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What proposed gun control measures do you support?

None of These
7
5%
Prosecute People Who Lie on Felony-Record Background Checks
38
27%
Add the Names of the Known Mentally Disturbed to Background Check Database, in Addition to Felons
30
21%
Create a Registry of Who Owns What Firearms
14
10%
Require a Government-Issued License to Purchase
18
13%
Reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban
22
15%
Require Firearms be Stored at a Gun Range or in a Government-Inspected Vault in the Home
10
7%
Ban all Firearms
3
2%
 
Total votes : 142

Re: What specific gun control measures would you support?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:56 am

Haggis_McMutton wrote:I'd support a measure requiring all guns at all times to be painted in alternating stripes of light purple and lime green.

This way people can still use guns for whatever purpose they see fit, but the macho factor is drastically reduced.


Now, we're getting somewhere.
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Re: What specific gun control measures would you support?

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:01 pm

Gun Buyback vs. Supply & Demand
Winner: Supply & Demand


Seattle police exchanged $80,000 in gift cards for guns Saturday in a buyback event that resembled a freewheeling outdoor gun show as private buyers offered cash deals to tempt those standing in line. People on foot and in vehicles were corralled into a parking lot underneath Interstate 5 between Cherry and James streets, where they traded unwanted weapons to police for gift cards of $100 for handguns, shotguns and rifles, and $200 for assault weapons.

Officers stood by as makeshift gun shows sprang up on the sidewalks, just steps away from the buyback tents, as gun enthusiasts and collectors waved wads of cash for the guns being held by those standing in line.

“I’d prefer they wouldn’t sell them,” [Police Chief] Diaz said of the people in line making deals with the gun buyers.

One man jumped out of his vehicle as he was waiting in bumper-to-bumper traffic at the buyback and asked how much the gun enthusiasts and collectors were willing to pay for his three guns. He pocketed $500.

Dean Sabol, of Shoreline, who was turning in his grandfather’s shotgun and rifle, said the police were understaffed and slow, creating a free-for-all of buying and selling literally just a few feet away.

“It’s worse than a gun show,” Sabol said as he stood in line.

Police wandered the streets advising people to turn in their guns so the guns so they could be destroyed instead of selling them to the gun enthusiasts.

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/ ... ckxml.html

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Re: What specific gun control measures would you support?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:56 am

As we can see, the Seattle government is aware of and is capable of achieving the common good, which is why it set the correct price for all handguns and assault rifles.
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Re: What specific gun control measures would you support?

Postby stahrgazer on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:10 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:
stahrgazer wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:"Law abiding citizens" should have militias to patrol and protect them.... kk thanx...


You read it wrong, then.

I said, law abiding citizens should BE the militia volunteering to patrol schools, like a neighborhood watch.


That's what the Black Panthers and KKK have done in the past.
What do you call a system of government that has armed patrols everywhere?


You're still reading it wrong.

The BP and the KKK could hardly be considered volunteer militia formed like a neighborhood watch to protect schools; and a militia of volunteers like a neighborhood watch is hardly a government patrol.

In fact, the reason to prefer a volunteer militia like a neighborhood watch is to prevent "the government" from having armed patrols everywhere - which is right in line with the 2nd Amendment.
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Re: What specific gun control measures would you support?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:19 pm

stahrgazer wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:
stahrgazer wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:"Law abiding citizens" should have militias to patrol and protect them.... kk thanx...


You read it wrong, then.

I said, law abiding citizens should BE the militia volunteering to patrol schools, like a neighborhood watch.


That's what the Black Panthers and KKK have done in the past.
What do you call a system of government that has armed patrols everywhere?


You're still reading it wrong.

The BP and the KKK could hardly be considered volunteer militia formed like a neighborhood watch to protect schools; and a militia of volunteers like a neighborhood watch is hardly a government patrol.

In fact, the reason to prefer a volunteer militia like a neighborhood watch is to prevent "the government" from having armed patrols everywhere - which is right in line with the 2nd Amendment.


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Re: What specific gun control measures would you support?

Postby Juan_Bottom on Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:11 pm

In the slave-holding South, militias existed only to hunt down fugitive slaves. They also formed the basis of lynch mobs, and they were the first armed men to respond to John Brown's Raid. They also interfered with the Federal Government's ability to police. These Militia's seem inarguably the parent of the KKK to me. The KKK also formed neighborhood watches and Militia's. The Ossian Sweet Case involving Clarance Darrow is a fine example of this.

The Black Panthers formed Militias to protect their communities from intimidation, drug dealers, and outside influences. These Militia's are the very reason Ronald Reagan signed a law forbidding armed groups from patrolling. Black militias with guns. . . *shivers*

This is what I'm talking about. In each case, these Militia's were law-abiding, armed, and operated with the consent of their communities. They also lead to arms-races between these two communities. But what's the difference? I'm not reading it wrong, I'm explaining why your argument is dangerous and inadequate. Under your plan/dream/idea, if the KKK wants to form a volunteer militia to protect your school, then technically there's no way for the government to tell them "no." They couldn't stop them from adopting highways, so how can they stop them from creating your armed citizen militias?
And more importantly, why would you or anyone want to stop them? I mean, I know why I would want to stop them, but I think this idea is silly.
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Postby 2dimes on Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:31 pm

How do you suggest we keep whitey out of our schools.
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Postby Juan_Bottom on Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:55 am

2dimes wrote:How do you suggest we keep whitey out of our schools.


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We have to control the production and distribution of Mayonnaise... after that whitey does what we tell him. We don't need guns, we need egg whites and spices.



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Re: What specific gun control measures would you support?

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:39 pm

Tina Turner Renounces U.S. Citizenship, Now a Citizen of "Full Socialist" [sic - Juan_Bottom] Switzerland

A Swiss paper wrote Friday that the 73-year-old had been granted citizenship, according to the Associated Press. The Nutbush, Tenn.-born singer has passed a local civics test and interview.

The singer wanted to "clarify her situation," Turner's rep told the Swiss newspaper Zuerichsee-Zeitung.

"Tina Turner will therefore also give back her U.S. citizenship," her rep said.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/go ... 5546.story


the strategic move means Turner is no longer a "wealthy foreigner" and is now a "wealthy native" and will be able to lock-in her rock-bottom Swiss income tax in the face of a local move to jack-up rates on expats

Although they pay lower taxes across all income brackets than Americans and other Europeans, many Swiss are increasingly critical of the preferential tax treatment their government extends to wealthy foreigners.

http://world.time.com/2012/10/31/switze ... -numbered/


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Postby 2dimes on Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:57 pm

Nutbush? Hot!
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Re: What specific gun control measures would you support?

Postby stahrgazer on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:41 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:In the slave-holding South, militias existed only to hunt down fugitive slaves. They also formed the basis of lynch mobs, and they were the first armed men to respond to John Brown's Raid. They also interfered with the Federal Government's ability to police. These Militia's seem inarguably the parent of the KKK to me. The KKK also formed neighborhood watches and Militia's. The Ossian Sweet Case involving Clarance Darrow is a fine example of this.

The Black Panthers formed Militias to protect their communities from intimidation, drug dealers, and outside influences. These Militia's are the very reason Ronald Reagan signed a law forbidding armed groups from patrolling. Black militias with guns. . . *shivers*

This is what I'm talking about. In each case, these Militia's were law-abiding, armed, and operated with the consent of their communities. They also lead to arms-races between these two communities. But what's the difference? I'm not reading it wrong, I'm explaining why your argument is dangerous and inadequate. Under your plan/dream/idea, if the KKK wants to form a volunteer militia to protect your school, then technically there's no way for the government to tell them "no." They couldn't stop them from adopting highways, so how can they stop them from creating your armed citizen militias?
And more importantly, why would you or anyone want to stop them? I mean, I know why I would want to stop them, but I think this idea is silly.


Well, if all the KKK is planning to do is keep folks from killing kids, or keep highways clean, I don't care what they do; ditto Black Panthers. If they're not using the guns illegally I couldn't care less how many of them own guns. On the other hand, not long after I moved where I now live, some KKK burned down the home of a black woman, and I have BIG problems with that, as did this community.

It should be up to the communities, like any Neighborhood Watch program.

I also live in the state where someone in neighborhood watch is claiming the "stand your ground" rule for defense because he shot a teenaged black boy; he claims the boy was aggressive, up to no good, whatever, although the people who knew and loved him say otherwise. The man is on trial, and no longer part of the neighborhood watch for that community. Similarly, if any KKK or Black Panthers did something questionable within their communities, even as part of a neighborhood watch, I'd hope they'd be on trial as well.

Meanwhile, how they'd be told, "No," is if the community Neighborhood Watch organizer refused their application.

If Connecticut did have Black Panthers patrolling Sandy Hook, think whatshisface would've chosen that school to go mental at? I kinda doubt it.
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