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Is there any difference between Romney and Obama?

Yes
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Some
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Not much
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Romney and Obama: Is There Any Difference?

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:55 am

Been a lot of talk about how they are exactly the same vs. how they are extremely different.

Let's get to the bottom of it!
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Re: Romney and Obama: Is There Any Difference?

Postby rdsrds2120 on Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:23 pm

Phatscotty wrote:Been a lot of talk about how they are exactly the same vs. how they are extremely different.

Let's get to the Juan_Bottom of it!


What do you think, Scotty? I think they have their fair share of alikes and differences (middle).

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Re: Romney and Obama: Is There Any Difference?

Postby tzor on Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:51 pm

Romney and Obama are as different as the day is from the night; as the summer is from the winter; as an electron is from a positron. I mean they might seem alike; if you ignore the differences.

Now both will try to play the "poor me" card, but both Barry Sotero and Mitt Romney had well off fathers and that gave them both a good advantage. Obama, who basically fluffed off his high school year days and apparently (because his records are classified) got a pass through the elite schools of the rich and famous, took on the role of Community Organizer Politician while lining his pockets with the funds of corporate sleezebags and tennament landlords. Romney, on the other hand, took the corporate C.E.O. path and did the business thing.

Obama became president and basically said "I won you lost" and not only could not get the Republican's into the back of the bus, he could barely get his own party onboard with a clear solid double majority.

Romney became governor of one of the biggest Democratic Empires in the NE US and actally accomplished a thing or two.

So I would say that there is a big difference, but I would also ssay that when comparing Obama to most politicians, such as Clinton etc.
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Re: Romney and Obama: Is There Any Difference?

Postby Gillipig on Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:14 pm

Who's Romney?
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Re: Romney and Obama: Is There Any Difference?

Postby GreecePwns on Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:07 pm

If this is a response to me, I would like to add a rule to this thread: when discussion similarities/differences, please refer only to policy positions, not their life growing up, not what others have attached to them, but concrete positions they have spoken in favor of/against and their voting records.

I challenge those who take the position that they are "different" to list 10 major policy differences between the two men.

Thank you.
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Re: Romney and Obama: Is There Any Difference?

Postby Woodruff on Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:55 pm

GreecePwns wrote:If this is a response to me, I would like to add a rule to this thread: when discussion similarities/differences, please refer only to policy positions, not their life growing up, not what others have attached to them, but concrete positions they have spoken in favor of/against and their voting records.

I challenge those who take the position that they are "different" to list 10 major policy differences between the two men.

Thank you.


thegreekdog already challenged him for five, if I remember right, and he couldn't do that.
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Re: Romney and Obama: Is There Any Difference?

Postby thegreekdog on Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:05 pm

Woodruff wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:If this is a response to me, I would like to add a rule to this thread: when discussion similarities/differences, please refer only to policy positions, not their life growing up, not what others have attached to them, but concrete positions they have spoken in favor of/against and their voting records.

I challenge those who take the position that they are "different" to list 10 major policy differences between the two men.

Thank you.


thegreekdog already challenged him for five, if I remember right, and he couldn't do that.


Correct. So it's seems we've already gotten to the bottom of this issue.
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Re: Romney and Obama: Is There Any Difference?

Postby warmonger1981 on Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:13 pm

Romney will secure more power for large corporations and obama will secure more power for government. Either way we all lose.
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Re: Romney and Obama: Is There Any Difference?

Postby Frigidus on Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:12 pm

tzor wrote:Romney and Obama are as different as the day is from the night; as the summer is from the winter; as an electron is from a positron. I mean they might seem alike; if you ignore the differences.

Now both will try to play the "poor me" card, but both Barry Sotero and Mitt Romney had well off fathers and that gave them both a good advantage. Obama, who basically fluffed off his high school year days and apparently (because his records are classified) got a pass through the elite schools of the rich and famous, took on the role of Community Organizer Politician while lining his pockets with the funds of corporate sleezebags and tennament landlords. Romney, on the other hand, took the corporate C.E.O. path and did the business thing.

Obama became president and basically said "I won you lost" and not only could not get the Republican's into the back of the bus, he could barely get his own party onboard with a clear solid double majority.

Romney became governor of one of the biggest Democratic Empires in the NE US and actally accomplished a thing or two.

So I would say that there is a big difference, but I would also ssay that when comparing Obama to most politicians, such as Clinton etc.


Zero mention of either man's track record, just a bunch of irrelevant character fluff. Then again, that's been pretty much the entire campaign for both sides thus far.
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Re: Romney and Obama: Is There Any Difference?

Postby bedub1 on Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:36 am

As you can see from the below image, they have basically the same ideology.
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Re: Romney and Obama: Is There Any Difference?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:04 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:Romney will secure more power for corporations X, Y, and Z, and obama will secure more power for corporations A, B, and C. Corporations, X, Y, Z, A, B, and C have hedged their bets by donating to both politicians, but each tends to favor one politician otver the other. Either way we all lose by voting for a mainstream politician.



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Re: Romney and Obama: Is There Any Difference?

Postby Woodruff on Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:04 pm

[An extraterrestrial robot and spaceship has just landed on earth. The robot steps out of the spaceship...]

"I come in peace," it said, adding after a long moment of further grinding, "take me to your Lizard."

Ford Prefect, of course, had an explanation for this, as he sat with Arthur and watched the nonstop frenetic news reports on television, none of which had anything to say other than to record that the thing had done this amount of damage which was valued at that amount of billions of pounds and had killed this totally other number of people, and then say it again, because the robot was doing nothing more than standing there, swaying very slightly, and emitting short incomprehensible error messages.

"It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."

"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"

"No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like to straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."

"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."

"I did," said Ford. "It is."

"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"

"It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."

"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"

"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."

"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"

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Re: Romney and Obama: Is There Any Difference?

Postby warmonger1981 on Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:25 pm

Ftfy ??? What that mean?
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Re: Romney and Obama: Is There Any Difference?

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:30 pm

I've highlighted the differences below.

Obamacare
Romney - Supports (implemented as GovMass)
Obama - Supports (implemented as POTUS)

NAFTA
Romney - Supports
Obama - Supports

Auto Industry Gov-Managed Bankruptcy
Romney - Supported
Obama - Supported

PATRIOT Act
Romney - Supports
Obama - Supports

Inflation Indexing of Minimum Wage
Romney - Supports
Obama - Supports

War Against Libya
Romney - Supported
Obama - Supported

TARP
Romney - Supported
Obama - Supported

Muslim Brotherhood
Romney - Supports
Obama - Supports

Gold Standard
Romney - opposes
Obama - opposes

Military Service
Romney - None
Obama - None

Wealth
Romney - millionaire
Obama - millionaire

Alma Mater
Romney - Harvard
Obama - Harvard

Skin Tone
Romney - White
Obama - Half-White


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Re: Romney and Obama: Is There Any Difference?

Postby Woodruff on Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:00 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:Ftfy ??? What that mean?


It's directly quoted from an excellent book. And it's quite appropriate to the topic.
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