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Re: What is the Republican Party?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:46 pm

Great posts, JB! <pukes>

Median Voter Theorem
The median voter theorem seems to explain a few of the phenomena that occur in majoritarian voting systems. First, it may explain why politicians tend to adopt similar platforms and campaign rhetoric. In order to win the majority vote, politicians must tailor their platforms to the median voter.[2] For example, in the United States, the Democratic and Republican candidates typically move their campaign platforms towards the middle during general elections campaigns. Just as sellers in the private market try to win over their competitor’s customers by making slight changes to better their products, so, too, do politicians deviate only slightly from their opponent’s platform so as to gain votes.[2]

Second, the median voter theorem may explain why radical candidates or parties rarely get elected. If a politician is, for example, an extreme liberal on the very left end of the political spectrum, they will not capture nearly as many votes as the politician whose campaign platforms are more moderate. Finally, the theorem may explain why two major political parties tend to emerge in majoritarian voting systems (Duverger's law). Indeed, in the United States there are countless political parties, but only two major parties play a part in almost every major election: the Democratic and Republican parties. According to the median voter theorem third parties will rarely, if ever, win elections for same reason why extreme candidates do not tend to win. The major parties tend to co-opt the platforms of the minor parties in order to secure more votes.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_voter_theorem

(note the assumptions in the beginning of that link. A bit bold, but for mainstream economists, tractability matters more so than accuracy over all situations. To compensate, there's a weak version and a strong version. See: Explanations, first two paragraphs).
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Re: What is the Republican Party?

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:49 pm

Night Strike wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Night Strike wrote:Why did you laugh?


Because he essentially shot himself in the foot. Again.


Again....so? People who actually pay attention to Romney know that this has always been his plan. There's nothing new here. Obama always claims that Romney's plans will only end up in massive tax cuts to "the rich", yet he always ignores that Romney plans to cut deductions. Romney's simply pointing out the reality of the plan that Obama continues to distort.


It's called class warfare, and it's Obama's hallmarx
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Re: What is the Republican Party?

Postby Woodruff on Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:18 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Night Strike wrote:Why did you laugh?


Because he essentially shot himself in the foot. Again.


Again....so? People who actually pay attention to Romney know that this has always been his plan. There's nothing new here. Obama always claims that Romney's plans will only end up in massive tax cuts to "the rich", yet he always ignores that Romney plans to cut deductions. Romney's simply pointing out the reality of the plan that Obama continues to distort.


It's called class warfare, and it's Obama's hallmarx


You do realize that "class warfare" isn't the same as "not always getting your way", right?
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Re: What is the Republican Party?

Postby Woodruff on Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:29 pm

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Re: What is the Republican Party?

Postby Juan_Bottom on Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:36 pm

According to Sen. Patty Murray, an anonymous Senate Republican is blocking a cost of living increase for America’s disabled veterans.

A Republican senator is using an anonymous hold to block the traditionally bipartisan cost of living adjustment that is given to America’s disabled veterans and their survivors.
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Re: What is the Republican Party?

Postby Night Strike on Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:35 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:
According to Sen. Patty Murray, an anonymous Senate Republican is blocking a cost of living increase for America’s disabled veterans.

A Republican senator is using an anonymous hold to block the traditionally bipartisan cost of living adjustment that is given to America’s disabled veterans and their survivors.


While veterans are the only group that the federal government should be providing any sort of continual assistance to, this story just goes to show how everything the government does has become political. Why should cost of living adjustments from the government be automatic when the government has record debts and the private sector has had very little in raises over the past 4 years? No one can even ask these questions because it's all a political game about hating whichever group of people is affected.
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Re: What is the Republican Party?

Postby Juan_Bottom on Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:42 pm

Because the cost of living has gone up and these veterans were promised this when they enlisted the first time?
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Re: What is the Republican Party?

Postby Night Strike on Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:44 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:Because the cost of living has gone up and these veterans were promised this when they enlisted the first time?


Because the government continues to monetize the debt and institute inflation?
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Re: What is the Republican Party?

Postby Woodruff on Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:44 pm

Night Strike wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:
According to Sen. Patty Murray, an anonymous Senate Republican is blocking a cost of living increase for America’s disabled veterans.

A Republican senator is using an anonymous hold to block the traditionally bipartisan cost of living adjustment that is given to America’s disabled veterans and their survivors.


While veterans are the only group that the federal government should be providing any sort of continual assistance to, this story just goes to show how everything the government does has become political. Why should cost of living adjustments from the government be automatic when the government has record debts and the private sector has had very little in raises over the past 4 years? No one can even ask these questions because it's all a political game about hating whichever group of people is affected.


Why is it so difficult for you to just say "Senator Murray is wrong on this one"? I mean, you would clearly seem to believe that he is. Why must you reflexively support anything done by a Republican?
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Re: What is the Republican Party?

Postby Night Strike on Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:17 pm

Woodruff wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:
According to Sen. Patty Murray, an anonymous Senate Republican is blocking a cost of living increase for America’s disabled veterans.

A Republican senator is using an anonymous hold to block the traditionally bipartisan cost of living adjustment that is given to America’s disabled veterans and their survivors.


While veterans are the only group that the federal government should be providing any sort of continual assistance to, this story just goes to show how everything the government does has become political. Why should cost of living adjustments from the government be automatic when the government has record debts and the private sector has had very little in raises over the past 4 years? No one can even ask these questions because it's all a political game about hating whichever group of people is affected.


Why is it so difficult for you to just say "Senator Murray is wrong on this one"? I mean, you would clearly seem to believe that he is. Why must you reflexively support anything done by a Republican?


You must not even know who Senator Murray is considering you used "he".
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Re: What is the Republican Party?

Postby john9blue on Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:56 pm

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You must not even know who Senator Murray is considering you used "he".


so??

ignorance has never stopped woody before!
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Re: What is the Republican Party?

Postby Juan_Bottom on Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:12 am

Murry is the commenter, the Republican is anonymous.

But that's a deflection away from Woodsruff's point.
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Re: What is the Republican Party?

Postby Woodruff on Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:17 am

Night Strike wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:
According to Sen. Patty Murray, an anonymous Senate Republican is blocking a cost of living increase for America’s disabled veterans.

A Republican senator is using an anonymous hold to block the traditionally bipartisan cost of living adjustment that is given to America’s disabled veterans and their survivors.


While veterans are the only group that the federal government should be providing any sort of continual assistance to, this story just goes to show how everything the government does has become political. Why should cost of living adjustments from the government be automatic when the government has record debts and the private sector has had very little in raises over the past 4 years? No one can even ask these questions because it's all a political game about hating whichever group of people is affected.


Why is it so difficult for you to just say "Senator Murray is wrong on this one"? I mean, you would clearly seem to believe that he is. Why must you reflexively support anything done by a Republican?


You must not even know who Senator Murray is considering you used "he".


I don't. I also don't remember claiming that I did. Is it relevant? Were you going to answer the question, or try to distract from it?
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Re: What is the Republican Party?

Postby Woodruff on Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:18 am

john9blue wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
You must not even know who Senator Murray is considering you used "he".


so??

ignorance has never stopped woody before!


How is this relevant, Mr Moderate?
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Re: What is the Republican Party?

Postby john9blue on Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:43 am

Woodruff wrote:
john9blue wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
You must not even know who Senator Murray is considering you used "he".


so??

ignorance has never stopped woody before!


How is this relevant, Mr Moderate?


well, you have an awfully strong opinion for someone who doesn't even know what they're talking about.
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