Woodrow Wilson: Responsible for Holocaust?

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Re: Woodrow Wilson: Responsible for Holocaust?

Postby HapSmo19 on Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:26 pm

I've said it before and no one cared and I'll say it again and no-one will care: FDR bankrolled the third reich with his gold confiscation executive order of 1933.
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Re: Woodrow Wilson: Responsible for Holocaust?

Postby Iliad on Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:26 am

DoomYoshi wrote:The more I read about the interwar period, the more lunatic it seems.

It seems the main idea was that every nationality needed its own nation. Except the nationalities are totally made up concepts, not backed by either history or genetics. I have often said I am half German and half Czech, but in reality, those aren't two seperate races. America should apologize for having a hand in this mess. No wonder the Euro is so shaky, the entire premise of the countries in Europe is based on bullshit.
Oh hello, someone's learnt that nationality is fluid and a social construct. Next lesson: so is race.

And what's this mess that you mention? The holocaust? The Euro? How'd did Wilson cause the Holocaust? Isn't the Holocaust itself a clear example of the great significance of national identity? If anything the hawk-like French who wanted punitive measures inserted into the Versailles treaty had a much greater indirect role in the Holocaust. But that's also a secondary responsibility, and obviously most of it lying with the actual Nazis. I know, controversial opinion, but I always I figured the Nazis were responsible for the holocaust.

Not like there's a single reasonable opinion in this thread. Exhibit A:
DoomYoshi wrote:I have always said that everything is invented in America. The sushi I eat, the movies we watch. Even cultural things. For example the kilt wasn't popularized until an American wrote about it. The very concept of national identity and the borders of europe was invented in America.

f*ck Woodrow Wilson. f*ck the Wilson Center. f*ck it all.

What? If you actually want to know about the roots of national identity I recommend Benedict Anderson. Spoiler: they predate America.

Phatscotty wrote:f*ck WOODROW WILSON! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Woodrow Wilson: Progressive hero.

Progressives should apologize, Teddy Roosevelt should apologize. America as a whole, well, I have to assume that there were even more Americans concerned about the progressive movement than there are now, so I don't think America should apologize. I'm sure there were plenty of Americans protesting Wilson and his extremely racist and progressive policies at the time, just the same as those who now loudly protest Obama. Plus, there were many more at the time who were pro-Liberty, but did not see or refused to believe Woodrow Wilson's Progressivism, or believed his promises, such as "the income tax rate will never exceed 3%! And only the richest of the rich will have to pay it!" That lasted about as long as the Obamacare promises are going to. Around 36 months.

Lies only need to be kept alive until the end of the politicians term. Then they go away, everyone hates them, but they crammed it up our asses nonetheless.

Progressives should apologise! Roosevelt should apologise! America should apologise! No wait, false alarm, America doesn't have to apologise! Everyone else apologise! Americans go to the halls for your Two-Minute Hate! Wilson BAD! Reagan GOOD! Grrrr.

I know Doom didn't fully explain his point that doesn't mean you can vomit up your irrelevant conservative talk show talking points here Scotty.
HapSmo19 wrote:I've said it before and no one cared and I'll say it again and no-one will care: FDR bankrolled the third reich with his gold confiscation executive order of 1933.

I've said it before and no-one cared, but I did not have sexual relations with the lizardpeople. Y'know the ones that did the moon landing. And 9/11.

This is a silly thread.
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Re: Woodrow Wilson: Responsible for Holocaust?

Postby Army of GOD on Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:33 am

I think we can all agree that the Wizard of Oz is a classic.
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Re: Woodrow Wilson: Responsible for Holocaust?

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:45 am

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Is this Yoshi trolling? if yes points for originality.

I was gonna say some stuff but liad's post was glorious and pretty much covered it.
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Re: Woodrow Wilson: Responsible for Holocaust?

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:00 pm

Not trolling. I refuse to recognize the US as a legitimate nation state until

a) Woodrow Wilson is struck from the history books, and has his presedency revoked.
b) This one has already been done.
c) The US recognizes the right of states to secede. I want Canada back now.
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Postby 2dimes on Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:35 pm

Canada is busy trying to pretend they are not a commonwealth country and they are just like Ameriker, check out our spinning rims. Eh.
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Re: Woodrow Wilson: Responsible for Holocaust?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:05 pm

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Anyone who puts themselves on the $100,000 bill, you know they are a gigantic asshole.
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Not sure who is the bigger asshole when compared to the other Progressive jack-ass that builds monuments to himself.
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Re: Woodrow Wilson: Responsible for Holocaust?

Postby oVo on Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:01 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:So americans are responsible for everything, but only if you claim everybody was american?
Bit of a tautology ain't it?

Sounds more like scatology, even though the majority of active participants in the European Theatre of WWII were of German ancestry.
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Re: Woodrow Wilson: Responsible for Holocaust?

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:57 pm

oVo wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:So americans are responsible for everything, but only if you claim everybody was american?
Bit of a tautology ain't it?

Sounds more like scatology, even though the majority of active participants in the European Theatre of WWII were of German ancestry.

Eisenhower was of German ancestry.

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Re: Woodrow Wilson: Responsible for Holocaust?

Postby jonesthecurl on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:16 pm

oVo wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:So americans are responsible for everything, but only if you claim everybody was american?
Bit of a tautology ain't it?

Sounds more like scatology, even though the majority of active participants in the European Theatre of WWII were of German ancestry.



Actually I think the correct term may be "Prattology".
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Re: Woodrow Wilson: Responsible for Holocaust?

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:18 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Not trolling. I refuse to recognize the US as a legitimate nation state until

a) Woodrow Wilson is struck from the history books, and has his presedency revoked.
b) This one has already been done.
c) The US recognizes the right of states to secede. I want Canada back now.


What was (b)... I ask, understanding that I may regret asking.
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Re: Woodrow Wilson: Responsible for Holocaust?

Postby jonesthecurl on Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:02 pm

It was turning everybody into an american.
Or possibly acknowledging the "classic" status of "The Wizard of Oz".
And remember what the poet said – “in booty there is loot, and in loot booty.” Or sump’n like that.
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Re: Woodrow Wilson: Responsible for Holocaust?

Postby MeDeFe on Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:05 am

jonesthecurl wrote:It was turning everybody into an american.
Or possibly acknowledging the "classic" status of "The Wizard of Oz".

A classic certainly, but it was not a good movie.


And people should start wearing outercoats with capes again.
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Re: Woodrow Wilson: Responsible for Holocaust?

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:33 am

thegreekdog wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Not trolling. I refuse to recognize the US as a legitimate nation state until

a) Woodrow Wilson is struck from the history books, and has his presedency revoked.
b) This one has already been done.
c) The US recognizes the right of states to secede. I want Canada back now.


What was (b)... I ask, understanding that I may regret asking.


Apologizing to the Jews for causing the holocaust. There is no other reason for America to take its pro-Zionist stance unless it truly feels guilty. I learned that one from Judge Judy, an American.
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Re: Woodrow Wilson: Responsible for Holocaust?

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:47 am

DoomYoshi wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Not trolling. I refuse to recognize the US as a legitimate nation state until

a) Woodrow Wilson is struck from the history books, and has his presedency revoked.
b) This one has already been done.
c) The US recognizes the right of states to secede. I want Canada back now.


What was (b)... I ask, understanding that I may regret asking.


Apologizing to the Jews for causing the holocaust. There is no other reason for America to take its pro-Zionist stance unless it truly feels guilty. I learned that one from Judge Judy, an American.


Just to make sure I'm clear - you think the US supports Israel because the country is apologizing for causing the Holocaust, and not because there is a significant Jewish lobby in the US?
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