I'm looking for a laptop

by **whitestazn88** on Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:22 am

hm... might snag that one actually, i'm looking for something in that range as well, but i'm thinking i'll go with windows 8, try to get a newer video card, and downgrade the ram and hdd, cuz you can upgrade those for cheap. and I'd prefer the 3rd gen i5 processor

by **nietzsche** on Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:58 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:hm... might snag that one actually, i'm looking for something in that range as well, but i'm thinking i'll go with windows 8, try to get a newer video card, and downgrade the ram and hdd, cuz you can upgrade those for cheap. and I'd prefer the 3rd gen i5 processor

The thing is I couldn't find another similar afterwards.

They have a list of the refurbished laps they have a the moment, you have to check it every day looking for bargains, and I got tired of it.

by **bedub1** on Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:09 pm

by **nietzsche** on Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:23 pm

bedub1 wrote:
nietzsche wrote:I'm thinking of buying a laptop, I need recommendations

What I'm looking for mostly is a decent system but this specs are a must:

full hd display 1080p 1920x1080 MATE
ssd drive more than 128gb desired
8gb ram
ivy bridge processor
a decent video card, enough to handle the linux's 3d stuff

any recommendations?

I could all that from a Sager, for about 1300 usd, but I know that looking you can get all that for 800usd if you know where to look.. specially dell outlet with coupons.

I would really appreaciate help in this!

PC laptop manufacturers are stupid, it's hard to find a high-res screen.
Most of them don't include SSD's. Don't let it limit your selection, you can always upgrade to one later. And you should. SSD's seem to double/triple how fast your computer feels.
8gb ram is easy
ivy bridge is easy
some laptops have add-on video cards for playing games. If you don't play games, the intel HD 4000 is probably fine.

exactly bedub1. I was reading somewhere that it isn't even that expensive to make the high resolution displays, it was a thing of the marketing. That they were expensive because they thought people didn't like those resolutions and they did less of them.

Since I tried my first SSD I knew I loved it, they are fast, quiet, and don't heat up at all. I hate feeling the heat in my wrists.

I want a nice video card for the 3d effects of linux.

by **bedub1** on Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:27 pm

by **nietzsche** on Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:49 pm

bedub1 wrote:Check out this graphics hierarchy chart. Do you think the 3d effects of linux could be handled by these cards:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gam ... 107-7.html

nvidia: 6800 Ultra, 7600 GT, 7800 GS, 8600 GS, 8600 GT (GDDR3), 9500 GT (DDR2)
Go (mobile): 7800 GTX, 7900 GTX

ati: X800 XT (& PE), X850 XT (& PE), X1650 XT, X1800 GTO, HD 2600 XT, HD 3650 (DDR3), HD 3670

Intel HD Graphics 4000

I'm not very knowledgeable about video cards, but the one I have in this machine is a nVidia Quadro 160m, running with propietary nvidia drivers on linux and it isn't great, I want better. I believe the Intel HD 4000 is a bit below the Quadro 160m.

I think something like the GT 650m would do.

by **bedub1** on Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:01 pm

by **nietzsche** on Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:04 pm

This is a review of the lap I might end up getting.

It's $1150 with a 128 GB Crucial SSD.

by **nietzsche** on Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:38 pm

What do you guys think of this one?

Sager NP130 -- 1250 dls

show

by **bedub1** on Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:47 pm

by **nietzsche** on Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:57 pm

bedub1 wrote:
nietzsche wrote:What do you guys think of this one?

Sager NP130 -- 1250 dls

show

Doesn't look too bad. You should wait until Friday though...might be able to get one for a steal.

I could lose the regular hard drive and have only a Crucial 128gb SATA III, that would cost me 65 dls less.. but I think the mSATA Crucial is better.

by **Symmetry** on Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:02 pm

Nietzsche, I was under the general impression that you were an IT specialist. Why are you looking for computer advice here?

by **nietzsche** on Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:13 pm

Symmetry wrote:Nietzsche, I was under the general impression that you were an IT specialist. Why are you looking for computer advice here?

I have a degree on Software Engineering, but do not work as one. I worked only 1 year on the field, as I was disappointed at the level of responsibilities compared to the pay. People doing easier jobs were doing the same or more money than I.

Computer hardware improves drastically every 6 months, it's impossible to keep up unless you are in the field, and even if you are in the field but you are not buying or working with the latest every day you need to read quite a bit before deciding.

I could do without asking here, there's a lot of reviews on technologies and complete systems on the web, and even on where to find the best prices, but I enjoy the talk here. It's like women talking about those shoes they want to buy.

by **Symmetry** on Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:17 pm

nietzsche wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Nietzsche, I was under the general impression that you were an IT specialist. Why are you looking for computer advice here?

I have a degree on Software Engineering, but do not work as one. I worked only 1 year on the field, as I was disappointed at the level of responsibilities compared to the pay. People doing easier jobs were doing the same or more money than I.

Computer hardware improves drastically every 6 months, it's impossible to keep up unless you are in the field, and even if you are in the field but you are not buying or working with the latest every day you need to read quite a bit before deciding.

I could do without asking here, there's a lot of reviews on technologies and complete systems on the web, and even on where to find the best prices, but I enjoy the talk here. It's like women talking about those shoes they want to buy.

Buy a mac.

by **nietzsche** on Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:27 pm

Symmetry wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Nietzsche, I was under the general impression that you were an IT specialist. Why are you looking for computer advice here?

I have a degree on Software Engineering, but do not work as one. I worked only 1 year on the field, as I was disappointed at the level of responsibilities compared to the pay. People doing easier jobs were doing the same or more money than I.

Computer hardware improves drastically every 6 months, it's impossible to keep up unless you are in the field, and even if you are in the field but you are not buying or working with the latest every day you need to read quite a bit before deciding.

I could do without asking here, there's a lot of reviews on technologies and complete systems on the web, and even on where to find the best prices, but I enjoy the talk here. It's like women talking about those shoes they want to buy.

Buy a mac.

I never said I was gay.

by **Symmetry** on Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:28 pm

nietzsche wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Nietzsche, I was under the general impression that you were an IT specialist. Why are you looking for computer advice here?

I have a degree on Software Engineering, but do not work as one. I worked only 1 year on the field, as I was disappointed at the level of responsibilities compared to the pay. People doing easier jobs were doing the same or more money than I.

Computer hardware improves drastically every 6 months, it's impossible to keep up unless you are in the field, and even if you are in the field but you are not buying or working with the latest every day you need to read quite a bit before deciding.

I could do without asking here, there's a lot of reviews on technologies and complete systems on the web, and even on where to find the best prices, but I enjoy the talk here. It's like women talking about those shoes they want to buy.

Buy a mac.

I never said I was gay.

It was implied.

by **nietzsche** on Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:31 pm

Symmetry wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Nietzsche, I was under the general impression that you were an IT specialist. Why are you looking for computer advice here?

I have a degree on Software Engineering, but do not work as one. I worked only 1 year on the field, as I was disappointed at the level of responsibilities compared to the pay. People doing easier jobs were doing the same or more money than I.

Computer hardware improves drastically every 6 months, it's impossible to keep up unless you are in the field, and even if you are in the field but you are not buying or working with the latest every day you need to read quite a bit before deciding.

I could do without asking here, there's a lot of reviews on technologies and complete systems on the web, and even on where to find the best prices, but I enjoy the talk here. It's like women talking about those shoes they want to buy.

Buy a mac.

I never said I was gay.

It was implied.

I'm not apologizing to you.

by **Symmetry** on Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:37 pm

nietzsche wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Nietzsche, I was under the general impression that you were an IT specialist. Why are you looking for computer advice here?

I have a degree on Software Engineering, but do not work as one. I worked only 1 year on the field, as I was disappointed at the level of responsibilities compared to the pay. People doing easier jobs were doing the same or more money than I.

Computer hardware improves drastically every 6 months, it's impossible to keep up unless you are in the field, and even if you are in the field but you are not buying or working with the latest every day you need to read quite a bit before deciding.

I could do without asking here, there's a lot of reviews on technologies and complete systems on the web, and even on where to find the best prices, but I enjoy the talk here. It's like women talking about those shoes they want to buy.

Buy a mac.

I never said I was gay.

It was implied.

I'm not apologizing to you.

Are you telling me that you'll never have to say you're sorry?

by **Army of GOD** on Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:22 pm

by **bedub1** on Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:31 am

by **bedub1** on Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:33 am

by **nietzsche** on Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:42 am

bedub1 wrote:FYI I've got a ProBook 6560b from work. It's got 8gb ram and a i7-2620M. The CPU scores a 7.2 in the WEI, and the RAM is a 7.5. I put an Intel 330 180gb SSD in, and it scores an 8.1. An SSD can make pretty much any computer between twice as fast, and 10 times as fast.

but mSATA or SATA III ? That's my doubt right now.

by **bedub1** on Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:36 pm

by **zimmah** on Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:55 pm

Dukasaur wrote:Laptops are obsolete. Get a tablet.

I have a laptop. Every time I want to use it, I have to take it out of its case, dig out the DC rectifier from under the seat, plug it in, plug the AC adapter into the DC rectifier (funny how in order to get 9V DC I first have to convert 12V DC to 120V AC and then convert it back almost to the form it started in) wait 10 minutes for the thing to boot up, plug in the cellular adapter, wait another 10 minutes for signal acquisition, and then finally I'm online.

People with tablets turn them on and they're online. I'm so fucking jealous.

I have both and i somewhat agree with your point, for quick notes and quickly looking up things (digital school books, internet, etc.) i usually just take my ipad because it's much quicker.

However, when i really need to work on more advanced documents like reports or excel sheets, than i prefer using my laptop for obvious reasons.

On an average day at school I use my laptop maybe for about 20 minutes a day (probably 3 or 4 days of the week i don't use it at all, but when i do i use it for an hour or 2). But i spent like at least 5 hours on ipad. In the train i never even bother taking my laptop out of it's case.

So i'd not say laptops are completely replaced by tablets, but tablets surely take over many of the tasks a laptop used to fulfill.