Juan_Bottom wrote:Oh do please go on, finish your thought on how to properly joke farm the Holocaust. And let my healing begin! I was ill informed before, not understanding that it was my "imagination" that was holding me back from being a fully-developed westerner. I have never met a Holocaust survivor or family member who insulted the living memory of the dead before. Certainly none of my Grandfather's children do.
There's no such thing as "recovery has already happened." That's horrifically stupid and ignorant. An entire generation or two has grown up apart from those who died in the Holocaust, an that's the "recovery" you speak of. But no, no one who has lived through the Holocaust or was raised by someone who did finds it funny to laugh at the massacred millions. Nobody who has educated themselves on these events will laugh at them either. The scars are still there marked upon more than just the land; the scars cut deep into the souls of generations of victims. Though it's not just Holocaust victims who understand this, but their experience is special. I'm sure that you can find communities of minorities of various religions, races, and sexes all over the world who bear the same wounds and mental burdens.
Humor is often found through controversy, like race or sex. And so there are people like you who feel that an extension of that controversy is to make fun of Holocaust Survivors. Worst still, is that people want to respect you, and they see you mocking Holocaust Survivors and they want to emulate you. But I'm banking that the CC community isn't so daft as all that. My grandfather was a Norwegian Patriot and an American Hero who fought against the Nazis in any army that would take him. I am terribly sad for what he went through by losing his entire family, and never even knowing their fate. And I cannot imagine what other families went through, but I would be lacking the crucial elements of humanity if I allowed you to insult any of their memories.
Ok, so BBS obviously has no right to tell you how you should deal with your grief, that much is pretty clear.
Regarding the jokes themselves, I'm honestly asking, is anyone actually doing any of the bolded things?
I don't think saying "I did nazi see that coming anne frankly I'm offended" or whatever else stupid puns/references people were making in that thread is making fun of Holocaust survivors and laughing at millions of massacred people. I think they're just stupid puns.
As George Carlin said, every joke needs one exaggeration. It's the nature of the exaggeration that shows the intent of the joke. If the exaggeration is suggesting that the holocaust victims were rightfully slaughtered, or that they deserved it, or whatever, then yes it's reprehensible.
Were, in your opinion, people making those exaggerations ?