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Re: Stein vs Johnson vs Anderson vs Goode debate start in 45

Postby Woodruff on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:00 pm

You know, it occurs to me that Rocky Anderson should be running for President with Jill Stein as his VP. That'd be a strong ticket for me, I think.
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Re: Stein vs Johnson vs Anderson vs Goode debate start in 45

Postby Woodruff on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:02 pm

thegreekdog wrote:I've been "working" (in quotes because I've also been responding to Conquer Club innanity) so I didn't get to watch. I'm hoping there is a transcript I can read (like I did with the other debates).


The problem with the transcript, and something that I think you would particularly enjoy, is that you would miss Gary Johnson's...demeanor. It was excellent. And he was apparently feeling quite ill, which I didn't notice at all.
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Postby Woodruff on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:09 pm

I just saw a very interesting comment someone made. A perfect system would have Gary Johnson as President and Rocky Anderson as Governor of his state. That seems like a very nice place.
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Postby GreecePwns on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:24 pm

Johnson was passionate, Alexander was articulate, Stein was agreeable, and Goode was on the stage as well.
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Postby Woodruff on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:28 pm

GreecePwns wrote:Johnson was passionate, Alexander was articulate, Stein was agreeable, and Goode was on the stage as well.


This made me laugh. But in fairness, Goode was one honest sonuvagun.
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Postby Woodruff on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:17 pm

thegreekdog wrote:I've been "working" (in quotes because I've also been responding to Conquer Club innanity) so I didn't get to watch. I'm hoping there is a transcript I can read (like I did with the other debates).


Ask and ye shall receive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FEMi9-WZQqU

(I'd recommend skipping all the pre-debate bullshit.)
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Postby Ray Rider on Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:32 am

I skimmed through this the debate...I'll admit, I mostly stopped to listen whenever Gary Johnson was speaking. Rocky's presentation of himself and his beliefs was much better than Jill's imho; however they're both too left-wing for me mainly in terms of continuing unsustainable spending. My stance on issues is a cross between Gary Johnson and Virgil Goode, but Virgil quite obviously is not presidential material, so I'd support Gary. He is very passionate about his stand on issues and is able to clearly explain why drastic changes to the system must be made.
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Postby Bones2484 on Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:57 pm

This thread got me to read about Rocky Anderson and I am very impressed. Thank you for the heads up.
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Re: Stein vs Johnson vs Anderson vs Goode debate start in 45

Postby Woodruff on Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:18 pm

Bones2484 wrote:This thread got me to read about Rocky Anderson and I am very impressed. Thank you for the heads up.


AAAAADRIAAAAAAANNNNN!!!!!
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Postby MegaProphet on Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:12 pm

I've finally had a chance to watch the debate. It's refreshing to see candidates tell you where they stand without pandering to the voters esp. in Goode's case. I've got quite a bit of research to do on Anderson and Stein now
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Re: Stein vs Johnson vs Anderson vs Goode debate start in 45

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:36 pm

Votes are in ... the October 31 debate will be between Gary Johnson and Jill Stein.

http://freeandequal.org/updates/winners ... al-debate/
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Re: Stein vs Johnson vs Anderson vs Goode debate start in 45

Postby Woodruff on Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:41 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Votes are in ... the October 31 debate will be between Gary Johnson and Jill Stein.

http://freeandequal.org/updates/winners ... al-debate/


I'm quite surprised that Stein won over Anderson. Their views were essentially identical, but Rocky came across as far more polished and competent. Previous to that debate, I favored Stein (never heard of the Justice Party), but not now. Rocky is my man.

I knew Johnson would be there, and he should be. He won that debate, in my view, even though he's not my first choice.
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Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:45 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Votes are in ... the October 31 debate will be between Gary Johnson and Jill Stein.

http://freeandequal.org/updates/winners ... al-debate/


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RT is government-funded, so there may some gain for the Russian govt. by slightly aiding political fragmentation in the US. Nevertheless, if that is Russia's self-interest, it benefits the 3rd party candidates, and arguably for the US in the longer run.
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Re: Stein vs Johnson vs Anderson vs Goode debate start in 45

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:47 pm

Woodruff wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Votes are in ... the October 31 debate will be between Gary Johnson and Jill Stein.

http://freeandequal.org/updates/winners ... al-debate/


I'm quite surprised that Stein won over Anderson. Their views were essentially identical, but Rocky came across as far more polished and competent. Previous to that debate, I favored Stein (never heard of the Justice Party), but not now. Rocky is my man.

I knew Johnson would be there, and he should be. He won that debate, in my view, even though he's not my first choice.


I assume it may be that the Green Party has a more organized base and cadre that was able to get out the vote. The Justice Party may not be much more than a vehicle to put Rocky on the ballot -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Pa ... _States%29.
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Re: Stein vs Johnson vs Anderson vs Goode debate start in 45

Postby Woodruff on Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:33 am

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saxitoxin wrote:Votes are in ... the October 31 debate will be between Gary Johnson and Jill Stein.

http://freeandequal.org/updates/winners ... al-debate/


I'm quite surprised that Stein won over Anderson. Their views were essentially identical, but Rocky came across as far more polished and competent. Previous to that debate, I favored Stein (never heard of the Justice Party), but not now. Rocky is my man.

I knew Johnson would be there, and he should be. He won that debate, in my view, even though he's not my first choice.


I assume it may be that the Green Party has a more organized base and cadre that was able to get out the vote. The Justice Party may not be much more than a vehicle to put Rocky on the ballot -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Pa ... _States%29.


You're almost certainly right. He should join the Green Party (I'm not seeing anything that I think differs from the Green Party).
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Re: Stein vs Johnson vs Anderson vs Goode debate start in 45

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:06 am

If you missed the first one, Ralph Nader will be moderating another debate among the mathematically potential presidential candidates on November 4. Once again, Romney-Obama have declined to attend.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82918.html

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Re: Stein vs Johnson vs Anderson vs Goode debate start in 45

Postby spurgistan on Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:06 am

I wish I could have had the opportunity to vote for Upton Sinclair. Major mancrush (maybe not when he was old enough to be visited by Ralph Nader, who's also on the list)
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