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Is Obama a Marxist?

Of course!, because Marxist means whatever I want it to mean
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Yes
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He's kinda Marxist
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I dunno cuz I'm agnostic
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No
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:37 pm

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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby Phatscotty on Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:17 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:I see what you are saying. I think he is Progressive and influenced by Marx because of what he stands for (what he says he stands for), ad based on his past, which included being directly tutored for years by Marxist Frank Marshall Davis, Jeremiah Wright, Reverand Wallace, his own words in his book "seeking out Marxist professors", the hand picked appointments of the straight up, self admitted Communists, admitted Maoists, admitted Marxists etc as Czars. I can only imagine what those Czars are doing, not like we will ever know much of the truth concerning them.

I'm going to have to be talked into changing my mind about this. Thanks for trying you made some good points. Just one question: if a Marxist got elected into a capitalist system, would the Marxist take advantage of Crony Capitalism?


That's a virtually impossible scenario. Marxists cannot get elected in our current system because no one would give them any campaign money.


What if they lied? Covered up their past? (hint) Obama did lie, and Obama has covered up his past. shhh don't tell anyone though! 8-[
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby PLAYER57832 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:21 pm

Phatscotty wrote: What if they lied? Covered up their past? (hint) Obama did lie, and Obama has covered up his past. shhh don't tell anyone though!
So to what earthshattering cover-ups do you refer, or are you STILL trying to claim that Obama is not a legitimate US citizen.
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:23 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:I see what you are saying. I think he is Progressive and influenced by Marx because of what he stands for (what he says he stands for), ad based on his past, which included being directly tutored for years by Marxist Frank Marshall Davis, Jeremiah Wright, Reverand Wallace, his own words in his book "seeking out Marxist professors", the hand picked appointments of the straight up, self admitted Communists, admitted Maoists, admitted Marxists etc as Czars. I can only imagine what those Czars are doing, not like we will ever know much of the truth concerning them.

I'm going to have to be talked into changing my mind about this. Thanks for trying you made some good points. Just one question: if a Marxist got elected into a capitalist system, would the Marxist take advantage of Crony Capitalism?


That's a virtually impossible scenario. Marxists cannot get elected in our current system because no one would give them any campaign money.


What if they lied? Covered up their past? (hint) Obama did lie, and Obama has covered up his past. shhh don't tell anyone though! 8-[


He's marxing right, TGD! What if they marxed to us? What if they marxed up his past? Obama could have marxed and marxed some more. SHHH! Don't marx it to any marx though!
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:28 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:I see what you are saying. I think he is Progressive and influenced by Marx because of what he stands for (what he says he stands for), ad based on his past, which included being directly tutored for years by Marxist Frank Marshall Davis, Jeremiah Wright, Reverand Wallace, his own words in his book "seeking out Marxist professors", the hand picked appointments of the straight up, self admitted Communists, admitted Maoists, admitted Marxists etc as Czars. I can only imagine what those Czars are doing, not like we will ever know much of the truth concerning them.

I'm going to have to be talked into changing my mind about this. Thanks for trying you made some good points. Just one question: if a Marxist got elected into a capitalist system, would the Marxist take advantage of Crony Capitalism?


That's a virtually impossible scenario. Marxists cannot get elected in our current system because no one would give them any campaign money.


What if they lied? Covered up their past? (hint) Obama did lie, and Obama has covered up his past. shhh don't tell anyone though!


I don't believe Barack Obama is a very bright man, but I think he's probably smart enough to realize that he's not covering anything up by printing it in a book that sold 2 million copies.

Good places to hide secrets:
- on a piece of paper in a safe deposit box
- in a diary stored underneath one's mattress
- on encrypted USB drive secreted in the rectal cavity of a close friend

Bad places to hide secrets:
- chapter 1 of a New York Times bestseller
- the billboard on top of the Capitol Records Building overlooking the 101 freeway
- skywriting over Manhattan during Fleet Week

So far in this thread you haven't revealed anything that Obama's major corporate donors - donors who would have all of their properties nationalized in a Marxist-Leninist state - have free and open access to and have had for many years and yet they keep shoveling money down Obama's wide-open maw faster than Ben Bernake can print it.
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby Phatscotty on Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:37 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:I see what you are saying. I think he is Progressive and influenced by Marx because of what he stands for (what he says he stands for), ad based on his past, which included being directly tutored for years by Marxist Frank Marshall Davis, Jeremiah Wright, Reverand Wallace, his own words in his book "seeking out Marxist professors", the hand picked appointments of the straight up, self admitted Communists, admitted Maoists, admitted Marxists etc as Czars. I can only imagine what those Czars are doing, not like we will ever know much of the truth concerning them.

I'm going to have to be talked into changing my mind about this. Thanks for trying you made some good points. Just one question: if a Marxist got elected into a capitalist system, would the Marxist take advantage of Crony Capitalism?


That's a virtually impossible scenario. Marxists cannot get elected in our current system because no one would give them any campaign money.


What if they lied? Covered up their past? (hint) Obama did lie, and Obama has covered up his past. shhh don't tell anyone though!


I don't believe Barack Obama is a very bright man, but I think he's probably smart enough to realize that he's not covering anything up by printing it in a book that sold 2 million copies.

Good places to hide secrets:
- on a piece of paper in a safe deposit box
- in a diary stored underneath one's mattress
- on encrypted USB drive secreted in the rectal cavity of a close friend

Bad places to hide secrets:
- chapter 1 of a New York Times bestseller
- the billboard on top of the Capitol Records Building overlooking the 101 freeway
- skywriting over Manhattan during Fleet Week


you left out his college records (the best place to hid something, since it's illegal to look!)
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:42 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:I see what you are saying. I think he is Progressive and influenced by Marx because of what he stands for (what he says he stands for), ad based on his past, which included being directly tutored for years by Marxist Frank Marshall Davis, Jeremiah Wright, Reverand Wallace, his own words in his book "seeking out Marxist professors", the hand picked appointments of the straight up, self admitted Communists, admitted Maoists, admitted Marxists etc as Czars. I can only imagine what those Czars are doing, not like we will ever know much of the truth concerning them.

I'm going to have to be talked into changing my mind about this. Thanks for trying you made some good points. Just one question: if a Marxist got elected into a capitalist system, would the Marxist take advantage of Crony Capitalism?


That's a virtually impossible scenario. Marxists cannot get elected in our current system because no one would give them any campaign money.


What if they lied? Covered up their past? (hint) Obama did lie, and Obama has covered up his past. shhh don't tell anyone though!


I don't believe Barack Obama is a very bright man, but I think he's probably smart enough to realize that he's not covering anything up by printing it in a book that sold 2 million copies.

Good places to hide secrets:
- on a piece of paper in a safe deposit box
- in a diary stored underneath one's mattress
- on encrypted USB drive secreted in the rectal cavity of a close friend

Bad places to hide secrets:
- chapter 1 of a New York Times bestseller
- the billboard on top of the Capitol Records Building overlooking the 101 freeway
- skywriting over Manhattan during Fleet Week


you left out his college records (the best place to hid something, since it's illegal to look!)


I'm not sure what your transcripts read like but - while I agree Obama is being extremely evasive regarding his college records and they probably would reveal things like poor grades, academic probation, a sub-standard or retard-level IQ - I don't believe it's structurally possible for a college transcript to contain a smoking gun about Marxism. By which I mean I have yet to see a university transcript that reads like this ...

    Name: Smith, John
    Major: History
    Cumulative GPA: 3.2
    Marxist: Yes
    Standing: Sophomore
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby Phatscotty on Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:47 pm

hahaha

Well, this conversation was probably over a long time ago. You guys pounded me deep and hard.

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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:09 pm

Phatscotty wrote:hahaha

Well, this conversation was probably over a long time ago. You guys marxed me deep and hard.

Thanx


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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby Nola_Lifer on Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:59 pm

GUYS GUYS! I found proof that Obama is a Marxist straight from the truth of the Tea Party!!!!!

http://www.classwarfareexists.com/christine-odonnell-calls-herself-a-policy-wonk-obama-a-marxist/#ixzz248O56px2
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:25 am

You gotta be marxing kidding me!?!


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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby Gillipig on Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:36 pm

Stop the presses! Big news coming up! Obama IS Marxist! Someone said so and therefore it must be true.
In other news, Aliens will invade earth within the next five years! Scienece fiction writer forsees the future in his new book.
AoG for President of the World!!
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:44 pm

Gillipig wrote:Stop the presses! Big news coming up! Obama IS Marxist! Someone said so and therefore it must be true.
In other news, Aliens will invade earth within the next five years! Scienece fiction writer forsees the future in his new book.


Reality is enough for most of us. No fantasies or science fiction movie special effects necessary
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby Nola_Lifer on Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:57 pm

Let say all Obama wants to do is take money for the wealthiest people. That would be the people at the top, the 1%ers. If he does do this and gives take breaks to lower and middle class people, wouldn't that mean more money for you, PS? I am assuming your not a kabillionaire. Wouldn't you want more money? I am saying this as someone who probably won't vote for Obama so don't but this "O your a liberal" bullshit on me.
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:10 pm

Nola_Lifer wrote:Let say all Obama wants to do is take money for the wealthiest people. That would be the people at the top, the 1%ers. If he does do this and gives take breaks to lower and middle class people, wouldn't that mean more money for you, PS? I am assuming your not a kabillionaire. Wouldn't you want more money? I am saying this as someone who probably won't vote for Obama so don't but this "O your a liberal" bullshit on me.


I'm going to change this a little (because I like the scenario).

Let's say all the president (Obama) wants to do is take money from the wealthiest people and give it to the less wealthy. Let's just stop with that. Why would anyone would any wealth support him for president? That is all.
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:23 pm

Nola_Lifer wrote:Let say all Obama wants to do is take money for the wealthiest people. That would be the people at the top, the 1%ers. If he does do this and gives take breaks to lower and middle class people, wouldn't that mean more money for you, PS? I am assuming your not a kabillionaire. Wouldn't you want more money? I am saying this as someone who probably won't vote for Obama so don't but this "O your a liberal" bullshit on me.


I want more of my own hard earned money. I don't want to "try to get" other people's earned money.

I vote for what is best for my country, not for me or my pocketbook. I'm not as greedy as you assume.
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby Night Strike on Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:55 pm

Nola_Lifer wrote:Let say all Obama wants to do is take money for the wealthiest people. That would be the people at the top, the 1%ers. If he does do this and gives take breaks to lower and middle class people, wouldn't that mean more money for you, PS? I am assuming your not a kabillionaire. Wouldn't you want more money? I am saying this as someone who probably won't vote for Obama so don't but this "O your a liberal" bullshit on me.


Because some people realize it's wrong to use the government to take money from someone else just so they can give some of it to you. For all the accusations of greed thrown at those who don't want higher taxes on "the rich", you have just precisely pointed out where the real greed in our society lies that the media never questions.
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:07 pm



It matters not to you how people suffer
And should they, you'd consider that a gain
You bring a lot of trouble to the town and then you leave
That's part of your Communistic game
I detect a little Communism
I can see it in the things ya do
Communism, Socialism call it what you like
There's very little difference in the two



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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby PLAYER57832 on Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:04 pm

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Nola_Lifer wrote:Let say all Obama wants to do is take money for the wealthiest people. That would be the people at the top, the 1%ers. If he does do this and gives take breaks to lower and middle class people, wouldn't that mean more money for you, PS? I am assuming your not a kabillionaire. Wouldn't you want more money? I am saying this as someone who probably won't vote for Obama so don't but this "O your a liberal" bullshit on me.


Because some people realize it's wrong to use the government to take money from someone else just so they can give some of it to you. For all the accusations of greed thrown at those who don't want higher taxes on "the rich", you have just precisely pointed out where the real greed in our society lies that the media never questions.


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Its not the middle class failing to pay their share that put us in debt, sorry.. it very much is the wealthy -- corporate discounts, bank bail outs.

The reason our government has had to expand so much is to protect people from the many abuses by corporations... Even so, they were not ENOUGH to prevent BP, Massey Energy, Madoff or many other debacles. THEY are why we need to increase taxes. And it is far more correct that the wealthy, who have money, pay those additional amounts than it is to cut school lunches, food for the elderly, healthcare for the poor and education funding.
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:11 pm

I never knew that the wealthy forced the politicians to implement Medicare and Medicaid.
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby Gillipig on Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:32 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:I never knew that the wealthy forced the politicians to implement Medicare and Medicaid.


Yes not many knows this. There's a lot of misconceptions around in the world. A lot of things that at first glance, appear simple. But chwhen you tink a little, it al becomes more complicated. You tsee, chwhen you use your mighty bräin, the word "wealthy" is relative, and can be applied to anyone who is whealthy in respect to another person. Even the poorest sods in the US are still richer than the average Somalis. So one might say (with a wicked perspective) that your irony was unfounded.

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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:38 pm

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Phatscotty wrote:I see what you are saying. I think he is Progressive and influenced by Marx because of what he stands for (what he says he stands for), ad based on his past, which included being directly tutored for years by Marxist Frank Marshall Davis, Jeremiah Wright, Reverand Wallace, his own words in his book "seeking out Marxist professors", the hand picked appointments of the straight up, self admitted Communists, admitted Maoists, admitted Marxists etc as Czars. I can only imagine what those Czars are doing, not like we will ever know much of the truth concerning them.

I'm going to have to be talked into changing my mind about this. Thanks for trying you made some good points. Just one question: if a Marxist got elected into a capitalist system, would the Marxist take advantage of Crony Capitalism?


That's a virtually impossible scenario. Marxists cannot get elected in our current system because no one would give them any campaign money.

Again, you're still focused on what he did in the past and not what he's done as president. If he is elected again, serves another four year term, and does nothing Marxist, would you then be willing to admit he's not a Marxist?


...unless they control the media and thus their image???????????????

What people do in the past is a key indicator of who they are today. Is that not what your parents taught you? Is that not what all parents try to teach their children? Is that not the very reason why we are supposed to "stay out of trouble" or "do the right thing"???
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:43 pm

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Nola_Lifer wrote:Let say all Obama wants to do is take money for the wealthiest people. That would be the people at the top, the 1%ers. If he does do this and gives take breaks to lower and middle class people, wouldn't that mean more money for you, PS? I am assuming your not a kabillionaire. Wouldn't you want more money? I am saying this as someone who probably won't vote for Obama so don't but this "O your a liberal" bullshit on me.


Because some people realize it's wrong to use the government to take money from someone else just so they can give some of it to you. For all the accusations of greed thrown at those who don't want higher taxes on "the rich", you have just precisely pointed out where the real greed in our society lies that the media never questions.


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Its not the middle class failing to pay their share that put us in debt, sorry..


Actually, it's Obama voters. A study out today shows that the average Obama voters median tax rate is 3%. The average Romney voters median tax rate is 17%
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Re: Is Obama a Marxist?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:50 pm

@gillipig

Haha, yeah... I was reading Sean Connery in your post, then I lost it after the 6th sentence.

It could've used more exclamation points, and some references to <crazy arm movements, fidgets in wheelchair> woulda helped... =P
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