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Re: BBS explains why the Holocaust is funny

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:01 am

Juan wrote:We do not even use the term 'mentally retarded,' we use the term 'developmentally disabled.'
Moron, Stupid, Idiot, Imbecile, etc were once all terms used to describe varying degrees of developmental disabilities. Do 'tons of mentally retarded people' have a problem with those words? Nope. What you actually said was accidentally insulting when you called them 'Mentally Retarded.' It's the same as calling a little person a 'midget.' I'm sure that they're ok with the word "midget," just don't call them one. Anyway, get your sh*t together man, you're supposed to be one of the good guys!


Mentally retarded is the term you'll find on medical sheets. Trust me. The DD term is the nice pc version we use for program details and intra-company talk to avoid the stigma of 'retarded.'

I guarantee you that if you use the term 'retarded' around DD individuals, there are a very large percentage that are going to have a behavior. Just trust me on that.

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Re: BBS explains why the Holocaust is funny

Postby Neoteny on Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:02 am

I want to post about a lot of things in this thread, but I'm not sure I really want to be depressed.
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Re: BBS explains why the Holocaust is funny

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:07 am

Neoteny wrote:I want to post about a lot of things in this thread, but I'm not sure I really want to be depressed.


How can we know what is funny without knowing what is sad?
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Re: BBS explains why the Holocaust is funny

Postby Funkyterrance on Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:14 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Neoteny wrote:I want to post about a lot of things in this thread, but I'm not sure I really want to be depressed.


How can we know what is funny without knowing what is sad?

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Re: BBS explains why the Holocaust is funny

Postby Neoteny on Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:32 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Neoteny wrote:I want to post about a lot of things in this thread, but I'm not sure I really want to be depressed.


How can we know what is funny without knowing what is sad?


If it's two distinct chemical pathways.
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Re: BBS explains why the Holocaust is funny

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:28 am

Juan_Bottom wrote:slaughtered by the Germans


... who stayed loyal because they were getting things.

Four sisters of the Ali Mohammed Nasser family in Yemen were killed. Afrah was 9 years old when she and her three younger sisters Zayda (7 years old) , Hoda (5 years old) and Sheika (4 years old) were struck by an American drone. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-childr ... ma/5320570


... who stayed loyal because they were getting things.

As you know, Juan, people you can't see don't actually exist. What goes around never, ever, ever comes around. It's all about how much stuff you can grab right now and shove into your goody bag. Chilax and let the good times roll! There's definitely not a noose tightening. The castle walls are not crumbling. Nope, not at all. You'll never be communally indicted as a Fellow Traveler. The good times will never end! Never, by jove!

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Re: BBS explains why the Holocaust is funny

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:37 am

Juan_Bottom wrote:Oh do please go on, finish your thought on how to properly joke farm the Holocaust. And let my healing begin! I was ill informed before, not understanding that it was my "imagination" that was holding me back from being a fully-developed westerner. I have never met a Holocaust survivor or family member who insulted the living memory of the dead before. Certainly none of my Grandfather's children do.

There's no such thing as "recovery has already happened." That's horrifically stupid and ignorant. An entire generation or two has grown up apart from those who died in the Holocaust, an that's the "recovery" you speak of. But no, no one who has lived through the Holocaust or was raised by someone who did finds it funny to laugh at the massacred millions. Nobody who has educated themselves on these events will laugh at them either. The scars are still there marked upon more than just the land; the scars cut deep into the souls of generations of victims. Though it's not just Holocaust victims who understand this, but their experience is special. I'm sure that you can find communities of minorities of various religions, races, and sexes all over the world who bear the same wounds and mental burdens.
Humor is often found through controversy, like race or sex. And so there are people like you who feel that an extension of that controversy is to make fun of Holocaust Survivors. Worst still, is that people want to respect you, and they see you mocking Holocaust Survivors and they want to emulate you. But I'm banking that the CC community isn't so daft as all that. My grandfather was a Norwegian Patriot and an American Hero who fought against the Nazis in any army that would take him. I am terribly sad for what he went through by losing his entire family, and never even knowing their fate. And I cannot imagine what other families went through, but I would be lacking the crucial elements of humanity if I allowed you to insult any of their memories.


Ok, so BBS obviously has no right to tell you how you should deal with your grief, that much is pretty clear.

Regarding the jokes themselves, I'm honestly asking, is anyone actually doing any of the bolded things?

I don't think saying "I did nazi see that coming anne frankly I'm offended" or whatever else stupid puns/references people were making in that thread is making fun of Holocaust survivors and laughing at millions of massacred people. I think they're just stupid puns.

As George Carlin said, every joke needs one exaggeration. It's the nature of the exaggeration that shows the intent of the joke. If the exaggeration is suggesting that the holocaust victims were rightfully slaughtered, or that they deserved it, or whatever, then yes it's reprehensible.

Were, in your opinion, people making those exaggerations ?
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Re: BBS explains why the Holocaust is funny

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:42 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
john9blue wrote:^ agreed, BBS is just trolling you dude. that being said, not every holocaust joke is "insulting the memory" of people who died


Yeah, you're wrong too j9b, as already explained. If I was trolling, I'd simply admit it. I don't have much to lose about being banned.


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Re: BBS explains why the Holocaust is funny

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:44 am

Juan_Bottom wrote:Moron, Stupid, Idiot, Imbecile, etc were once all terms used to describe varying degrees of developmental disabilities. Do 'tons of mentally retarded people' have a problem with those words? Nope.


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Re: BBS explains why the Holocaust is funny

Postby comic boy on Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:51 am

I lived in Israel for a year and never once heard an Israeli tell a Holocaust joke . Plenty of self effacing Jewish and Kosher jokes but nothing about the Holocaust , nothing at all.
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Re: BBS explains why the Holocaust is funny

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:51 pm

comic boy wrote:I lived in Israel for a year and never once heard an Israeli tell a Holocaust joke . Plenty of self effacing Jewish and Kosher jokes but nothing about the Holocaust , nothing at all.


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Re: BBS explains why the Holocaust is funny

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:06 pm

Ok, this is a dumb thread. Sorry juan, but you are just wrong.

Here is the thing about distasteful jokes:
The humour is not in the distasteful thing itself, but rather the incongruity of the punchline.

When people laugh at Holocaust jokes, they are not laughing at the Holocaust, they are laughing at the joke. The only way for your position to be tenable Juan, is if you think the Holocaust is the joke.

Do you think the Holocaust is a joke? I find that deeply disturbing.
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Re: BBS explains why the Holocaust is funny

Postby Gillipig on Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:54 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:EDIT - I just read BBS's post for the third time and I still don't understand how he began an argument as to why the Holocaust was "knee-slapping hilarious." It appears, since you aren't calling anyone else who posted in that Holocaust Movie Name thread out on the carpet, the issue you have with BBS is his telling you what you should or should not be offended by. That is not something I'm supportive of and BBS and I part ways on that, but it appears that you're taking it way too far (but that could be doe-eyed TGD talking).



Hmm, it's not the case that the Holocaust is hilarious; it's the case that there are jokes involving the Holocaust which can be funny. It's a fine distinction which should be noted.

Give us an example then. Shouldn't be too hard to find one of those jokes that you find funny. If you can dig up statistics on obscure topics, finding some holocaust joke shouldn't be too hard.
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Re: BBS explains why the Holocaust is funny

Postby aage on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:10 pm

All jokes except a small fraction of cleverly crafted word play puns are offensive to someone, somewhere. I don't see why any kind of joke would be seen as anti-Semitic. It's a joke. It's not serious.


I for one would love to hear some of them.
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Re: BBS explains why the Holocaust is funny

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:12 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Ok, this is a dumb thread. Sorry juan, but you are just wrong.

Here is the thing about distasteful jokes:
The humour is not in the distasteful thing itself, but rather the incongruity of the punchline.

When people laugh at Holocaust jokes, they are not laughing at the Holocaust, they are laughing at the joke. The only way for your position to be tenable Juan, is if you think the Holocaust is the joke.

Do you think the Holocaust is a joke? I find that deeply disturbing.


This is a fairly common thing. Some white men are so desperate to unburden themselves of their guilt complex that they're furiously digging through their genealogies to see if they can claim outrage at some past injustice so they can join the ranks of the lecturers and leave the ranks of the lectured.

Those who can't find something just declare that they're bisexual.

The convulsions, hysterics and screams of outrage are usually a funny sight, as in this thread. This is basically what's keeping ancestry.com in business.
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