Is Obama a Marxist?

[saxitoxin]

I see what you are saying. I think he is Progressive and influenced by Marx because of what he stands for (what he says he stands for), ad based on his past, which included being directly tutored for years by Marxist Frank Marshall Davis, Jeremiah Wright, Reverand Wallace, his own words in his book "seeking out Marxist professors" ...

... and punk-rock performance poets.

Why do you think management of Goldman-Sachs, Bank of America and Citibank have given so much money to the Marxist Obama? In a people's republic bank assets would be expropriated and nationalized. Are G-S, BoA and Citibank management, (a) in on the conspiracy, or, (b) are they unaware of the plot? (If "B", maybe someone should send them a link to a YouTube video to warn them?)

[Phatscotty]

I see what you are saying. I think he is Progressive and influenced by Marx because of what he stands for (what he says he stands for), ad based on his past, which included being directly tutored for years by Marxist Frank Marshall Davis, Jeremiah Wright, Reverand Wallace, his own words in his book "seeking out Marxist professors" ...

... and punk-rock performance poets.

Why do you think management of Goldman-Sachs, Bank of America and Citibank have given so much money to the Marxist Obama? In a people's republic bank assets would be expropriated and nationalized. Are G-S, BoA and Citibank management, (a) in on the conspiracy, or, (b) are they unaware of the plot? (If "B", maybe someone should send them a link to a YouTube video to warn them?)

Obama/government is totally in bed with the banks. But that's not new, as banks give money to whoever has the power.

They give Obama money for protection from Obama/government.

[saxitoxin]

I see what you are saying. I think he is Progressive and influenced by Marx because of what he stands for (what he says he stands for), ad based on his past, which included being directly tutored for years by Marxist Frank Marshall Davis, Jeremiah Wright, Reverand Wallace, his own words in his book "seeking out Marxist professors" ...

... and punk-rock performance poets.

Why do you think management of Goldman-Sachs, Bank of America and Citibank have given so much money to the Marxist Obama? In a people's republic bank assets would be expropriated and nationalized. Are G-S, BoA and Citibank management, (a) in on the conspiracy, or, (b) are they unaware of the plot? (If "B", maybe someone should send them a link to a YouTube video to warn them?)

Obama/government is totally in bed with the banks.

Then he's not a Marxist.

[saxitoxin]

PS - the problem you're having is that I think you believe "Marxist" is a synonym for "Bad Person." Marxism is an actual ideology.

One might be inclined to believe that (i) all Marxists are bad, however, it does not follow that (ii) all bad people are Marxists. Carrot Top is a terrible person, that doesn't mean he's a Marxist (though maybe he is).

There's actually a stronger case that Ron Paul is a Marxist. His entire theme about the Federal Reserve is essentially lifted from Chapter 29, Volume III of Capital by Marx. Lenin even once said "nine tenths of socialism is a central bank that will print paper money" which dovetails with Paul's meme about transferring currency control from the semi-private Fed to the state-run Treasury. I don't believe Ron Paul is a Marxist, but his actions (versus who he had lunch with on March 13, 1985) put him much closer to Marxism than Barack Obama.

[Phatscotty]

PS - the problem you're having is that I think you believe "Marxist" is a synonym for "Bad Person." Marxism is an actual ideology.

nu uh

what is meant by the word "Marxist", (to speak simply for maximum communication impact) as one who prescribes to, follows, is heavily influenced by, shares the philosophy and the theories of Karl Marx and Communism? Anyone feel free to add what else defines a Marxist.

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[BigBallinStalin]

PS - the problem you're having is that I think you believe "Marxist" is a synonym for "Bad Person." Marxism is an actual ideology.

nu uh

what is meant by the word "Marxist", (to speak simply for maximum communication impact) as one who prescribes to, follows, is heavily influenced by, shares the philosophy and the theories of Karl Marx and Communism? Anyone feel free to add what else defines a Marxist.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=176862&start=15#p3861951

Oh, so "Marxist" means means whatever you want it to mean.

[Phatscotty]

PS - the problem you're having is that I think you believe "Marxist" is a synonym for "Bad Person." Marxism is an actual ideology.

nu uh

what is meant by the word "Marxist", (to speak simply for maximum communication impact) as one who prescribes to, follows, is heavily influenced by, shares the philosophy and the theories of Karl Marx and Communism? Anyone feel free to add what else defines a Marxist.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=176862&start=15#p3861951

Oh, so "Marxist" means means whatever you want it to mean.

I was asking you guys if you agreed. If you don't want to be serious about this, why did you make the thread?

Can the community agree, that what is meant by the word "Marxist", (to speak simply for maximum communication impact) as one who prescribes to, follows, is heavily influenced by, shares the philosophy and the theories of Karl Marx and Communism? Anyone feel free to add what else defines a Marxist.

You guys were winning! Saxi and Greekdog are gonna be pissssssed.

[BigBallinStalin]

Is Obama a Marxist?

Most people who understand words, say, "No, because he fails to meet the criteria of a Marxist. His actions say otherwise; his rhetoric fits 30% of the rhetoric of a Marxist, which still doesn't indicate that Obama is a Marxist."


PS says, "Yes, because Obama '...prescribes to, follows, is heavily influenced by, shares the philosophy and the theories of Karl Marx and Communism.'"


In other words, Marxism means whatever you want it to mean. Besides, "Karl Marx != Communism."


There's a difference between "Obama is a Marxist" and "Obama is similar to a Marxist," and the latter is what you're actually saying; however, you keep trying to force your meaning into the former.

Judged by your own words, "Marxism" means whatever you want it to means; same goes for your use of the word "is." It's apparent to all of us.

[GBU56]

Oh look, he can post pictures instead of posting facts.

Are you talking about Phatscotty?

yup. I do not respond with words, and certainly not to you TGD for the last 30 minutes. If you think I'm typing all this shit so that you can turn around and pretend I am the one only posting pictures and dodging all challenges and arguments and ignore GBU is 100% dodging Strike (I have made sure to address everyone) then I am pretty clearly wasting my time.

Who dodges and hide from Night Strike? I just don't have all that free time like you and Night Strike have. You see I have a life outside Conquer Club, you know like earning a living, raising a family and drinking vast amounts of beer to chase down all the b.s. you have vomited on these threads. Yes I post pictures and both Night Strike and you notice this....well done!


......really Glenn Beck viewers are just down right empty headed. Of course your views of President Obama as being Marxist is silly, repetitive and 100% partisan garbage.

Either you're being funny or your mentality is at the same level of Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh.

[saxitoxin]

That's why these threads eventually fall apart. We're all having a good time but everyone starts getting too loud and excited, the Ozombies hear us making noises and come stumbling over, moaning and grabbing.

[thegreekdog]

I see what you are saying. I think he is Progressive and influenced by Marx because of what he stands for (what he says he stands for), ad based on his past, which included being directly tutored for years by Marxist Frank Marshall Davis, Jeremiah Wright, Reverand Wallace, his own words in his book "seeking out Marxist professors", the hand picked appointments of the straight up, self admitted Communists, admitted Maoists, admitted Marxists etc as Czars. I can only imagine what those Czars are doing, not like we will ever know much of the truth concerning them.

I'm going to have to be talked into changing my mind about this. Thanks for trying you made some good points. Just one question: if a Marxist got elected into a capitalist system, would the Marxist take advantage of Crony Capitalism?

That's a virtually impossible scenario. Marxists cannot get elected in our current system because no one would give them any campaign money.

Again, you're still focused on what he did in the past and not what he's done as president. If he is elected again, serves another four year term, and does nothing Marxist, would you then be willing to admit he's not a Marxist?

[AndyDufresne]

Judged by your own words, "Marxism" means whatever you want it to means; same goes for your use of the word "is." It's apparent to all of us.

Is Marx / Marxism the new Smurf? It pretty much was used to mean whatever you need it to mean.


--Andy

[thegreekdog]

Judged by your own words, "Marxism" means whatever you want it to means; same goes for your use of the word "is." It's apparent to all of us.

Is Marx / Marxism the new Smurf? It pretty much was used to mean whatever you need it to mean.


--Andy

Oh my Marx. What are you marxing about now Andy? You damn marx.

[AndyDufresne]

Judged by your own words, "Marxism" means whatever you want it to means; same goes for your use of the word "is." It's apparent to all of us.

Is Marx / Marxism the new Smurf? It pretty much was used to mean whatever you need it to mean.


--Andy

Oh my Marx. What are you marxing about now Andy? You damn marx.

TGD, what crawled up your marx and marxed?

I like this marx game.


--Andy

[saxitoxin]

MAAAAAAARRRRRRRRXXXXXXX!!!