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Phatscotty wrote:Baron Von PWN wrote:Phatscotty wrote:Baron Von PWN wrote:Lol wut? You've gone even further off the deep end than usual scotty. You are straight up demanding the government punish someone for holding an opinion you don't like. They haven't done anything, they've just criticized american gun culture. This is apparently grounds for deportation in phatscotty land.
Apparently its ok for the government to punish you for holding unpopular opinions, but it's not ok for the government to restrict access to firearms. You can't say what's on your mind but don't worry you can have as many guns as you want. In this way your liberty will be maximized, so long as you shut up.
You see it as criticizing our culture, I see it as a direct attack on the second amendment. The government isn't going to do anything...We The People are.
We won't give up an inch
So what if it's a direct attack on the second amendment? Why would this be grounds for deportation? Deporting this guy for attacking the second amendment would be flagrantly ignoring the document you allegedly seek to protect.
He thinks the second amendment is dumb, and against the USA's best interest and actively expounds his views. So what? Is political debate dangerous to america's well being? Why turn to government coercion rather than using your first amendment to argue with them? What is warranting the demand for deportation. What is this man's crime? aside from speaking his mind of course.
my edit didn't make it in time....but here it isThis petition to the government to humorously "deport" Piers Morgan is an attention getter, and yes we are using the media to fire the first shot across the bow. This is just one of many different attacks Morgan is going to suffer...Like I said earlier, Piers Morgan is about to be Glenn Beck'd, but where the Left failed to destroy Glenn Beck, America will succeed in making Piers unwelcome to attack us and our rights
And so what if it is a direct attack on the second amendment? If that is your attitude, what are you so worried about with me, whether you understand me to just be using the first amendment, or as others suggest I am directly attacking British citizen Piers Morgan's first amendment rights? If you say so what he is attacking our second amendment rights, shouldnt you also be of the opinion so what if I am attacking the Brits first amendment rights? Just asking you to stay consistent
Then I say to you "So what if I directly and passionately defend the second Amendment from his attacks?"
Phatscotty wrote:but as I have been saying, I don't truly believe that Morgan will be deported. But there is nothing wrong with us sending a crystal clear message either.
You keep taking this literally, even as I have told you this is just an attention getter. There is a lot of strategery going on, and it's how American's do it. I'm not about to show our hand or explain the tactics. All you know is that there is pressure being put on Piers Morgan, and where we are now is the White House is going to have to make a statement. You can count on me to keep you posted.
Baron Von PWN wrote:Phatscotty wrote:but as I have been saying, I don't truly believe that Morgan will be deported. But there is nothing wrong with us sending a crystal clear message either.
You keep taking this literally, even as I have told you this is just an attention getter. There is a lot of strategery going on, and it's how American's do it. I'm not about to show our hand or explain the tactics. All you know is that there is pressure being put on Piers Morgan, and where we are now is the White House is going to have to make a statement. You can count on me to keep you posted.
Well when you start a petition to deport someone. I can only assume you want the guy deported. That is the stated goal of the petition. It does send a message, none of it complementary to the people who sent the message. This petition should be given the briefest of comments, to the effect of "the US government will not deport this guy for his commentary" that's it.
Phatscotty wrote:Baron Von PWN wrote:Phatscotty wrote:but as I have been saying, I don't truly believe that Morgan will be deported. But there is nothing wrong with us sending a crystal clear message either.
You keep taking this literally, even as I have told you this is just an attention getter. There is a lot of strategery going on, and it's how American's do it. I'm not about to show our hand or explain the tactics. All you know is that there is pressure being put on Piers Morgan, and where we are now is the White House is going to have to make a statement. You can count on me to keep you posted.
Well when you start a petition to deport someone. I can only assume you want the guy deported. That is the stated goal of the petition. It does send a message, none of it complementary to the people who sent the message. This petition should be given the briefest of comments, to the effect of "the US government will not deport this guy for his commentary" that's it.
I didn't start it. I just shared it.
Just curious, how do you feel about Michael Savage (radio host) being banned from the UK? not just deported, but banned.
Phatscotty wrote:Serbia wrote:Phatscotty wrote:Serbia wrote:I'm an American who supports gun rights. I'm also an American who thinks anyone can disagree with me without being threatened with deportation over the disagreement. Even suggesting that he should be kicked out of the country for his beliefs is so anti-American, it's disgusting. So go fuck yourselves, insecure haters.
....and, what if we were at war with Britain? And a Brit was promoting Americans to help take away other American's arms?
...and, are we at war with Britain? And is there any likelihood of going to war with Britain in the 10 years? And no, even if we were somehow at war with the UK, I wouldn't want to deport someone for speaking his mind. That's an insanely slippery slope, and I'm amazed that you, Mr. Libertarian, don't see that.
No, just asking where you draw the line for when it's wrong to try to take away our rights, and when it's "just speech"
Should Hitler have been allowed to travel to the USA, protected by our "right to life" and then give a speech to Americans, protected under "right to free speech"?
And a military war was just a pretext I wanted to lay down, because of course we aren't at war nor will we likely be at war with Britain. But, there is a culture war, and that culture is anti-American.
Phatscotty wrote:Let me ask you guys something. Just imagine for a minute, you are at the rostrum at a rally of whatever movement is most passionate to you. Let's just say it's gay rights. So, during your rally, some anti-gay guy takes over the microphone and starts saying that being gay is wrong and it is sinful. Given he makes no hateful threats......are you going to try to tell me honestly that you are going to sit back and say "well, he has the right to speak, we should be respectful and listen" or is it more like "get this piece of shit off the stage" and start throwing tomatoes? Anyone who has a problem with what I have been saying in this thread, I want an answer.
I think about now many are starting to see how they are being hypocritical here
Baron Von PWN wrote:Phatscotty wrote:Let me ask you guys something. Just imagine for a minute, you are at the rostrum at a rally of whatever movement is most passionate to you. Let's just say it's gay rights. So, during your rally, some anti-gay guy takes over the microphone and starts saying that being gay is wrong and it is sinful. Given he makes no hateful threats......are you going to try to tell me honestly that you are going to sit back and say "well, he has the right to speak, we should be respectful and listen" or is it more like "get this piece of shit off the stage" and start throwing tomatoes? Anyone who has a problem with what I have been saying in this thread, I want an answer.
I think about now many are starting to see how they are being hypocritical here
Well I would boo the heck out of them. When did Piers Morgan crash a pro gun rally?
I wouldn't petition my government to deport/jail/punish them.
Scotty those national headlines are laughing at you, not with you.Phatscotty wrote:Baron Von PWN wrote:Phatscotty wrote:Let me ask you guys something. Just imagine for a minute, you are at the rostrum at a rally of whatever movement is most passionate to you. Let's just say it's gay rights. So, during your rally, some anti-gay guy takes over the microphone and starts saying that being gay is wrong and it is sinful. Given he makes no hateful threats......are you going to try to tell me honestly that you are going to sit back and say "well, he has the right to speak, we should be respectful and listen" or is it more like "get this piece of shit off the stage" and start throwing tomatoes? Anyone who has a problem with what I have been saying in this thread, I want an answer.
I think about now many are starting to see how they are being hypocritical here
Well I would boo the heck out of them. When did Piers Morgan crash a pro gun rally?
I wouldn't petition my government to deport/jail/punish them.
Neither would I, nor have I, nor is the deportation literal.
It's just a message, loud and clear. Just like booing someone, except our booing makes national headlines.
Iliad wrote:Scotty those national headlines are laughing at you, not with you.Phatscotty wrote:Baron Von PWN wrote:Phatscotty wrote:Let me ask you guys something. Just imagine for a minute, you are at the rostrum at a rally of whatever movement is most passionate to you. Let's just say it's gay rights. So, during your rally, some anti-gay guy takes over the microphone and starts saying that being gay is wrong and it is sinful. Given he makes no hateful threats......are you going to try to tell me honestly that you are going to sit back and say "well, he has the right to speak, we should be respectful and listen" or is it more like "get this piece of shit off the stage" and start throwing tomatoes? Anyone who has a problem with what I have been saying in this thread, I want an answer.
I think about now many are starting to see how they are being hypocritical here
Well I would boo the heck out of them. When did Piers Morgan crash a pro gun rally?
I wouldn't petition my government to deport/jail/punish them.
Neither would I, nor have I, nor is the deportation literal.
It's just a message, loud and clear. Just like booing someone, except our booing makes national headlines.
What's next, a petition to ban the Koran, just "to send a message"?
Will copy pasta my last post: Brilliant logic. As everyone knows America was founded on the principle that dissent and criticism of the constitution should not be tolerated lest it unsettle the good old American values. As well as the notion that immigrants are 2nd class citizens who shouldn't attempt to contribute to helping the country prosper or develop.
Phatscotty wrote:Iliad wrote:Scotty those national headlines are laughing at you, not with you.Phatscotty wrote:Baron Von PWN wrote:Phatscotty wrote:Let me ask you guys something. Just imagine for a minute, you are at the rostrum at a rally of whatever movement is most passionate to you. Let's just say it's gay rights. So, during your rally, some anti-gay guy takes over the microphone and starts saying that being gay is wrong and it is sinful. Given he makes no hateful threats......are you going to try to tell me honestly that you are going to sit back and say "well, he has the right to speak, we should be respectful and listen" or is it more like "get this piece of shit off the stage" and start throwing tomatoes? Anyone who has a problem with what I have been saying in this thread, I want an answer.
I think about now many are starting to see how they are being hypocritical here
Well I would boo the heck out of them. When did Piers Morgan crash a pro gun rally?
I wouldn't petition my government to deport/jail/punish them.
Neither would I, nor have I, nor is the deportation literal.
It's just a message, loud and clear. Just like booing someone, except our booing makes national headlines.
What's next, a petition to ban the Koran, just "to send a message"?
Will copy pasta my last post: Brilliant logic. As everyone knows America was founded on the principle that dissent and criticism of the constitution should not be tolerated lest it unsettle the good old American values. As well as the notion that immigrants are 2nd class citizens who shouldn't attempt to contribute to helping the country prosper or develop.
precious foreigners. I would never even attempt to try to say "everyone knows Australia was founded on...." You don't know shit about America
I'm no longer responding to foreigners except for Beave and maybe a few others who have my respect
Phatscotty wrote:Let me ask you guys something. Just imagine for a minute, you are at the rostrum at a rally of whatever movement is most passionate to you. Let's just say it's gay rights. So, during your rally, some anti-gay guy is invited to the microphone and starts saying that being gay is wrong and it is sinful. Given he makes no hateful threats......are you going to try to tell me honestly that you are going to sit back and say "well, he has the right to speak, we should be respectful and listen" or is it more like "get this piece of shit off the stage" and start throwing tomatoes? Anyone who has a problem with what I have been saying in this thread, I would like an answer.
I think about now many are starting to see how they are being hypocritical here
Piers Morgan, from an island called Britain, is one of millions of foreign-born workers doing a job few Americans would willingly do. Like many farmhands, unskilled laborers and television personalities, he rises early each morning to face a sometimes humiliating job. Morgan hosts a talk show on CNN.
He has struggled in the ratings since taking over for "Larry King Live" nearly two years ago. He speaks English well, but still sometimes finds it hard to connect with people here. And though he was a celebrated journalist on his island, here he is forced to interview some of the least interesting Americans, like the Kardashians. Once he had no guest at all, and had to interview a chair. But Morgan rarely complains. He earns enough to scrape by, and is grateful for his humble new way of life.
Some will say Morgan is in no real danger, because the people who want him gone are wackos. But he lives in fear.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertain ... 9027.story
betiko wrote:Lol, I can t help being surprised each day by some american points of view.
warmonger1981 wrote:Unless you live in america. Are of a nationality that rightfully stole this beautiful land from native Americans you have nothing to say.
Phatscotty wrote:Iliad wrote:Scotty those national headlines are laughing at you, not with you.Phatscotty wrote:Baron Von PWN wrote:Phatscotty wrote:Let me ask you guys something. Just imagine for a minute, you are at the rostrum at a rally of whatever movement is most passionate to you. Let's just say it's gay rights. So, during your rally, some anti-gay guy takes over the microphone and starts saying that being gay is wrong and it is sinful. Given he makes no hateful threats......are you going to try to tell me honestly that you are going to sit back and say "well, he has the right to speak, we should be respectful and listen" or is it more like "get this piece of shit off the stage" and start throwing tomatoes? Anyone who has a problem with what I have been saying in this thread, I want an answer.
I think about now many are starting to see how they are being hypocritical here
Well I would boo the heck out of them. When did Piers Morgan crash a pro gun rally?
I wouldn't petition my government to deport/jail/punish them.
Neither would I, nor have I, nor is the deportation literal.
It's just a message, loud and clear. Just like booing someone, except our booing makes national headlines.
What's next, a petition to ban the Koran, just "to send a message"?
Will copy pasta my last post: Brilliant logic. As everyone knows America was founded on the principle that dissent and criticism of the constitution should not be tolerated lest it unsettle the good old American values. As well as the notion that immigrants are 2nd class citizens who shouldn't attempt to contribute to helping the country prosper or develop.
precious foreigners. I would never even attempt to try to say "everyone knows Australia was founded on...." You don't know shit about America
I'm no longer responding to foreigners except for Beave and maybe a few others who have my respect
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