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Should ya have to show ID when you vote?

Yes
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Kinda
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IDK
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No
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby kentington on Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:02 pm

AAFitz wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state. Essentially a poll tax.


Owning a gun is a right. In order to own a gun, you have to pay for both licensing yourself as well as registering each gun you own, therefore you're having to purchase your right to own a gun from the state. PLUS, you have to show a photo ID to do those things.


Eh...if you wrongly translate the constitution perhaps.


In which way are you suggesting his interpretation is wrong?

Also, ID's should be free.
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby AAFitz on Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:04 pm

kentington wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state. Essentially a poll tax.


Owning a gun is a right. In order to own a gun, you have to pay for both licensing yourself as well as registering each gun you own, therefore you're having to purchase your right to own a gun from the state. PLUS, you have to show a photo ID to do those things.


Eh...if you wrongly translate the constitution perhaps.


In which way are you suggesting his interpretation is wrong?

Also, ID's should be free.


Many.
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby Night Strike on Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:05 pm

AAFitz wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state. Essentially a poll tax.


Owning a gun is a right. In order to own a gun, you have to pay for both licensing yourself as well as registering each gun you own, therefore you're having to purchase your right to own a gun from the state. PLUS, you have to show a photo ID to do those things.


Eh...if you wrongly translate the constitution perhaps.


And the "correct" (aka, your) interpretation?
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby kentington on Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:06 pm

AAFitz wrote:
kentington wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state. Essentially a poll tax.


Owning a gun is a right. In order to own a gun, you have to pay for both licensing yourself as well as registering each gun you own, therefore you're having to purchase your right to own a gun from the state. PLUS, you have to show a photo ID to do those things.


Eh...if you wrongly translate the constitution perhaps.


In which way are you suggesting his interpretation is wrong?

Also, ID's should be free.


Many.


If you aren't willing to give an answer why make the claim?
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby AAFitz on Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:10 pm

kentington wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
kentington wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state. Essentially a poll tax.


Owning a gun is a right. In order to own a gun, you have to pay for both licensing yourself as well as registering each gun you own, therefore you're having to purchase your right to own a gun from the state. PLUS, you have to show a photo ID to do those things.


Eh...if you wrongly translate the constitution perhaps.


In which way are you suggesting his interpretation is wrong?

Also, ID's should be free.


Many.


If you aren't willing to give an answer why make the claim?


has nothing to do with being willing. And if supporting claims with evidence was a requirement in this forum, especially from that poster... :lol:
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby AAFitz on Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:11 pm

Night Strike wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state. Essentially a poll tax.


Owning a gun is a right. In order to own a gun, you have to pay for both licensing yourself as well as registering each gun you own, therefore you're having to purchase your right to own a gun from the state. PLUS, you have to show a photo ID to do those things.


Eh...if you wrongly translate the constitution perhaps.


And the "correct" (aka, your) interpretation?


Tell you what. Ill explain it to my wall. I know it has at least a chance of understanding and listening.
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby Night Strike on Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:12 pm

AAFitz wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state. Essentially a poll tax.


Owning a gun is a right. In order to own a gun, you have to pay for both licensing yourself as well as registering each gun you own, therefore you're having to purchase your right to own a gun from the state. PLUS, you have to show a photo ID to do those things.


Eh...if you wrongly translate the constitution perhaps.


And the "correct" (aka, your) interpretation?


Tell you what. Ill explain it to my wall. I know it has at least a chance of understanding and listening.


So, you don't have any other correct interpretation.
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby kentington on Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:12 pm

AAFitz wrote:
kentington wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
kentington wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
Night Strike wrote:Owning a gun is a right. In order to own a gun, you have to pay for both licensing yourself as well as registering each gun you own, therefore you're having to purchase your right to own a gun from the state. PLUS, you have to show a photo ID to do those things.


Eh...if you wrongly translate the constitution perhaps.


In which way are you suggesting his interpretation is wrong?

Also, ID's should be free.


Many.


If you aren't willing to give an answer why make the claim?


has nothing to do with being willing. And if supporting claims with evidence was a requirement in this forum, especially from that poster... :lol:


Not from that poster. From me. I am curious in which ways he is interpreting it wrongly.
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby AAFitz on Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:17 pm

Night Strike wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state. Essentially a poll tax.


Owning a gun is a right. In order to own a gun, you have to pay for both licensing yourself as well as registering each gun you own, therefore you're having to purchase your right to own a gun from the state. PLUS, you have to show a photo ID to do those things.


Eh...if you wrongly translate the constitution perhaps.


And the "correct" (aka, your) interpretation?


Tell you what. Ill explain it to my wall. I know it has at least a chance of understanding and listening.


So, you don't have any other correct interpretation.


You interpreted that incorrectly too.
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby AAFitz on Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:18 pm

kentington wrote:Not from that poster. From me. I am curious in which ways he is interpreting it wrongly.


I apologize for piquing your curiosity then.
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby isaiah40 on Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:19 pm

kentington wrote:I don't think it is necessary for a special voter id card. I do believe you should be required to show an id card to vote.
1)To prove you are a citizen
2)To prove you are alive
3)To prove you exist

If above three are proven then vote.

1) This I can agree on
2) If I show up at the polling booth, I am alive, so showing ID does not prove that I am alive. For all they know I could be a zombie.
3) See point 2.
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:50 pm

Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state.


If your argument is that you don't need ID because voting is a right, then the same goes for guns.....right?
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby Symmetry on Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:58 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state.


If your argument is that you don't need ID because voting is a right, then the same goes for guns.....right?


Not really, owning a gun as a right is a peculiarity of the US. I don't consider it a right. A right to own something ain't the same as a right to vote, in any case.

You shouldn't have to purchase your vote.
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby kentington on Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:03 pm

AAFitz wrote:
Tell you what. Ill explain it to my wall. I know it has at least a chance of understanding and listening.


AAFitz wrote:
kentington wrote:Not from that poster. From me. I am curious in which ways he is interpreting it wrongly.


I apologize for piquing your curiosity then.


Ok this has become very weird. Troll zone? How about contributing to the topic rather than popping in to just punch it to someone, Symmetry is able to do both sometimes. :)

Symmetry, it is a peculiarity to the US. But it is in the US constitution, maybe you believe it should be amended but it hasn't been yet. I am waiting to see what Fitz says. If he doesn't I will bring one of my thoughts up.
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:04 pm

Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state.


If your argument is that you don't need ID because voting is a right, then the same goes for guns.....right?


Not really, owning a gun as a right is a peculiarity of the US. I don't consider it a right. A right to own something ain't the same as a right to vote, in any case.

You shouldn't have to purchase your vote.


you don't. We are giving ID's away for free, so please stop with the lies.
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby Night Strike on Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:06 pm

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Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state.


If your argument is that you don't need ID because voting is a right, then the same goes for guns.....right?


Not really, owning a gun as a right is a peculiarity of the US. I don't consider it a right. A right to own something ain't the same as a right to vote, in any case.

You shouldn't have to purchase your vote.


Then why are you commenting on issues that have to do with US Constitutional rights? In the US, owning a gun is on an equal level as voting, speaking, following a religion, etc.
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:08 pm

It's good to know Symmetry that your principles only apply to the rights that you think are rights......

How convenient
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:09 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state.


If your argument is that you don't need ID because voting is a right, then the same goes for guns.....right?


Not really, owning a gun as a right is a peculiarity of the US. I don't consider it a right. A right to own something ain't the same as a right to vote, in any case.

You shouldn't have to purchase your vote.


you don't. We are giving ID's away for free, so please stop with the lies.


Who's giving away IDs for free?
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby kentington on Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:11 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state.


If your argument is that you don't need ID because voting is a right, then the same goes for guns.....right?


Not really, owning a gun as a right is a peculiarity of the US. I don't consider it a right. A right to own something ain't the same as a right to vote, in any case.

You shouldn't have to purchase your vote.


you don't. We are giving ID's away for free, so please stop with the lies.


Who's giving away IDs for free?


That's what I want to know. The guy near me charges 20 bucks each. And they are very questionable, my wife's had a mustache on her picture.
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby Night Strike on Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:12 pm

Phatscotty wrote:It's good to know Symmetry that your principles only apply to the rights that you think are rights......

How convenient


Which is exactly why we have a Constitution that is supposed to be adhered to at all times or until specifically amended: so people like Symmetry can't come along and arbitrarily remove rights from people.
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:20 pm

Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state.



In order for me to vote, I have to show my drivers license. Since I have to purchase a drivers license or any form of identification with a picture, then I am having to purchase my right to vote from the state--according to Symmetrian logic.

You shouldn't have to purchase your vote!


Does my post seem absurd?
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby Symmetry on Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:22 pm

Night Strike wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:It's good to know Symmetry that your principles only apply to the rights that you think are rights......

How convenient


Which is exactly why we have a Constitution that is supposed to be adhered to at all times or until specifically amended: so people like Symmetry can't come along and arbitrarily remove rights from people.


Or interpreted, of course, and let's face it the right to own a gun is an interpretation of one amendment in the US. Interestingly, back when the Black Panthers were using the 2nd amendment to argue for the right to own guns, the NRA was strongly against all Americans owning guns. Funny that.
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby Symmetry on Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:24 pm

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Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state.



In order for me to vote, I have to show my drivers license. Since I have to purchase a drivers license or any form of identification with a picture, then I am having to purchase my right to vote from the state--according to Symmetrian logic.

You shouldn't have to purchase your vote!


Does my post seem absurd?


Why should you have to purchase a license to vote?
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:25 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state.


If your argument is that you don't need ID because voting is a right, then the same goes for guns.....right?


Not really, owning a gun as a right is a peculiarity of the US. I don't consider it a right. A right to own something ain't the same as a right to vote, in any case.

You shouldn't have to purchase your vote.


you don't. We are giving ID's away for free, so please stop with the lies.


Who's giving away IDs for free?


We are, Minnesota

The question that will be on the ballot in November reads: “Shall the Minnesota Constitution be amended to require all voters to present valid photo identification to vote and to require the state to provide free identification to eligible voters, effective July 1, 2013?”
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Re: Showing ID to Vote

Postby Symmetry on Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:32 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Of course there is. Voting is a right. If you have to purchase an ID in order to vote, you're having to purchase your right to vote from the state.


If your argument is that you don't need ID because voting is a right, then the same goes for guns.....right?


Not really, owning a gun as a right is a peculiarity of the US. I don't consider it a right. A right to own something ain't the same as a right to vote, in any case.

You shouldn't have to purchase your vote.


you don't. We are giving ID's away for free, so please stop with the lies.


Who's giving away IDs for free?


We are, Minnesota

The question that will be on the ballot in November reads: “Shall the Minnesota Constitution be amended to require all voters to present valid photo identification to vote and to require the state to provide free identification to eligible voters, effective July 1, 2013?”


Kind of like Wisconsin? Didn't work out too well there.
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