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by **Symmetry** on Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:20 pm

As should be obvious by now, I'm an atheist. Most Christian folk on the fora will know that I like Christianity, but don't think it's above criticism.

This thread, however, is about Christmas- a pagan festival awkwardly co-opted by some branches of Christianity, and rejected by others,

It's kind of awesome.

For me, it's all about food recently. Specifically getting people together to share a meal. That ain't the Christian part, of course, which focuses on gift giving (the Magi) or celebration, or even the ritualisation of a year from birth in darkness.

It does accommodate hospitality though. That's one of my most important virtues. Being a good host. Christmas is tough because you really have to be the best host, and the best guest you can be.

Many religions stress this, and fail throughout the year. I think this is a message that is without religion. It's unfortunate that Christians stress this only in this time, but it's a good message nonetheless.

An atheist Christmas.

by **Symmetry** on Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:24 pm

Or maybe:

by **2dimes** on Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:58 pm

I never saw any Lars Ulrich solo stuff before.

by **Symmetry** on Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:02 pm

2dimes wrote:I never saw any Lars Ulrich solo stuff before.

He changed his name and now refers to his piano as the "Hetfield".

It's a bit confusing, but he they do Christmas music about Australia now.

by **Viceroy63** on Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:49 pm

Symmetry wrote:Or maybe:

Obviously this guy is having a really bad hair day. LOL.

But what is really terrible is not the song but the fact that no one told him that his hair looks all frizzy and unmanageable. Perhaps a different brand of conditioner would do the trick.
:lol:

by **Symmetry** on Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:36 pm

Viceroy63 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Or maybe:

Obviously this guy is having a really bad hair day. LOL.

But what is really terrible is not the song but the fact that no one told him that his hair looks all frizzy and unmanageable. Perhaps a different brand of conditioner would do the trick.

That's his standard doo. Minchin is all kinds of awesome. Well worth a google of his other stuff.

by **Viceroy63** on Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:07 pm

You are right of course. I personally never heard of this guy before now. So you have introduced me to some one new.

I'll Google search him tomorrow. For sure. I'm off to bed now. =)

by **Army of GOD** on Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:15 pm

I fucking hate non-Christians that complain about the "Christ" part of Christmas and want to change it to "Xmas". Get the f*ck over it.

Same with the people who want to take "in God we trust" off of currency. And I'm a fucking atheist too.

by **saxitoxin** on Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:24 pm

Army of GOD wrote:And I'm a fucking atheist too.

lol right, you're a virgin atheist

by **Symmetry** on Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:31 pm

Army of GOD wrote:I'm a fucking atheist.

Yes, AoG, you're a fucking atheist. Well done, and you've totally convinced all non-fucking atheists that you're having sex. Credulous atheists salute you.

Keep at it AoG. Anonymous sex is the reason for the season.

by **chang50** on Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:57 pm

Army of GOD wrote:I fucking hate non-Christians that complain about the "Christ" part of Christmas and want to change it to "Xmas". Get the f*ck over it.

Same with the people who want to take "in God we trust" off of currency. And I'm a fucking atheist too.

You do realise that the X in Xmas is the Greek letter 'chi',which begins the word Christ,so there is nothing remotely secular or even non-Christian in its usage,they are thus interchangeable and equally Christian.

by **Symmetry** on Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:58 am

chang50 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:I fucking hate non-Christians that complain about the "Christ" part of Christmas and want to change it to "Xmas". Get the f*ck over it.

Same with the people who want to take "in God we trust" off of currency. And I'm a fucking atheist too.

You do realise that the X in Xmas is the Greek letter 'chi',which begins the word Christ,so there is nothing remotely secular or even non-Christian in its usage,they are thus interchangeable and equally Christian.

It's also key to why the fish symbol is used in Christianity, good call Xang. I wouldn't go so far as to say there's nothing secular or non-Christian- kind of the point originally was to use non-Christian signs to encode Christian messages, but your point still stands.

Bringing this back on topic, Christianity has a long history of co-opting pagan symbolism, often weakly acknowledged.

by **jonesthecurl** on Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:00 am

Symmetry wrote:
chang50 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:I fucking hate non-Christians that complain about the "Christ" part of Christmas and want to change it to "Xmas". Get the f*ck over it.

Same with the people who want to take "in God we trust" off of currency. And I'm a fucking atheist too.

You do realise that the X in Xmas is the Greek letter 'chi',which begins the word Christ,so there is nothing remotely secular or even non-Christian in its usage,they are thus interchangeable and equally Christian.

It's also key to why the fish symbol is used in Christianity, good call Xang.

I thought that was because he was a piece of Cod, I mean God.