Repeal Gun Free School Zones!?

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Should Schools Have an Armed Professional on Campus?

Yes
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Sounds like a good idea
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8%
Maybe
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3%
Sounds like a bad idea
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No
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IDK
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Re: Repeal Gun Free School Zones!?

Postby Evil Semp on Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:03 pm

Phatscotty wrote:It seems you guys are more worried about the teachers than the psycho mass murderers...that's fucked up.


You bet your sweet ass I am. It is because accidents happen. The more weapons you put around kids the bigger chance an accident will happen.

Like this recent story. This person wasn't thorough with safety with his son around but you will expect teachers to be more thorough with safety.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1216076

It will only take one accidental killing of a child by a teacher to make this a bad idea.
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Re: Repeal Gun Free School Zones!?

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:13 pm

Evil Semp wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:It seems you guys are more worried about the teachers than the psycho mass murderers...that's fucked up.


You bet your sweet ass I am. It is because accidents happen. The more weapons you put around kids the bigger chance an accident will happen.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1216076

It will only take one accidental killing of a child by a teacher to make this a bad idea.


like I said, there are already schools where the teachers carry their guns at all times. That means it's a good idea so far?
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Re: Repeal Gun Free School Zones!?

Postby Evil Semp on Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:18 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Evil Semp wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:It seems you guys are more worried about the teachers than the psycho mass murderers...that's fucked up.


You bet your sweet ass I am. It is because accidents happen. The more weapons you put around kids the bigger chance an accident will happen.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1216076

It will only take one accidental killing of a child by a teacher to make this a bad idea.


like I said, there are already schools where the teachers carry their guns at all times. That means it's a good idea so far?


Until an accident happens. So to answer your question NO!
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Re: Repeal Gun Free School Zones!?

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:19 pm

Evil Semp wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Evil Semp wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:It seems you guys are more worried about the teachers than the psycho mass murderers...that's fucked up.


You bet your sweet ass I am. It is because accidents happen. The more weapons you put around kids the bigger chance an accident will happen.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1216076

It will only take one accidental killing of a child by a teacher to make this a bad idea.


like I said, there are already schools where the teachers carry their guns at all times. That means it's a good idea so far?


Until an accident happens. So to answer your question NO!


are we really more worried about an accident than we are these mass shootings that actually happen (unlike the anticipated accident)
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Re: Repeal Gun Free School Zones!?

Postby Evil Semp on Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:28 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Evil Semp wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Evil Semp wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:It seems you guys are more worried about the teachers than the psycho mass murderers...that's fucked up.


You bet your sweet ass I am. It is because accidents happen. The more weapons you put around kids the bigger chance an accident will happen.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1216076

It will only take one accidental killing of a child by a teacher to make this a bad idea.


like I said, there are already schools where the teachers carry their guns at all times. That means it's a good idea so far?


Until an accident happens. So to answer your question NO!


are we really more worried about an accident than we are these mass shootings that actually happen (unlike the anticipated accident)


Yes. One reason the "anticipated accident" hasn't happened is because of gun free zones. I hope the accident that I describe never happens but I would like to eliminate that possibility.
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Re: Repeal Gun Free School Zones!?

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:32 pm

we should be worried about eliminating the possibility that someone can wipe out almost 30 people, completely unopposed...

I think if people knew there were armed people in schools, they would not target schools nearly as much
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Re: Repeal Gun Free School Zones!?

Postby Metsfanmax on Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:39 pm

Phatscotty wrote:we should be worried about eliminating the possibility that someone can wipe out almost 30 people, completely unopposed...

I think if people knew there were armed people in schools, they would not target schools nearly as much


What do you think is more important -- to reduce the number of people who die in spree shootings, or the number of people who die in gun-related violence in general, including all of the isolated incidents?
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Re: Repeal Gun Free School Zones!?

Postby Woodruff on Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:07 am

Phatscotty wrote:
Evil Semp wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Evil Semp wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:It seems you guys are more worried about the teachers than the psycho mass murderers...that's fucked up.


You bet your sweet ass I am. It is because accidents happen. The more weapons you put around kids the bigger chance an accident will happen.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1216076

It will only take one accidental killing of a child by a teacher to make this a bad idea.


like I said, there are already schools where the teachers carry their guns at all times. That means it's a good idea so far?


Until an accident happens. So to answer your question NO!


are we really more worried about an accident than we are these mass shootings that actually happen (unlike the anticipated accident)


Without question - it's simply a matter of statistics.
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Re: Repeal Gun Free School Zones!?

Postby Woodruff on Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:08 am

Phatscotty wrote:we should be worried about eliminating the possibility that someone can wipe out almost 30 people, completely unopposed...


So you favor eliminating all guns.
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Re: Repeal Gun Free School Zones!?

Postby Woodruff on Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:09 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:we should be worried about eliminating the possibility that someone can wipe out almost 30 people, completely unopposed...

I think if people knew there were armed people in schools, they would not target schools nearly as much


What do you think is more important -- to reduce the number of people who die in spree shootings, or the number of people who die in gun-related violence in general, including all of the isolated incidents?


Whichever one allows him to push his God-fearing, homosexual-hating, foot-on-the-throat-of-the-poor, gun-toting agenda, of course.
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Re: Repeal Gun Free School Zones!?

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:18 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:we should be worried about eliminating the possibility that someone can wipe out almost 30 people, completely unopposed...

I think if people knew there were armed people in schools, they would not target schools nearly as much


What do you think is more important -- to reduce the number of people who die in spree shootings, or the number of people who die in gun-related violence in general, including all of the isolated incidents?


I think it's most important that people have a means to defend themselves at all times and in all places, whatever the situation
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Re: Repeal Gun Free School Zones!?

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:20 am

I also think it would work somewhat even if we just say that there are teachers and principles armed, even if they really aren't armed...
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Re: Repeal Gun Free School Zones!?

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:36 am

Sheriff Arpaio sending armed posse to protect schools
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Re: Repeal Gun Free School Zones!?

Postby chang50 on Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:47 am

Phatscotty wrote:I also think it would work somewhat even if we just say that there are teachers and principles armed, even if they really aren't armed...


Perhaps you meant 'principals'?Just one honest question,if nearly 300 million guns aren't enough,how many will be?This whole absurd scenario reminds me of the first rule of how to get out of a hole.Stop digging..
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Re: Repeal Gun Free School Zones!?

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:02 pm

chang50 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:I also think it would work somewhat even if we just say that there are teachers and principles armed, even if they really aren't armed...


Perhaps you meant 'principals'?Just one honest question,if nearly 300 million guns aren't enough,how many will be?This whole absurd scenario reminds me of the first rule of how to get out of a hole.Stop digging..


I don't know why you guys are obsessed with there being 300 million guns here, when it's clear you aren't able to process that information. Your fear of guns and implication that the gun is evil interferes with your thought processes the way only a religious fundamentalist who hears God talking can relate.

In this case, I only wish that 1 teacher/principle at Sandy Hook elementary school had 1 gun. Maybe even the teachers who charged Lansa with absolutely nothing in their hands....basically understanding they were living the last seconds of their lives, but coping with the reality there was absolutely nothing they could do to stop the shooting of an entire classroom of children. So they charged the shooter, barehanded, and became another number in the death total.

Yes, it was an act of heroism by these teachers, I would only prefer one of them had a gun, and could be a hero AND still be alive, and perhaps shaved the death total to 22, 17, 12, or even 6....if one of those people who charged Lansa had a gun and was trained (farrrrr more trained than Lansa) the Sandy Hook tragedy would still be a tragedy, but perhaps 15 children, or even just 2 children, would have been saved by a miracle as well.
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