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While there is certainly proof that mutations do occur in nature; There is absolutely no real evidence to support the theory of evolution at this time (for over the past 150 years of "Dino-digging"). Including the sedimentary column.
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There probably is evidence to support this theory, yet scientist are at a loss to explain it appropriately.
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Scientist are great at making shit up when they have no evidence to prove something that is false to begin with.
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I believe in Santa. He's a real person that lives all the way deep at the north pole and brings me presents every year. The presents prove that he's real. I also leave him milk and cookies to snack on and while I don't ever see him, I just know with all my heart, that he is the one who eats all the cookies and milk. Or, I wish I had a dogasaur like Dino.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby Viceroy63 on Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:45 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:
Viceroy63 wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:Actually, there can be no order if not first for chaos. Just like you can have imperfection and then reach perfection through improvement. Nothing else makes sense, really. How would you know what order is if you have never seen chaos? That's like saying that something is light before you ever saw the darkness. How would you know? The word order itself indicates a prior chaotic state.


How can that be so? If God was sitting on everything (including Himself cuz he's God), and if this brings order, then chaos need not be prior. The beginning of the universe was a new type of order--not from chaos, but from an orderly arrangement on which God was sitting.


Stalin; You are missing the point. There was nothing for God to sit on in the first place. No universe, nothing. Only God existed. Time and Space and Matter were all created things. Things which He created and from nothing brought into existence, the universe. Even Science agrees to that.

So there was no Chaos or Order. God therefore being perfect creates all things perfect while the imperfect false gods which imperfect men create, create imperfectly. That is how "Chaos" is created first into existence from a false god.

That is also why the theory of evolution is a false and imperfect assumption, because it is created by fallible and imperfect beings like the false God that they create as well.


Here we go again. Reference please, especially for the Science with a capital "S".



A response. viceroy? or your third la-la-la I can't hear you?

(I'm not counting anyone else's challenges at this point, or a number of others of mine which you honestly might have missed in the general flak that comes in your direction).

But your continual appeals to unimpeachable authority which you can't then back up are beginning to be tiresome.


You are so funny with your, "la-la-la I can't hear you?" Please don't think that I am trying to ignore anyone but you obviously don't seem to understand that If I am ask one or two questions at a time then I can actually answer one or two questions at a time. But if I am overwhelmed with questions and comments and most of it hateful, insulting and arrogant, Then I have to ignore them and you, and stay on track with the thread, which is that evolution is a lie. And the evidence is posted for all to see. Any one who reads the Original Post will see the evidence posted, that is.

If asked a question, then I will answer one question but if asked 100 stupid questions then I may answer one (or two of the) stupid questions but I will ignore the other 99 stupid questions. I am after all just ONE man who can see the truth and I am not going to get angry with those who disagree with me because they can't see the truth. But I certainly do understand human nature and why people get upset with me for speaking the truth. It's only human! But I am better than that and so I refuse to be upset with them even if they are upset with me. But if you want to think that I am going, "la-la-la I can't hear you?" then that's your problem and hopefully one day you'll grow up and out of that childish mentality.

As to the statement that "Even science agrees with It!" That has been shown for the past 40 or 50 years now that the universe had a beginning and science and astronomy has confirmed this logically. That you don't know this, is only a reflection of how much you don't know. And that's OK too because everyone does not have to know all things all the time. I just do happen to know what I am talking about when I say that "Science agrees to that." The universe did have a beginning and in fact came from nothing. Science agrees to that and the greatest science text book ever written, The Holy Bible, teaches this 2,000 years ago, before any modern day scientist ever realized the truth.

"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."
-Hebrews 11:3

But if you can't take the Bible's word for that then how about an actual human being who has a degree from some university?



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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby Metsfanmax on Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:50 pm

Viceroy63 wrote:As to the statement that "Even science agrees with It!" That has been shown for the past 40 or 50 years now that the universe had a beginning and science and astronomy has confirmed this logically. That you don't know this, is only a reflection of how much you don't know. And that's OK too because everyone does not have to know all things all the time. I just do happen to know what I am talking about when I say that "Science agrees to that." The universe did have a beginning and in fact came from nothing. Science agrees to that and the greatest science text book ever written, The Holy Bible, teaches this 2,000 years ago, before any modern day scientist ever realized the truth.


To clarify, astronomy does not directly claim that the universe 'had a beginning'. What current cosmological theory claims is that that there was once a very hot and dense state, where the physics we have a firm understanding of, no longer applied.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby jonesthecurl on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:36 am

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jonesthecurl wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:
Here we go again. Reference please, especially for the Science with a capital "S".



A response. viceroy? or your third la-la-la I can't hear you?

(I'm not counting anyone else's challenges at this point, or a number of others of mine which you honestly might have missed in the general flak that comes in your direction).

But your continual appeals to unimpeachable authority which you can't then back up are beginning to be tiresome.

He, of course cannot.... the only things he will believe are things that already agree with his thought processes.

Convenient way to believe you know what truth is... just ignore anything that points out a difference. Of course, this is pretty much exactly the opposite of what Christ teaches (not that you particularly care about that argument, I realize).

Viceroy is not just wrong, he blasphemies by pretending his lies are supported by the Bible.


Interesting, Player.
To me it seems simpler than that;
He lambasts everyone for "not thinking for themself" then randomly quotes unimpeachable authorities which are either Dr Morris or something he makes up and calls "Science".
Then shuts up when challenged.
Stupid? Deluded?Willlfully ignorant? Troll?
It's actually not possible to tell.
Viceroy perhaps you could clear this up for us.
Are you stupid, deluded, heretical willfully ignorant, or trolling?
If none of the above, can you try to enlighten us on who else shares your views? I doubt if you even follow Dr Morris all that closely.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:51 am

So, Viceroy, how exactly does Lawrence Krauss' lecture support your positions?
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:01 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:So, Viceroy, how exactly does Lawrence Krauss' lecture support your positions?

First you have to understand that there is science, the science that the rest of us believe, which is really just delusion... and then there is the "real" science, which bases itself upon facts known only to a select and privilaged few, such as Viceroy, hidden from the rest of us by our strange requirement to actually see and hear things, rather than just finding someone we like on the internet and believing whatever they say.

There are a few other young earth creationists here with whom I certainly disagree, but who seem mostly to have been extremely misinformed. Viceroy seems more like a troll.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby sundance123 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:41 am

LMAO at the voting instuction. "Lets vote on the facts". F'in creationists.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby AAFitz on Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:59 am

sundance123 wrote:LMAO at the voting instuction. "Lets vote on the facts". F'in creationists.


I vote the earth is flat, and the moon is cheese, swiss cheese...obviously.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby betiko on Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:54 am

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sundance123 wrote:LMAO at the voting instuction. "Lets vote on the facts". F'in creationists.


I vote the earth is flat, and the moon is cheese, swiss cheese...obviously.


it's actually french cheese. I can quote doctor morris, he wrote a book about it.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby crispybits on Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:03 am

I vote that creationists don't actually exist, and we're just all suffering a mass delusion caused by a God that created everything 6000 years ago because he's bored now and has nothing better to do.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby Viceroy63 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:29 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:So, Viceroy, how exactly does Lawrence Krauss' lecture support your positions?


That evolution is a lie? It does not. I allowed myself to get side tract by those who simply can not or do not want to focus on the issue about the unfounded and false theory of evolution. Thanks BBS for setting me straight. I'll try not to get dissuaded again.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:31 pm

Viceroy63 wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:So, Viceroy, how exactly does Lawrence Krauss' lecture support your positions?


That evolution is a lie? It does not. I allowed myself to get side tract by those who simply can not or do not want to focus on the issue about the unfounded and false theory of evolution. Thanks BBS for setting me straight. I'll try not to get dissuaded again.


Ah, in other words, you failed to counter jonesthecurl's objections in his post.

Thanks for trolling or being an idiot. It's difficult to tell, but see ya around!
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby MeDeFe on Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:39 pm

betiko wrote:
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sundance123 wrote:LMAO at the voting instuction. "Lets vote on the facts". F'in creationists.

I vote the earth is flat, and the moon is cheese, swiss cheese...obviously.

it's actually french cheese. I can quote doctor morris, he wrote a book about it.

It's made of parmesan you blasphemers!
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:40 pm

MeDeFe wrote:
betiko wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
sundance123 wrote:LMAO at the voting instuction. "Lets vote on the facts". F'in creationists.

I vote the earth is flat, and the moon is cheese, swiss cheese...obviously.

it's actually french cheese. I can quote doctor morris, he wrote a book about it.

It's made of parmesan you blasphemers!

Blessed Are the Cheesemakers!
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby GreecePwns on Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:05 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
betiko wrote:
AAFitz wrote:
sundance123 wrote:LMAO at the voting instuction. "Lets vote on the facts". F'in creationists.

I vote the earth is flat, and the moon is cheese, swiss cheese...obviously.

it's actually french cheese. I can quote doctor morris, he wrote a book about it.

It's made of parmesan you blasphemers!

Blessed Are the Cheesemakers!

Guys, calm down.

It's obviously made out of American cheese, because God is American.
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Re: An Unproven Hypothesis, The Rise of Ignorance.

Postby tzor on Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:22 pm

Why don't you ask an expert ... someone who has been to the Moon?

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