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Should NASA turn Voyager I around and bring it back to Earth?

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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:45 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:Yeah, worms can't live in vacuum! Have you seen the way they squirm when you simply drop 'em in the water?

They're writhing in ecstasy because they know they will soon be part of Shai-Halud!
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:04 am

Dukasaur wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:Yeah, worms can't live in vacuum! Have you seen the way they squirm when you simply drop 'em in the water?

They're writhing in ecstasy because they know they will soon be part of Shai-Halud!


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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby x-raider on Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:08 am

Thanks Saxi, Just wanted to be %100* sure.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby spurgistan on Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:11 pm

Pretty sure the answer here is blow up the Sun.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Funkyterrance on Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:40 pm

tzor wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Should NASA turn it around and put the pedal to the metal to get it back to the Earth?


Short answer; they can't. It's already out of fuel. It's been using gravity assist to get it from point A to point B.

Second it's really old technology. By the way, the Mars rovers are also old technology. Cutting edge technology isn't used in deep space because you can't go there when it breaks down. So Voyager wasn't even "new" technology for its day. It's really really old.


So essentially the satellite is the dead car to our galactic front yard.

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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby karel on Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:31 pm

i say blow the stupid thing up,nasa is a waste of money
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Funkyterrance on Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:51 pm

karel wrote:nasa is a waste of money


Agreed.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:08 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
karel wrote:nasa is a waste of money


Agreed.


yeah, we need to spend more on killing each other. That's the important stuff. That and colourful confetti for our newest glorious leader who will surely solve all of our problems.

Even if nasa had not done one practically useful thing ever it would still be worth the money simply for what it symbolizes and for helping change the way we think about ourselves.

It has however done a shitload of practical things. first result on google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Funkyterrance on Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:18 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:
karel wrote:nasa is a waste of money


Agreed.


yeah, we need to spend more on killing each other. That's the important stuff. That and colourful confetti for our newest glorious leader who will surely solve all of our problems.

Even if nasa had not done one practically useful thing ever it would still be worth the money simply for what it symbolizes and for helping change the way we think about ourselves.

It has however done a shitload of practical things. first result on google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies


Just because I think NASA is a waste means I am Pro-military? How does that work? Those are the only two options eh?
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:35 am

Funkyterrance wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:
karel wrote:nasa is a waste of money


Agreed.


yeah, we need to spend more on killing each other. That's the important stuff. That and colourful confetti for our newest glorious leader who will surely solve all of our problems.

Even if nasa had not done one practically useful thing ever it would still be worth the money simply for what it symbolizes and for helping change the way we think about ourselves.

It has however done a shitload of practical things. first result on google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies


Just because I think NASA is a waste means I am Pro-military? How does that work? Those are the only two options eh?


It seems like one might want to first fix the gaping hole wasting tons of liters of water rather than the little crack wasting 500 grams.(which, turns out, aren't really wasted in the first place)
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Postby 2dimes on Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:11 am

I believe both shooting people and nuclear waste into space as well as killing babies lead to many innovations in civilian products.

People are not generally aware of how many civilian contractors are involved in making equipment for NASA. JPL has been making stuff for them for a pretty long time and I believe it's the main reason they won X Prize and are now making equipment for Ricky Branson.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby jonesthecurl on Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:10 am

I see that the petition is still 24,999 short of 25,000.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Funkyterrance on Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:30 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:
karel wrote:nasa is a waste of money


Agreed.


yeah, we need to spend more on killing each other. That's the important stuff. That and colourful confetti for our newest glorious leader who will surely solve all of our problems.

Even if nasa had not done one practically useful thing ever it would still be worth the money simply for what it symbolizes and for helping change the way we think about ourselves.

It has however done a shitload of practical things. first result on google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies


Just because I think NASA is a waste means I am Pro-military? How does that work? Those are the only two options eh?


It seems like one might want to first fix the gaping hole wasting tons of liters of water rather than the little crack wasting 500 grams.(which, turns out, aren't really wasted in the first place)


Wtf? The military is a completely different subject and doesn't affect the fact that NASA is a waste. The advances gained through NASA are paltry compared to the amount of money dumped into the program.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:32 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:Wtf? The military is a completely different subject and doesn't affect the fact that NASA is a waste. The advances gained through NASA are paltry compared to the amount of money dumped into the program.


Are they? For $18 billion dollars per year, what exactly do you expect out of them?
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Funkyterrance on Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:45 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:Wtf? The military is a completely different subject and doesn't affect the fact that NASA is a waste. The advances gained through NASA are paltry compared to the amount of money dumped into the program.


Are they? For $18 billion dollars per year, what exactly do you expect out of them?


Meaning advances that can be useful to purposes other than NASA, to clarify. If anyone argues cell phones I'm going to laugh, btw.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:49 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:Wtf? The military is a completely different subject and doesn't affect the fact that NASA is a waste. The advances gained through NASA are paltry compared to the amount of money dumped into the program.


Are they? For $18 billion dollars per year, what exactly do you expect out of them?


Meaning advances that can be useful to purposes other than NASA, to clarify. If anyone argues cell phones I'm going to laugh, btw.


So you don't have a problem with funding NASA, you have a problem with funding space science.

THIS is why we invest in science. This.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Funkyterrance on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:19 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:Wtf? The military is a completely different subject and doesn't affect the fact that NASA is a waste. The advances gained through NASA are paltry compared to the amount of money dumped into the program.


Are they? For $18 billion dollars per year, what exactly do you expect out of them?


Meaning advances that can be useful to purposes other than NASA, to clarify. If anyone argues cell phones I'm going to laugh, btw.


So you don't have a problem with funding NASA, you have a problem with funding space science.

THIS is why we invest in science. This.


Yeah, more or less. But I don't see why we have to fund the, for the most part, useless stuff along with the obviously beneficial.

NASA wrote: We will be at the forefront of exploration and science. We will develop and transfer to industry cutting-edge technologies in aeronautics and space to fulfill our national needs. We will establish a permanent human presence in space, expanding and sustaining human exploration, use, and development of space in our solar system and providing benefits in science, technology, and commerce that will contribute to a better life on the Earth for this and future generations. As we pursue our mission, we will enrich our Nation's society and economy. We will communicate widely the content, relevancy, and excitement of NASA's missions and discoveries to inspire and to increase understanding and the broad application of science and technology.


Half of this shit is rainbows and daydreams. Cut out the bs and get real.
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Postby 2dimes on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:23 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
Half of this shit is rainbows and daydreams. Cut out the bs and get real.

Now you've upset my unicorn.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:57 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:Half of this shit is rainbows and daydreams. Cut out the bs and get real.


If by BS you mean anything that doesn't have an immediate practical utility, then the BS is probably more important than the practical applications.

The BS is one of the few things in today's world that reminds us of what's important. It's one of the few things most people are aware of that reminds us of the real relevance of all the current hot issues. Every time the space program gives us a glimpse of earth as the speck of dust it is, we are reminded, at least on some level, that 50 years from now all the pressing issues of the day will be completely meaningless, that no one will give a shit what Obama said last week or which party won majority in the last elections.

The BS not only reminds us of the insignificance of all the things we hold so dear, it also gives us a glimpse of humanity's potential, with every new insight about the universe it makes us wonder what we, humans, might be able to achieve if we could work just a tiny bit harder at putting our petty issues behind us.

Culture doesn't form in void. If we teach our kids to only think about the next 10 years, then that's the culture we will have and we'll probably end up killing each other before long. Science keeps marching ever ahead, culture has to follow it if we have any hope of avoiding anihilation/dystopia. Investment in stuff like NASA is one of the best ways I know of encouraging cultural growth.

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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby WILLIAMS5232 on Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:24 am

sending voyager was a do or die thing at the time i think. just had a small window to send it where it would pass all the planets. next possible time was like a hundred years or maybe a thousand.... anyway. a long time.

so it was more of a recon mission. at least we now have a pretty good idea there's not an alien race on neptune plannning an invasion on earth. probably saved us a bunch of money in the long run. ( plasma defense rockets, death ray gun force fields, tractor beams...etc. ) now we can just look at faint wobbles from distant stars and guess that there are planets that may carry life 800 million times farther away than where voyager is right now. maybe when we become extinct earth will create it's own super race that can put voyager to use as a satellite on a distant galaxy.
the options are really endless if you consider anything is possible.

i will say though, i'm a bit freaked out that we sent so much information about us out with voyager. i would have never have pulled the trigger on that one.

it creeps me out just listening to this.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby Funkyterrance on Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:03 am

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:Half of this shit is rainbows and daydreams. Cut out the bs and get real.


If by BS you mean anything that doesn't have an immediate practical utility, then the BS is probably more important than the practical applications.

The BS is one of the few things in today's world that reminds us of what's important. It's one of the few things most people are aware of that reminds us of the real relevance of all the current hot issues. Every time the space program gives us a glimpse of earth as the speck of dust it is, we are reminded, at least on some level, that 50 years from now all the pressing issues of the day will be completely meaningless, that no one will give a shit what Obama said last week or which party won majority in the last elections.

The BS not only reminds us of the insignificance of all the things we hold so dear, it also gives us a glimpse of humanity's potential, with every new insight about the universe it makes us wonder what we, humans, might be able to achieve if we could work just a tiny bit harder at putting our petty issues behind us.

Culture doesn't form in void. If we teach our kids to only think about the next 10 years, then that's the culture we will have and we'll probably end up killing each other before long. Science keeps marching ever ahead, culture has to follow it if we have any hope of avoiding anihilation/dystopia. Investment in stuff like NASA is one of the best ways I know of encouraging cultural growth.


Ok, aside from what your teacher told you in the 4th grade, do you have any real defense for space exploration besides you think it's "neat"? Your above statement is a prime example of an extremely sheltered point of view. I don't mean to be overly harsh but this is the exact mentality that causes crises in terms of resources. Do you think the droves of people out there pleasure driving their cars are enriching the world with their personal "endeavors"? No, they are masturbating, just like NASA does with it's rockets. We know that the earth is a speck in the grand scheme of things, we don't need billions of dollars spent to remind us.
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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:39 am

Funkyterrance wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:Half of this shit is rainbows and daydreams. Cut out the bs and get real.


If by BS you mean anything that doesn't have an immediate practical utility, then the BS is probably more important than the practical applications.

The BS is one of the few things in today's world that reminds us of what's important. It's one of the few things most people are aware of that reminds us of the real relevance of all the current hot issues. Every time the space program gives us a glimpse of earth as the speck of dust it is, we are reminded, at least on some level, that 50 years from now all the pressing issues of the day will be completely meaningless, that no one will give a shit what Obama said last week or which party won majority in the last elections.

The BS not only reminds us of the insignificance of all the things we hold so dear, it also gives us a glimpse of humanity's potential, with every new insight about the universe it makes us wonder what we, humans, might be able to achieve if we could work just a tiny bit harder at putting our petty issues behind us.

Culture doesn't form in void. If we teach our kids to only think about the next 10 years, then that's the culture we will have and we'll probably end up killing each other before long. Science keeps marching ever ahead, culture has to follow it if we have any hope of avoiding anihilation/dystopia. Investment in stuff like NASA is one of the best ways I know of encouraging cultural growth.


Ok, aside from what your teacher told you in the 4th grade, do you have any real defense for space exploration besides you think it's "neat"? Your above statement is a prime example of an extremely sheltered point of view. I don't mean to be overly harsh but this is the exact mentality that causes crises in terms of resources. Do you think the droves of people out there pleasure driving their cars are enriching the world with their personal "endeavors"? No, they are masturbating, just like NASA does with it's rockets. We know that the earth is a speck in the grand scheme of things, we don't need billions of dollars spent to remind us.


Not really much of the entrepreneurial or imaginative type, are ya?

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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby x-raider on Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:30 pm

Words say stuff.
So does a video:

I actually found this animator by stalking victor sullivan.

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Re: Should NASA turn Voyager I back around?

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:42 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:Half of this shit is rainbows and daydreams. Cut out the bs and get real.


If by BS you mean anything that doesn't have an immediate practical utility, then the BS is probably more important than the practical applications.

The BS is one of the few things in today's world that reminds us of what's important. It's one of the few things most people are aware of that reminds us of the real relevance of all the current hot issues. Every time the space program gives us a glimpse of earth as the speck of dust it is, we are reminded, at least on some level, that 50 years from now all the pressing issues of the day will be completely meaningless, that no one will give a shit what Obama said last week or which party won majority in the last elections.

The BS not only reminds us of the insignificance of all the things we hold so dear, it also gives us a glimpse of humanity's potential, with every new insight about the universe it makes us wonder what we, humans, might be able to achieve if we could work just a tiny bit harder at putting our petty issues behind us.

Culture doesn't form in void. If we teach our kids to only think about the next 10 years, then that's the culture we will have and we'll probably end up killing each other before long. Science keeps marching ever ahead, culture has to follow it if we have any hope of avoiding anihilation/dystopia. Investment in stuff like NASA is one of the best ways I know of encouraging cultural growth.


Ok, aside from what your teacher told you in the 4th grade, do you have any real defense for space exploration besides you think it's "neat"? Your above statement is a prime example of an extremely sheltered point of view. I don't mean to be overly harsh but this is the exact mentality that causes crises in terms of resources. Do you think the droves of people out there pleasure driving their cars are enriching the world with their personal "endeavors"? No, they are masturbating, just like NASA does with it's rockets. We know that the earth is a speck in the grand scheme of things, we don't need billions of dollars spent to remind us.


Not really much of the entrepreneurial or imaginative type, are ya?

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Caveat - I have no problem with NASA or my tax dollars going to scientific exploration.

Someone who wants to defund NASA does not necessarily lack in entrepreneurial traits or imagination. NASA is a goverment agency, which seems to be more of the problem than what it actually does. For example, I would prefer not to give money to welfare recipients. Does this mean that I'm not charitable? Of course not. It means I don't want the government to do it.
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