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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby Funkyterrance on Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:51 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Earlier today Obama's Department of Justice issued a statement confirming Obama will use armed police to arrest and imprison anyone caught with pot in Colorado or Washington, regardless of what new state laws say.

The Department of Justice is reminding Americans that marijuana remains illegal — despite ballot measures passed by Washington and Colorado legalizing the substance for recreational use.

The conflict sets up a major clash between the federal government and the states. Obama expressed tepid support for leaving medical marijuana to the states during the 2008 campaign, but the federal raids have continued unabated on dispensaries across the country, and the DOJ never promised to back away from cracking down on recreational distribution of pot.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012 ... 48901.html




This just tells me that before you start lighting up in public you should probably do your homework lol.
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby Nola_Lifer on Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:39 am

Well we already had a war over this issue: state rights vs federal.
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:40 am

Nola_Lifer wrote:Well we already had a war over this issue: state rights vs federal.


Yup, those potheads are a force to be reckoned with.
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Postby 2dimes on Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:22 am

This is going to be tough on a lot of B.C. Potheads when they go to cross the border and start trying to declare their weed. Should make for some comedy though.
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby stoicbird on Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:18 am

Did the state politicians get arrested as it seems to me that they broke federal law and not the dispensary's.

I'd say legalize it for use in private. I wouldn't want kids seeing people walking around smoking weed in public. Obama could raise some taxes from weed too.Alcohol is far more mind altering than weed in heavy useage.
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby greenoaks on Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:37 am

Nobunaga wrote:This is what I don't get. Pot is (generally) illegal. For selling it one can do actual prison time. Smoking it - depends on where you live.

When was the last time you heard or read about somebody smoking a joint, then beating the shite out of their wife and kids?

Now how about alcohol?

It makes no sense.

i always thought the war on drugs was for 2 reasons.

Racism - Chinese workers enjoying opium. other races same deal.
Money - those drugs are not manufactured/sold by Americans

keeping certain drugs illegal protects prescription medication + parliament is generally made up of old white men who favour their drugs of choice - alcohol/tobacco
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby Nola_Lifer on Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:35 pm

The U.S. government has a patten on medical marijuana and actually sells it to Brazil. On a side note looks like the U.N. is stepping in. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/1 ... -treaties/
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:47 am

can't wait until the state becomes dependent on the tax revenues from pot. The money raised through taxation will most likely get linked to funding children's health or children's education, something that will guarantee little resistance to outrageous tax increases on the pot in the future.

"The tax is only getting raised on the pot heads. we don't give a shit about the stoners! raise the taxes!" Marijuana users will be repeatedly pitted against whatever cause the money funds, and the burnouts aren't going to get many sympathy votes from the legislature.

...and then they will really crack down on "unauthorized sales", because the state does not like competition. And then of course you will only be able to get it on certain days, during certain hours. Don't forget to factor in the cost of all the new regulation into the price of the product. The price stability you have known all your life will double in about 36 months,

Government legalization is the last thing you guys should want. What's the big problem with the way pot is treated now anyways? The price has went down, you can get the shit anywhere, there are no taxes.....sure, you can go to jail or get a ticket, but seriously, does anyone here know someone who is in jail for smoking a joint?

WTF????

The better answer, IMO, is to decriminalize marijuana. Get the government OUT of it. Basically, the exact same argument I have been making about marriage.
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby Baron Von PWN on Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:58 am

Phatscotty wrote:can't wait until the state becomes dependent on the tax revenues from pot. The money raised through taxation will most likely get linked to funding children's health or children's education, something that will guarantee little resistance to outrageous tax increases on the pot in the future.

"The tax is only getting raised on the pot heads. we don't give a shit about the stoners! raise the taxes!" Marijuana users will be repeatedly pitted against whatever cause the money funds, and the burnouts aren't going to get many sympathy votes from the legislature.

...and then they will really crack down on "unauthorized sales", because the state does not like competition. And then of course you will only be able to get it on certain days, during certain hours. Don't forget to factor in the cost of all the new regulation into the price of the product. The price stability you have known all your life will double in about 36 months,

Government legalization is the last thing you guys should want. What's the big problem with the way pot is treated now anyways? The price has went down, you can get the shit anywhere, there are no taxes.....sure, you can go to jail or get a ticket, but seriously, does anyone here know someone who is in jail for smoking a joint?

WTF????

The better answer, IMO, is to decriminalize marijuana. Get the government OUT of it. Basically, the exact same argument I have been making about marriage.


The problem with the current system is you can go to jail for it. The problem if you just decriminalize it, is you could still go to jail for producing it or police could fine you for possessing and then confiscate your pot. If the state did as you suggest they would. I see no reason why they would, you could have made the same arguments during alcohol prohibition, it would just go underground again.
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby _sabotage_ on Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:26 pm

I spent 5 years 9 months and 21 days in jail for marijuana and only marijuana, 9 ounces. The government informed my family that I was arrested with 250 kg of heroin. Maximum security, where I spent nearly 3 years, was half drug cases. General population was also half drug cases. We find a problem and then build walls and systems around it. The systems become self serving, ie it makes no sense to destroy your income source, drugs, since this would put you out of business. It's much better to increase the flow so you can increase arrests and make your department stronger. When Anslinger first pushed for criminalization of marijuana, he falsified all the evidence surrounding it and the only scientific research was ignored, they actual told the doctor that his study of 40k people was of no value in the decision. Anslinger later moved to the UN and had marijuana outlawed internationally, incorporating its illegality as a fixed condition to join the WTO and UN council.

We now have 1,800,000 drug arrests each year. This is taxpayers money being used to build a police state against their own people. It amuses me to hear the discourse on the drug war. If marijuana and other drugs were legal, half of the American justice, police, prison and legal systems would be redundant. Do you really think that the government is going to allow freedom of choice in exchange for half of its muscle? Do you think that the president who is surrounded by this consortium of people whose livelihoods depend on destroying families and doing the governments dirty work is going to help my former cell mates who have long given up hope?
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby Nola_Lifer on Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:33 am

_sabotage_ wrote:I spent 5 years 9 months and 21 days in jail for marijuana and only marijuana, 9 ounces. The government informed my family that I was arrested with 250 kg of heroin. Maximum security, where I spent nearly 3 years, was half drug cases. General population was also half drug cases. We find a problem and then build walls and systems around it. The systems become self serving, ie it makes no sense to destroy your income source, drugs, since this would put you out of business. It's much better to increase the flow so you can increase arrests and make your department stronger. When Anslinger first pushed for criminalization of marijuana, he falsified all the evidence surrounding it and the only scientific research was ignored, they actual told the doctor that his study of 40k people was of no value in the decision. Anslinger later moved to the UN and had marijuana outlawed internationally, incorporating its illegality as a fixed condition to join the WTO and UN council.

We now have 1,800,000 drug arrests each year. This is taxpayers money being used to build a police state against their own people. It amuses me to hear the discourse on the drug war. If marijuana and other drugs were legal, half of the American justice, police, prison and legal systems would be redundant. Do you really think that the government is going to allow freedom of choice in exchange for half of its muscle? Do you think that the president who is surrounded by this consortium of people whose livelihoods depend on destroying families and doing the governments dirty work is going to help my former cell mates who have long given up hope?


Damn that is fucked up man...One of the biggest lobbyist groups against legalization are the police. As you say, if drugs were legal they would have a job.

Phatscotty wrote:can't wait until the state becomes dependent on the tax revenues from pot. The money raised through taxation will most likely get linked to funding children's health or children's education, something that will guarantee little resistance to outrageous tax increases on the pot in the future.

"The tax is only getting raised on the pot heads. we don't give a shit about the stoners! raise the taxes!" Marijuana users will be repeatedly pitted against whatever cause the money funds, and the burnouts aren't going to get many sympathy votes from the legislature.

...and then they will really crack down on "unauthorized sales", because the state does not like competition. And then of course you will only be able to get it on certain days, during certain hours. Don't forget to factor in the cost of all the new regulation into the price of the product. The price stability you have known all your life will double in about 36 months,

Government legalization is the last thing you guys should want. What's the big problem with the way pot is treated now anyways? The price has went down, you can get the shit anywhere, there are no taxes.....sure, you can go to jail or get a ticket, but seriously, does anyone here know someone who is in jail for smoking a joint?

WTF????

The better answer, IMO, is to decriminalize marijuana. Get the government OUT of it. Basically, the exact same argument I have been making about marriage.


Do you have to post your ignorant comments in ever thread?
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby _sabotage_ on Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:26 pm

Nola; regarding why LEAP (Law Enforcement Against Prohibition) is against prohibition:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e33020.htm

Selected sound bites.

Plan Colombia was $5.2 billion we spent trying to train the Colombian police and spraying herbicides on the coca crop. At the end of five years of that program, the coca production went up 25 percent in Colombia.

Comment: seems like giving money to fight drugs increases flow.

NELSON: Well, you talk about it somewhat, but you have to be careful, because everyone wants to get promoted. That's the whole purpose of going in, to work your way up the chain, where you can have more influence on what's going on.

Comment: those who help build the system are rewarded.

As a young 22-year-old coming in from a rural community, going into the academy, you listen to what they tell you and you believe it. And so you buy into—at that time you were still buying into the residual of Harry Anslinger, who said that blacks and browns use marijuana and it makes them rape white women.

Comment: LOL.

And in those days, just possession of a tiny amount of marijuana was a felony. Well, a felony arrest was a big deal for a young police officer. And so you did your job. And in those days, especially in those days, quota systems were rampant. The measurement of good police work was not an absence of crime; it was what did your recap look like at the end of the day.

Comment: so the head of the cartel and a guy on the street both face felonies and provide the same quota points. I wonder which would be easier to arrest? As a young officer striving to hit quota, do you spend 3 years on a sting operation or just grab some guy smoking a joint in a poor area?

And so by the time I was a commander, it was about the same time that President Nixon announced the war on drugs, and it was also the same time that I had just uncovered at the divisional level the growth of two small gangs. They were called the Bloods and the Crips. And they had a membership of less than 100. Those two small gangs in the 40 years of this drug war have grown to 33,000 gangs across the nation with a membership of 1.5 million.

Comment: sounds like alcohol prohibition.

Two years ago, the DOJ said the cartels control drug trafficking with the help of the gangs in 250 American cities. This year the DOJ said the drug cartels control drug trafficking in 1,000 American cities.

Comment: we provide an economy for the most dangerous criminals in the world and then think we are safer than having some strung out people on the street? 90% of the danger of drugs is due simple bc they are illegal.

So we haven't made a dent in these three strategy approaches. Addiction, drug abuse, it goes up and down. The flow of drugs is now warehouses full. The guns are tens of thousands of war-level weapons. And the money, even being laundered by domestic banks, they get a slap on the hand, there's millions of dollars on pallets.

And cutting the head off the snake, I came to discover as a police executive who likes to do a good job and likes to meet his goals and effectively execute the strategy, that was a big thing to me, because I finally decided there's no snake, it's starfish. And when you cut a starfish in half, you get two starfish. When you cut it four ways, you get four. And the only way to kill a starfish is to remove its nutrient. And in the case of the cartels and the gangs, the nutrient is money.

They can't function without money. They can't buy guns, money can't be laundered, and they'll be out of business. And so prohibition creates their opportunity for money. And if we take that black market away, we're going to dry 'em up. And that's what I discovered as a police executive.

Comment: that's when he understood that to do his job best, he had to stop doing his job.

The issue is it's institutionalized. Prison unions fight us all the time. Police unions fight us because they don't want it legalized, because then they're going to lose membership. As he mentioned earlier, the police make a tremendous amount of money from the federal government, not counting—if the police arrest someone at night, a couple of kids for a few joints, they take them in and arrest them, put them in jail, they go back the next day for a hearing, they get three hours overtime a piece. It's a money-making machine for them. They don't want to quit it.

Comment: makes sense.

The military-industrial complex does not want it to end, because if you sell a Sikorsky helicopter to Colombia for $16 million, that's nothing. It's going to cost $100 million a year to put the maintenance contract in place to keep them flying.

Comment: the simple truth is without war and drug wars our economy would suffer. The money that the Fed prints, lends to Columbia to buy weapons we say they need, from us goes into the pockets of gun runners such as good old VP Dick's Halliburton. If Columbia defaults on the loan, we pay it back. The money we are paying back didn't exist, was created for the sole purpose of putting it in to the hands of our wealthy and used to attack our freedoms.

when you get arrested for a drug offense, I don't care if they don't put you in jail; you've got an arrest record. And when you go to get a job, you check the box, they see you've had an arrest, they look and you had a drug arrest, you're not going to get hired. You're going to be marginalized the rest of your life.

Comment: ok, ok, you discovered how self serving this post is, I'm just bitter that I was caught destroying my life and those around me yet not willing to accept the punishment: a lifetime of marginalization because of 250 grams of weed when I was 20.

Final comment which wasn't addressed directly in this interview: tough on crime. Every politician wants to be tough on crime. How de define that a politician is tough on crime? Increase in arrests.

Which of these is tough on crime?

A. I've put away 3000 more criminals than the guy before me.

B. I stopped arresting non violent offenders.

Fun Fact: last time I checked, the only people in eligible for student loans were convicted drug offenders.

A comparative truth would be Vietnam. As many have said that the drug war has failed, many also say that the Vietnam war was a failure. And many now say the war on terror is failing.

What if Vietnam were considered a success by some? What if the war on terror is considered a success by some? What if the war on drugs is considered a success by some? Who benefitted from these wars? Who did these wars threaten? Why do we not see that the same people are benefitting? Why do we not see that these people are threatened by any change in the status quo if its not their agenda?

What actually happens in these wars? Do you think that munitions companies close up shop after these wars? The only thing that will help their bottom lines is fear. Why are all these wars causing fear? Fear of a country succeeding on its own and being a positive blueprint for others to follow? Fear of the police in our neighborhoods? Fear of terrorists on our soil?

We demand our safety. Quid Pro Quo. How do you think I feel about being in prison for nearly six years? How do you think I felt being attacked 5 times by guys holding shanks? How do you think I feel when I can't get a job? Did you think you we're making me safer? Do you think you we're making society safer?

I'm not a violent person, except when it's my turn in a CC game. But I wonder if the sovereignty of our nation extends to me, or by making the choice to have a choice I have somehow given it up.
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:36 pm

Nola_Lifer wrote:
_sabotage_ wrote:I spent 5 years 9 months and 21 days in jail for marijuana and only marijuana, 9 ounces. The government informed my family that I was arrested with 250 kg of heroin. Maximum security, where I spent nearly 3 years, was half drug cases. General population was also half drug cases. We find a problem and then build walls and systems around it. The systems become self serving, ie it makes no sense to destroy your income source, drugs, since this would put you out of business. It's much better to increase the flow so you can increase arrests and make your department stronger. When Anslinger first pushed for criminalization of marijuana, he falsified all the evidence surrounding it and the only scientific research was ignored, they actual told the doctor that his study of 40k people was of no value in the decision. Anslinger later moved to the UN and had marijuana outlawed internationally, incorporating its illegality as a fixed condition to join the WTO and UN council.

We now have 1,800,000 drug arrests each year. This is taxpayers money being used to build a police state against their own people. It amuses me to hear the discourse on the drug war. If marijuana and other drugs were legal, half of the American justice, police, prison and legal systems would be redundant. Do you really think that the government is going to allow freedom of choice in exchange for half of its muscle? Do you think that the president who is surrounded by this consortium of people whose livelihoods depend on destroying families and doing the governments dirty work is going to help my former cell mates who have long given up hope?


Damn that is fucked up man...One of the biggest lobbyist groups against legalization are the police. As you say, if drugs were legal they would have a job.

Phatscotty wrote:can't wait until the state becomes dependent on the tax revenues from pot. The money raised through taxation will most likely get linked to funding children's health or children's education, something that will guarantee little resistance to outrageous tax increases on the pot in the future.

"The tax is only getting raised on the pot heads. we don't give a shit about the stoners! raise the taxes!" Marijuana users will be repeatedly pitted against whatever cause the money funds, and the burnouts aren't going to get many sympathy votes from the legislature.

...and then they will really crack down on "unauthorized sales", because the state does not like competition. And then of course you will only be able to get it on certain days, during certain hours. Don't forget to factor in the cost of all the new regulation into the price of the product. The price stability you have known all your life will double in about 36 months,

Government legalization is the last thing you guys should want. What's the big problem with the way pot is treated now anyways? The price has went down, you can get the shit anywhere, there are no taxes.....sure, you can go to jail or get a ticket, but seriously, does anyone here know someone who is in jail for smoking a joint?

WTF????

The better answer, IMO, is to decriminalize marijuana. Get the government OUT of it. Basically, the exact same argument I have been making about marriage.


Do you have to post your ignorant comments in ever thread?


What makes them ignorant? Some of it has already come to pass, so you may need to check your own premise if you wish to find ignorance...
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:17 am

Baron von PWN wrote:The problem if you just decriminalize it, is you could still go to jail for producing it or police could fine you for possessing and then confiscate your pot.


Could you elaborate on this? It doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't decriminalization make it just like any other consumable item? I don't think the fuzz can arrest you for eating a cheeseburger, why would they be able to arrest you and confiscate your pot just for smoking or possessing it if it's not contraband?

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