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Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:38 pm

I am here to advise you on how to achieve financial security.

It seems that Americans tend to store their money in ammunition.
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Note that the overall rise in all 3 search terms is most likely due to more people searching. One trend is clear though. Whenever there is an election, people in the US seem to think they should put their wealth in securities. Instead of stocks or bonds though, they are choosing bullets. Certainly a sensible approach.

Let's see what the rest of the world is spending on Gold. Note that this data reflects consumer purchasing.

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Some comparisons between US and China:

In China, you can buy gold and silver at the bank. My teller looked at me oddly when I asked.
Bullion is available for purchase at Chinese post offices. I wonder how my local postman would respond if I asked for a tube of silver Eagles.
Mints are readily accessible to retail customers. Here, I can only order proof and commemorative products from the US Mint and am forced to go to an independent dealer.
A new product design is manufactured every year. This being the Year of the Dragon, many bullion products are emblazoned with dragons. You can still buy last year's rabbit, and next year it will be a snake. The US has two designs, the Eagle and Buffalo; the latter was introduced in 2006 and is available only in gold (if you see a silver Buffalo, it is a "Round" manufactured by a private mint, not the US Mint).


It appears that all reports indicate that the US is going to fail, and gold may be the only thing that can save individuals:

Morgan Stanley reports there is "no historical precedent" for an economy that exceeds a 250% debt-to-GDP ratio without experiencing some sort of financial crisis or high inflation. Total debt (public and private) in the US is 300%+ of GDP.
Detailed studies of government debt levels over the past 100 years show that debts have never been repaid (in original currency units) when they exceed 80% of GDP. US government debt is approaching 100% of GDP this year.
Peter Bernholz, a leading expert on hyperinflation, states emphatically that "hyperinflation is caused by government budget deficits." This year's US budget deficit will be about $1.3 trillion. It's expected to total $6 trillion during Obama's first four years in office.


I know you keep hearing that there is no inflation in the US, but the dollar buys less and less gold every month. I suggest you buy some now.

Remember:
Anyone who thinks they have any measure of financial security without owning any gold – especially in the post-2008 world – is either ignorant, naive, foolish, or all three.
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Re: Finances

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:39 pm

Can you also make a topic for Fiancés too?


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Re: Finances

Postby john9blue on Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:46 pm

i've been thinking about buying gold, but IIRC the price has dropped in the past month so i'm a bit skeptical.
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Re: Finances

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:06 am

john9blue wrote:i've been thinking about buying gold, but IIRC the price has dropped in the past month so i'm a bit skeptical.


Silver is better. Grab a couple silver dimes and quarters here n there off ebay.
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Re: Finances

Postby john9blue on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:17 am

i thought silver was more volatile?
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Re: Finances

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:24 am

john9blue wrote:i thought silver was more volatile?


they are both extremely volatile, usually on the upside! Silver is lagging on it's historic silver/gold ratio as well, it has a lot of catching up to do. Combine that with industrial usage of silver (basically all things electronic) as well as a scandal on the COMEX (commodities exchange) where they have been selling hundreds of millions more paper ounces than there are actual ounces in existence, and I guarantee silver will outperform gold.

Another way to look at it, gold needs to go from 1700 to 3400 to double your money. Silver only needs to go from 33 to 66. It's all about the %.

Gold might go up, a lot. Gold also has a history of crashing/correcting faster and harder than anything else. Just realize Gold as right around a historic all time high....not really the best time to buy. Silver is still about 40% below it's all time high, hence the ratio lag.
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Re: Finances

Postby ManBungalow on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:13 am

Invest in the pornography industry.

Really.
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Re: Finances

Postby Timminz on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:49 am

Porn, gambling, tobacco, alcohol, and Canadian banks. That's where my investing strategy has paid off lately.

The banks aren't providing a huge gain lately, but they are some of the safer bets around.
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Re: Finances

Postby Baron Von PWN on Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:44 am

or maybe the gold price has been inflated by people buying as much of it as they can get their hands on? That may explain the rise in the cost of gold.
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Re: Finances

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:45 am

Who cares we're all gonna die
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Re: Finances

Postby notyou2 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:50 am

I'm getting all my teeth capped in gold.
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Re: Finances

Postby jonesthecurl on Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:18 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:Who cares we're all gonna die


Well,then, 1-2-3, what are we fightin' for?
And remember what the poet said – “in booty there is loot, and in loot booty.” Or sump’n like that.
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Re: Finances

Postby Timminz on Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:19 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:Who cares we're all gonna die


Well,then, 1-2-3, what are we fightin' for?


Don't ask me, 'cause I don't give a damn.
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Re: Finances

Postby jonesthecurl on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:46 pm

Timminz wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:Who cares we're all gonna die


Well,then, 1-2-3, what are we fightin' for?


Don't ask me, 'cause I don't give a damn.


be the first one on your block to have your son brought home in a box.
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Re: Finances

Postby / on Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:02 pm

Get the best of both worlds, silver bullets are sure to save you from the upcoming financial and werewolf apocalypses.
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Re: Finances

Postby notyou2 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:40 pm

/ wrote:Get the best of both worlds, silver bullets are sure to save you from the upcoming financial and werewolf apocalypses.




Oooohhhh
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Postby Phatscotty on Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:52 pm

Baron Von PWN wrote:or maybe the gold price has been inflated by people buying as much of it as they can get their hands on? That may explain the rise in the cost of gold.


more likely, the paper currencies are being devalued.

Evidenced by not just gold going up, but virtually every single commodity in existence.
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Re: Finances

Postby notyou2 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:56 pm

Invest in condoms. There are too many people and condom use is going to skyrocket.
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Re: Finances

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:59 pm

/ wrote:Get the best of both worlds, silver bullets are sure to save you from the upcoming financial and werewolf apocalypses.


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Re: Finances

Postby warmonger1981 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:10 pm

Remember central banks still hold gold on reserves as people still cosider it money. Silver is more of an industrial use and has no real monetary value. Even though we are close to all time highes I dont think the numbers havnt been adjusted for inflation. Please correct me if im wrong. Anyone know what happens to the price of gold and silver if the financial cliff is not resolved.??
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Postby Dukasaur on Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:27 pm

What happened to renting sex slaves? Has somebody been editting this thread?
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Postby Phatscotty on Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:05 am

warmonger1981 wrote:Remember central banks still hold gold on reserves as people still cosider it money. Silver is more of an industrial use and has no real monetary value. Even though we are close to all time highes I dont think the numbers havnt been adjusted for inflation. Please correct me if im wrong. Anyone know what happens to the price of gold and silver if the financial cliff is not resolved.??


I am willing to speculate with you, if you can first identify what (speculatively) it means if the fiscal cliff is not resolved.
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Postby warmonger1981 on Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:49 am

As I understand it taxes will go up, a deflationary period will follow and gold will plummet. Silver will probably fall as businesses will contract. That's my assumption.
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Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:14 pm

Dukasaur wrote:What happened to renting sex slaves? Has somebody been editting this thread?


DIfferent thread.
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Re: Finances

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:15 pm

Dukasaur wrote:What happened to renting sex slaves? Has somebody been editting this thread?


DIfferent thread.

However, I know what you were looking for:

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