fucale go to Calgary (wouldn't be the top pick, obviously). He's definitely not NHL-ready yet (how many goalies are, at 18), but still, he's a solid performer, and seems to be always getting better.

I'm not saying that Drouin isn't good or won't be an NHL player, just not as much of a lock to be a superstar. Reminds me a bit of the '07 draft - Kane, van Reimsdyk, and Turris. None of them were true duds, but one is a clear top pick over the other two.

I'd hate to see any young goalie get drafted by Calgary. There's a habit in this franchise of killing the confidence of young goaltenders.

Caps are actually starting to look like a playoff contender. Wouldn't want to play them in the playoffs considering how god damn hot they are right now.

Army of GOD wrote:Caps are actually starting to look like a playoff contender. Wouldn't want to play them in the playoffs considering how god damn hot they are right now.

Yeah. It looks like my Sens are poised to play them in the first round. A month ago I would have welcomed that. Today..not so much. With any luck the Leafs keep losing and the Sens pass them.

keiths31 wrote:

Army of GOD wrote:Caps are actually starting to look like a playoff contender. Wouldn't want to play them in the playoffs considering how god damn hot they are right now.

Yeah. It looks like my Sens are poised to play them in the first round. A month ago I would have welcomed that. Today..not so much. With any luck the Leafs keep losing and the Sens pass them.

You'd rather face the Bruins in the first round?