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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby MegaProphet on Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:41 pm

I'm not sure about Washington, but in Colorado medical marijuana patients can grow up to 6 plants this privilege will be extended to everyone. You will not need a license to grow for your own consumption. The current regulations for medical marijuana dispensaries are quite extensive. One regulation that stands out, to me, is you have to have been a Colorado resident for at least 2 years to start up a dispensary and you can't receive investments from out of state. The regulations for recreational marijuana have not been decided on yet, but they will likely be similar to those for medical marijuana. We will know more by July 1, 2013 as it's the date the regulations must be passed.
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby patches70 on Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:22 am

MegaProphet wrote: but in Colorado medical marijuana patients can grow up to 6 plants this privilege will be extended to everyone. You will not need a license to grow for your own consumption.


See, now that's how it should be.

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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby Funkyterrance on Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:45 am

MegaProphet wrote: but in Colorado medical marijuana patients can grow up to 6 plants this privilege will be extended to everyone. You will not need a license to grow for your own consumption.


This won't work, Nolalifer smokes 6 plants worth in one doobie. :lol:
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby Nola_Lifer on Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:08 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
MegaProphet wrote: but in Colorado medical marijuana patients can grow up to 6 plants this privilege will be extended to everyone. You will not need a license to grow for your own consumption.


This won't work, Nolalifer smokes 6 plants worth in one doobie. :lol:



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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby Funkyterrance on Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:14 pm

Nola_Lifer wrote:
:D :P A pound for breakfast


Part of Nola_Lifers complete breakfast:

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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:12 pm

MegaProphet wrote:I'm not sure about Washington, but in Colorado medical marijuana patients can grow up to 6 plants this privilege will be extended to everyone. You will not need a license to grow for your own consumption. The current regulations for medical marijuana dispensaries are quite extensive. One regulation that stands out, to me, is you have to have been a Colorado resident for at least 2 years to start up a dispensary and you can't receive investments from out of state. The regulations for recreational marijuana have not been decided on yet, but they will likely be similar to those for medical marijuana. We will know more by July 1, 2013 as it's the date the regulations must be passed.


You won't need a license.....yet

Thanks for the info
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:09 pm

Phatscotty wrote:can't wait until the state becomes dependent on the tax revenues from pot. The money raised through taxation will most likely get linked to funding children's health or children's education, something that will guarantee little resistance to outrageous tax increases on the pot in the future.

"The tax is only getting raised on the pot heads. we don't give a shit about the stoners! raise the taxes!" Marijuana users will be repeatedly pitted against whatever cause the money funds, and the burnouts aren't going to get many sympathy votes from the legislature.

...and then they will really crack down on "unauthorized sales", because the state does not like competition. And then of course you will only be able to get it on certain days, during certain hours. Don't forget to factor in the cost of all the new regulation into the price of the product. The price stability you have known all your life will double in about 36 months,

Government legalization is the last thing you guys should want. What's the big problem with the way pot is treated now anyways? The price has went down, you can get the shit anywhere, there are no taxes.....sure, you can go to jail or get a ticket, but seriously, does anyone here know someone who is in jail for smoking a joint?

WTF????

The better answer, IMO, is to decriminalize marijuana. Get the government OUT of it. Basically, the exact same argument I have been making about marriage.



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Though the hearing Friday dealt primarily with the DUI provisions, West's lawsuit also asserts that the initiative wrongly earmarks tax money raised by regulating marijuana for unrelated services such as primary health and dental care, and that state legislators improperly advocated its passage.


The new rules, which for most marijuana smokers would put them over the legal driving limit for a couple hours after taking two or three hits from a joint, took effect on Thursday.


But....now, finally, we can smoke pot! WOOHOO!!
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:33 pm

MegaProphet wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
crispybits wrote:Also, cigarettes aren't easy for people to grow in their basement or cupboard. Pot is. The existing black market will regulate the emerging white market in terms of price to start with and that effect wasnt present for cigarettes to the same extent (illegal smuggled ones from Mexico or wherever notwithstanding, there weren't growers in every town)


Forgive me I do not recall the proper terminology I am trying to describe, but it's the kind of market where it doesn't matter how much something cost to produce/distribute, it mostly matters how much you can get for it/how much people are willing to pay, or more specifically how much you need for it.

Think of a passport, or a drivers license. Does it really cost 135$/28$ to produce? Or even a Louis Vuitton bag...

Smoking/buying/growing marijuana, even after legalization, will be considered a privilege/luxury Prices can get pretty blurry in this area. If I can make a summary/comparison, the same thing that happened to the price of tobacco and cigarettes will happen to marijuana.

Why would marijuana be considered a luxury product? It isn't an established brand like Louis Vuitton and it doesn't require being authorized by the government like a passport or drivers license. I'm having difficulty finding examples of cigarette prices doubling or tripling. The most I can find is the fact that prices increased due to trusts early in the 20th century. Can you point me to your source?
Again I'm curious what you suggest to keep prices from rising? I think the possibility of going to jail is a much heftier price than any tax


Perhaps recreational is a better word than luxury, but the implication for the word luxury is that people who buy weed have "extra" money. Suppose recreational does also.

That's where the charging "what you can get for it/how much is needed" comes into my theory of why prices will be higher. Sure, they will be cheaper or the same in the beginning, but just you watch.

I predict by the third year there will be all kinds of "emergency" government funding shortfalls....
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:38 pm

Another thing I want to talk about on this topic: The slippery slope. People like to blow it off constantly with little to no thought, but weren't there a bunch of warnings (from opponents) at the time medical marijuana was passed, that it was just a slippery slope/stepping stone to recreational marijuana legalization?

Would be sweet if there was a medical marijuana thread here from years ago...
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby Funkyterrance on Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:41 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
But....now, finally, we can smoke pot! WOOHOO!!


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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby Phatscotty on Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:15 pm

Nola_Lifer wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:can't wait until the state becomes dependent on the tax revenues from pot. The money raised through taxation will most likely get linked to funding children's health or children's education, something that will guarantee little resistance to outrageous tax increases on the pot in the future.

"The tax is only getting raised on the pot heads. we don't give a shit about the stoners! raise the taxes!" Marijuana users will be repeatedly pitted against whatever cause the money funds, and the burnouts aren't going to get many sympathy votes from the legislature.

...and then they will really crack down on "unauthorized sales", because the state does not like competition. And then of course you will only be able to get it on certain days, during certain hours. Don't forget to factor in the cost of all the new regulation into the price of the product. The price stability you have known all your life will double in about 36 months,

Government legalization is the last thing you guys should want. What's the big problem with the way pot is treated now anyways? The price has went down, you can get the shit anywhere, there are no taxes.....sure, you can go to jail or get a ticket, but seriously, does anyone here know someone who is in jail for smoking a joint?

WTF????

The better answer, IMO, is to decriminalize marijuana. Get the government OUT of it.
Do you have to post your ignorant comments in ever thread?


I think this is about the third time we get to see who is ignorant. :D Hopefully one of these times you will finally ask yourself "why am I always so wrong, and why do I make such an ass of myself when I do it" Seriously, why did you call me ignorant? Those predictions were SPOT on. What is it about you that makes you ridicule things that turn out to be spot on? You might want to get that looked at.

Feast on this

Marijuana Vote in Colorado Weighs 25% Tax for Recreation

Just two months before Colorado retailers begin selling marijuana for the first time in the U.S., voters will weigh in today on a 25 percent tax to help fund enforcement efforts intended to forestall federal intervention.


.....A nonpartisan voter guide compiled by the state’s legislative council estimates the taxes will bring in $67 million per year. About $27.5 million of this would go to school construction and $6 million to local governments, leaving $33.5 million for state regulators.


The 25 percent tax burden will come on top of local levies and a 2.9 percent state sales tax. A dozen municipalities are asking residents to vote on additional taxes on retail marijuana sales. If voters approve them, levies on cannabis could climb to as high as 35 percent in some areas.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-0 ... ation.html

The price is already almost half way to being doubled, and sales haven't even started yet...

Get it through your head. EVERYTHING THE GOVERNMENT TOUCHES EXPLODES IN PRICE!
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Re: Colorado passes legalization of recreational pot,

Postby muy_thaiguy on Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:58 pm

And the State Patrolmen on all sides of Colorado are cracking down on people who try and come across the border with it.
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