Phatscotty wrote: Metsfanmax wrote: Phatscotty wrote: Metsfanmax wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Fascinating. Why do you think people generally rationally know that murder is wrong? Is that it, "just cuz it's wrong"?
I think murder is wrong, and I don't particularly care what the "first commandment" is. How do you explain me?
How do you know murder is wrong?
One can construct such a principle through Kant's categorical imperative, or any equivalent universalizing principle of ethics. Simply put, I would not want to be murdered, so I do not murder others. It is the golden rule.
What were Kant's ideas influenced by?
Kant was the one of the first, if not the first, to recognize that this idea is independent of moral system; for an ethical argument to truly say something of importance, it must be universalizable. The categorical imperative is based on the requirement that a moral system must have universal characteristics. Since Kant, many deontological and utilitarian philosophers alike have made this a requirement of their ethics.
This has nothing to do with any particular moral system. The difficult part of ethics is deciding which universal rules we want to follow, in particular. Fortunately, the rule that we don't murder adult humans is an easy one that nearly everyone agrees to, religious or not.
Incidentally, it's not particularly easy to make the argument that Kant was in any way a traditional Christian, so I wouldn't go that way if I were you.