Conquer Club

This is great! We can go disarm all of these people now!

Sure, add me to the list. Now maybe prowlers will look me up,think twice and hit the anti-gun liberals down the street instead.
Seriously though, if everyone owned a gun to keep up with the times it would keep everyone a little more honest.

Yeah, do it.
This way we outlaws will know who's NOT a gun owner and which houses we can safely break in.
I definitely support this suggestion.

Isn't there already a list like that in the USA? It's called the "telephone directory" or something I think...

MeDeFe wrote:Isn't there already a list like that in the USA? It's called the "telephone directory" or something I think...

This.

CreepersWiener wrote:

This is great! We can go disarm all of these people now!

Hard to do, since there's no national registry of gun sales, especially those that are conducted between private citizens.

MeDeFe wrote:Isn't there already a list like that in the USA? It's called the "telephone directory" or something I think...

LOL... in my town, that is pretty much correct.

Just a shot in the dark, but I'd call this a bad idea.

BMO

CreepersWiener wrote:

This is great! We can go disarm all of these people now!

Why stop there, just go the next step and force all law abiding gun owning citizens to wear yellow stars on their coats.

see how ya are?

Just combine the gun owners list with the sex offenders list.

Precisely the problem when law-abiding citizens are forced to register their law-abiding activities with the federal government. That's why there are a lot of people who have a problem with having to register guns in the first place. And the fact that others could get a hold of such registrations through Freedom of Information requests is absolutely ridiculous. Of course, the only good thing is that maybe the thieves will be smart enough to look at that map and only go after people who don't have guns.

Night Strike wrote:Of course, the only good thing is that maybe the thieves will be smart enough to look at that map and only go after people who don't have guns.

For those of us who prefer not to own a gun, I do not see this as a good thing.

maxfaraday wrote:Yeah, do it.
This way we outlaws will know who's NOT a gun owner and which houses we can safely break in.
I definitely support this suggestion.

Metsfanmax wrote:

Night Strike wrote:Of course, the only good thing is that maybe the thieves will be smart enough to look at that map and only go after people who don't have guns.

For those of us who prefer not to own a gun, I do not see this as a good thing.

You're damn right we'll be smart enough.

WE'RE COMING FOR YOU!

Metsfanmax wrote:

Night Strike wrote:Of course, the only good thing is that maybe the thieves will be smart enough to look at that map and only go after people who don't have guns.

For those of us who prefer not to own a gun, I do not see this as a good thing.

So you don't like what could happen, yet you want to get rid of ALL guns so that the same thing can happen to other people as well?

You don't think that the hard core criminal wouldn't love to find out where he could steal firearms.

Sackett58 wrote:You don't think that the hard core criminal wouldn't love to find out where he could steal firearms.

Only if he was absolutely sure the nobody was home. Most criminals prefer to get away with their crimes with the least amount of hassle possible. If they get addresses of places that are much less likely to have a gun in the house, they know they have a much lower chance of being hurt while committing their crime.

Night Strike wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:

Night Strike wrote:Of course, the only good thing is that maybe the thieves will be smart enough to look at that map and only go after people who don't have guns.

For those of us who prefer not to own a gun, I do not see this as a good thing.

So you don't like what could happen, yet you want to get rid of ALL guns so that the same thing can happen to other people as well?

Not sure Mets has ever said get rid of all guns, but he should answer this.

Or he could just slam his head back into the sand and pretend he didn't just realize how retarded he is.

Phatscotty wrote:

CreepersWiener wrote:

This is great! We can go disarm all of these people now!

Why stop there, just go the next step and force all law abiding gun owning citizens to wear yellow stars on their coats.

see how ya are?

Will the stars say deputy sheriff?

Night Strike wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:

Night Strike wrote:Of course, the only good thing is that maybe the thieves will be smart enough to look at that map and only go after people who don't have guns.

For those of us who prefer not to own a gun, I do not see this as a good thing.

So you don't like what could happen, yet you want to get rid of ALL guns so that the same thing can happen to other people as well?

I never said I want to get rid of all guns.

But look at the story you linked in the other thread. Because the guy had a gun in his home, he ended up getting shot, and one of the robbers died. If he didn't have a gun, they most likely would have taken some jewelry and electronics and left, with no one seriously injured or dead. Yes, bad things happen in this world; but guns aggravate the problem in almost all circumstances, rather than being a successful deterrent.

Metsfanmax wrote:

Night Strike wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:

Night Strike wrote:Of course, the only good thing is that maybe the thieves will be smart enough to look at that map and only go after people who don't have guns.

For those of us who prefer not to own a gun, I do not see this as a good thing.

So you don't like what could happen, yet you want to get rid of ALL guns so that the same thing can happen to other people as well?

I never said I want to get rid of all guns.

But look at the story you linked in the other thread. Because the guy had a gun in his home, he ended up getting shot, and one of the robbers died. If he didn't have a gun, they most likely would have taken some jewelry and electronics and left, with no one seriously injured or dead. Yes, bad things happen in this world; but guns aggravate the problem in almost all circumstances, rather than being a successful deterrent.

You would rather hope that an intruder won't physically harm you than have a method of self-protection at your disposal? What happens if he decides to take those things and that he doesn't want to leave a witness?

Night Strike wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:

Night Strike wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:

Night Strike wrote:Of course, the only good thing is that maybe the thieves will be smart enough to look at that map and only go after people who don't have guns.

For those of us who prefer not to own a gun, I do not see this as a good thing.

So you don't like what could happen, yet you want to get rid of ALL guns so that the same thing can happen to other people as well?

I never said I want to get rid of all guns.

But look at the story you linked in the other thread. Because the guy had a gun in his home, he ended up getting shot, and one of the robbers died. If he didn't have a gun, they most likely would have taken some jewelry and electronics and left, with no one seriously injured or dead. Yes, bad things happen in this world; but guns aggravate the problem in almost all circumstances, rather than being a successful deterrent.

You would rather hope that an intruder won't physically harm you than have a method of self-protection at your disposal? What happens if he decides to take those things and that he doesn't want to leave a witness?

THAT RIGHT THERE IS THE DIFFERENCE. Either you watch way too much TV or America is still the wild west.

Night Strike wrote:You would rather hope that an intruder won't physically harm you than have a method of self-protection at your disposal? What happens if he decides to take those things and that he doesn't want to leave a witness?

I would absolutely rather hope than an intruder won't physically harm me. According to a 2009 study by UPenn, people who were in possession of a gun at the time of an assault were nearly five times more likely to be shot than people without a gun.

There's some intuitive reasons for this. For example, most of the time, the intent of the intruders is simply to take your stuff, and not to harm you (statistically speaking). When you aggravate the situation by brandishing your own weapon, you force the robber into a defensive situation, where they are more likely to fire the weapon they brought.

So you are saying that a gun gives you a false sense of security as well as taking the situation with most likely a habitual criminal to another level?

notyou2 wrote:So you are saying that a gun gives you a false sense of security as well as taking the situation with most likely a habitual criminal to another level?

That is my conclusion from this study, yes. That being said, there are obviously exceptions to this general rule. If you are a weapons expert or have advanced combat training, then you are probably able to handle your gun for self-defense with much more ability than the average citizen.