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[Juan_Bottom]

Report: House GOP has voted 55 times to push anti-women policies

[john9blue]

you call them "anti-women" policies, i call them "pro-man" policies. doesn't my version sound better? enough with the negativity, juan.

[john9blue]

oh and by the way, ^THAT^ is trolling. what i said earlier is NOT trolling.

[Juan_Bottom]

GOP lies: Obama 'supporter' in TV commercial is a staffer for the GOP

[BigBallinStalin]

oh and by the way, ^THAT^ is trolling. what i said earlier is NOT trolling.

JB doesn't care. He's here to assert his opinions with a megaphone and pleasure in the negative reactions. You know, it's the Pimpdavian Virtues.

[Nobunaga]

GOP lies: Obama 'supporter' in TV commercial is a staffer for the GOP

... Juan, perhaps there might be some truth to these huge-font claims you are making, but linking to a site where the writer of the article doesn't refer to the Republicans so matter-of-factly as "radicals" might lend credence to your exclamations.

[Juan_Bottom]

Well I went back and read it and I didn't see the world radical used.
But I would and do use the word Radical. I should think that most normal people who follow politics do use that word, and you know that from Clinton's speech the other day he calls them Radical too. The element of the party that's in control right now are not traditional Conservatives, they're wingnuts.

[Juan_Bottom]

[Phatscotty]

Liberalism is the norm, the establishment. Conservatives are the activists and the rebels of our time

[Juan_Bottom]

I cannot believe that you just did that.



http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... t-20120816

[thegreekdog]

I cannot believe that you just did that.



http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... t-20120816

Oh look! It's the rich Harvard graduate lambasting the rich politician!

The entertainment industry's hypocrisy knows no bounds. If Zach de la Rocha and Tom Morello start giving their money freely to the government, I'll start listening to them.

[Phatscotty]

Liberalism is the norm, the establishment. Conservatives are the activists and the rebels of our time

This picture shows just how big a tent Republicans have. All are welcome. Bible Thumpers and Atlas Shruggers can come together, can look past their differences, even be tolerant of other people and their philosophies....



Not like haters would know this, but Conservatives have a wide range of differences, come in all shapes and flavors and beliefs, and even call out their own from time to time in the name of honesty. Liberals seek to think and become the same, goosestep in line whenever summoned, and never call their own out.

[Juan_Bottom]

^
lol
Dudes can't win on the issues, so they turn to "we're better than you" hate. Classic Conservative.


You have a presidential candidate who's filthy rich and hides his money. He's also a senior member of his church. And his choice for VP is Ayn Rand's protege. That's not a "big tent." That's the definition of hypocrisy.

[Phatscotty]

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You have a presidential candidate who's filthy rich and hides his money. He's also a senior member of his church. And his choice for VP is Ayn Rand's protege. That's not a "big tent." That's the definition of hypocrisy.

that is the definition of coming together despite differences. You might recognize it as "diversity". Only a truly bigoted mind such as your own would assume that they cannot work together because in your mind, they are "different" and must be separated, and if they work together, they are "Hypocrites".

[john9blue]

be gentle with juan... what you are saying goes against his programming.

[Juan_Bottom]

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You have a presidential candidate who's filthy rich and hides his money. He's also a senior member of his church. And his choice for VP is Ayn Rand's protege. That's not a "big tent." That's the definition of hypocrisy.

that is the definition of coming together despite differences. You might recognize it as "diversity". Only a truly bigoted mind such as your own would assume that they cannot work together because in your mind, they are "different" and must be separated, and if they work together, they are "Hypocrites".

They don't have different life philosophy's:
They have philosophy's that are in opposition to each other.
That's the point.

[Phatscotty]

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You have a presidential candidate who's filthy rich and hides his money. He's also a senior member of his church. And his choice for VP is Ayn Rand's protege. That's not a "big tent." That's the definition of hypocrisy.

that is the definition of coming together despite differences. You might recognize it as "diversity". Only a truly bigoted mind such as your own would assume that they cannot work together because in your mind, they are "different" and must be separated, and if they work together, they are "Hypocrites".

They don't have different life philosophy's:
They have philosophy's that are in opposition to each other.
That's the point.

It seems that your point is Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan do not have a bigoted bone in their body and are capable of compromise and reaching across aisles and working with anyone of any race, gender, religion, or creed.

[jimboston]

Did anyone figure out yet what the Republican Party represents?

I don't think either of the two big parties represent me!

[Juan_Bottom]

It seems that your point is Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan do not have a bigoted bone in their body and are capable of compromise and reaching across aisles and working with anyone of any race, gender, religion, or creed.

Ok, try it this way.

What parts of Ayn Rand's philosophy of Objectification, Selfishness, and Individualism are comparable with Christianity?

[john9blue]

juan, i have a hard time understanding how you can be so ardently opposed to both christianity and objectivism.

i think the reason is because both are associated with right-wing politics, and you have been taught that "right wing = bad"

do you realize the contradictions in your own views?

[Juan_Bottom]

juan, i have a hard time understanding how you can be so ardently opposed to both christianity and objectivism.

i think the reason is because both are associated with right-wing politics, and you have been taught that "right wing = bad"

It's illegal to teach liberalism or conservatism in public school. No one taught me politics. This thread has pretty much proven that the far-right is bad. Nobody can defend these politicians.


Both are associated with far Right-Wing politics, but that doesn't mean that they are compatible world views.
The word that I chose was Objectification, but I'll work with Objectivism - it means the pursuit of your own happiness based upon your own greed or selfishness. Ayn Rand, the new darling of the far right, taught this... and this is what Paul Ryan has based his trickle-down economic policy.
That's directly opposed to the teachings of Christ, who taught charity and forgiveness and to give away all worldly possessions. Then he sacrificed himself on a cross for everyone else - his own happiness didn't enter into it. At least, that's the view of Christianity.



SACRIFICE IS THE OPPOSITE OF OBJECTIVISM

do you realize the contradictions in your own views?

You're saying that Atheists can't care about other people? You must be new.
Amazing that you couldn't see the contradictions in the stated views of the Republican Party without big 'ol hypocritical me to help.

[Juan_Bottom]

What was the Republican Party.

[john9blue]

It's illegal to teach liberalism or conservatism in public school. No one taught me politics. This thread has pretty much proven that the far-right is bad. Nobody can defend these politicians.


Both are associated with far Right-Wing politics, but that doesn't mean that they are compatible world views.
The word that I chose was Objectification, but I'll work with Objectivism - it means the pursuit of your own happiness based upon your own greed or selfishness. Ayn Rand, the new darling of the far right, taught this... and this is what Paul Ryan has based his trickle-down economic policy.
That's directly opposed to the teachings of Christ, who taught charity and forgiveness and to give away all worldly possessions. Then he sacrificed himself on a cross for everyone else - his own happiness didn't enter into it. At least, that's the view of Christianity.



SACRIFICE IS THE OPPOSITE OF OBJECTIVISM

who said anything about public school?

You're saying that Atheists can't care about other people? You must be new.
Amazing that you couldn't see the contradictions in the stated views of the Republican Party without big 'ol hypocritical me to help.

i'm aware that many republicans are hypocritical pieces of shit. but, for you to attack two philosophies that are (as you claim) opposites is hypocritical as well.

[Juan_Bottom]

i'm aware that many republicans are hypocritical pieces of shit. but, for you to attack two philosophies that are (as you claim) opposites is hypocritical as well.

Why?
I've called myself a follower of Christ on this very forum. The phrase came from Dawkins, who got it from Thomas Jefferson, and Jefferson called religion 'organized shit.' The Philosophy of Jesus is just fine, it's the religion that repulses me, not the philosophy.
Charity is a very basic and hardwired human trait. Greed is as well, but evolutionary biology shows us that Charity is the stronger and better of the two.

[john9blue]

Why?
I've called myself a follower of Christ on this very forum. The phrase came from Dawkins, who got it from Thomas Jefferson, and Jefferson called religion 'organized shit.'

should i even bother asking for a source on this one?

he might link me to freethinkers.com or wearetoosmartandlogicalforreligion.com or some other garbage site that he visits