Groups that support child molesters

[thegreekdog]

I believe it to be unfair to associate gays and pedophiles. They are not the same.

I was coming in here to post much the same thing. Maybe bedub can explain why he thinks that gays and pedophiles are similar.

[2dimes]

I believe it to be unfair to associate gays and pedophiles. They are not the same.

I was coming in here to post much the same thing. Maybe bedub can explain why he thinks that gays and pedophiles are similar.

I'd like to reword that but basically agree.

[PLAYER57832]

How many groups support child molesters? I'll start making the list:

NAMBLA
Catholic Church
Boyscouts

Given how much the Catholic Church and the boyscouts hate gays, and how much they claim to hate child molesters, it's funny to see them defending them and protecting them. It's okay to be a gay child molester as long as you are also a priest or scout leader.

Uh, this requires a LOT of explanation.

Why do you seem to think child molesters and homosexuals are the same?

Also, while both groups have been accused of harboring child molesters, I believe that the Boy Scout incidents are fairly isolated and limited to specific areas where, well, jerks were in charge. (I could use harsher words, but am keeping this short and "polite"). The Roman Catholic issues are more a matter of a pervasive culture of lack of understanding about the significance and harm perpetrated by molesters.

I believe the issues with homosexuality in BOTH cases is solely about intolerance, not "harboring"... as if just being gay were something harmful anyway.

[greenoaks]

I believe it to be unfair to associate gays and pedophiles. They are not the same.

I was coming in here to post much the same thing. Maybe bedub can explain why he thinks that gays and pedophiles are similar.

nice sig

there is a difference between working hard and being successful.

[Juan_Bottom]

I can't support the Boy Scouts, they discriminate against Homosexuals and Atheists. I'd like to see them lose their preferred and tax-exempted status until and unless they stop discriminating against minorities. We wouldn't let the KKK rent a high school room for $1 a month, would we?

[jonesthecurl]

I believe it to be unfair to associate gays and pedophiles. They are not the same.

I was coming in here to post much the same thing. Maybe bedub can explain why he thinks that gays and pedophiles are similar.

The suggestion is (please tell me if I'm wrong) that the molestation was of same-sex minors. Thus, both gay and paedophilic.

[greenoaks]

I believe it to be unfair to associate gays and pedophiles. They are not the same.

I was coming in here to post much the same thing. Maybe bedub can explain why he thinks that gays and pedophiles are similar.

The suggestion is (please tell me if I'm wrong) that the molestation was of same-sex minors. Thus, both gay and paedophilic.

weren't the molesters straight ?

[koontz1973]

I believe it to be unfair to associate gays and pedophiles. They are not the same.

I was coming in here to post much the same thing. Maybe bedub can explain why he thinks that gays and pedophiles are similar.

The suggestion is (please tell me if I'm wrong) that the molestation was of same-sex minors. Thus, both gay and paedophilic.

weren't the molesters straight ?

Maybe, maybe not. But not all peados who like little boys, like men. Some are very happily married.

[PLAYER57832]

I can't support the Boy Scouts, they discriminate against Homosexuals and Atheists. I'd like to see them lose their preferred and tax-exempted status until and unless they stop discriminating against minorities. We wouldn't let the KKK rent a high school room for $1 a month, would we?

In many areas they no longer do.

The semi irony is that in abiility to meet in schools and such is one reason churches have opened their doors again.

I am somewhat torn on this one. That is, as a private organization, scouts has the right to make its own decisions -- whether they agree with my personal beliefs or not. On the other hand, I do think the boy scouts (the girl scouts, I believe, have a different position) are bigoted.

The problem is that if the scouts puts forward a position of openly accepting gays, for example, then they will truly be going against what a lot of people believe and want for their kids and it may well mean the end of scouting, at a time when there just are not a lot of alternative organizations. I think the change needs to come, but if it happens before groups are ready, it will basically kill scouting. I would like to see more discussion and debate, more teaching, etc. This is very different from the marriage debate, because scouting is about raising and teaching boys. It very much does involve having other people accept values they dislike. For my part, I see no more problem than in accepting, say, Buddhists or Hindus. ... and certainly think they ought to accept atheists, except that it unfortunately became something of an "easy out" for some requirements. That is, there is a big difference between someone actively and truly choosing atheism and someone just being too lazy to go talk to their local priest and do the church requirements for a particular badge.

[Juan_Bottom]

The girl scouts accept everyone, no questions asked. They even accept boys. Quite honorable I think, ladys. Women lead the way.

The boy scouts never discriminated either, until the organization was bought by the Mormon Church.

I agree with you that as a private organization they should be allowed to do whatever they like. But so long as they are a bigoted organization, they should pay full taxes and not be allowed to use government property without paying for it.

But, individual dens aren't run by the local Mormon Church as yet; they're run by their den leaders. So there are some den's that openly welcome gays and atheists. That's the one redeeming part of this story; individual's love.

[jonesthecurl]

In the UK girls can join the boy scouts. Quite a few do.

[b.k. barunt]

I believe it to be unfair to associate gays and pedophiles. They are not the same.

I was coming in here to post much the same thing. Maybe bedub can explain why he thinks that gays and pedophiles are similar.

The suggestion is (please tell me if I'm wrong) that the molestation was of same-sex minors. Thus, both gay and paedophilic.

How about NAMBLA reps marching in the Gay Parade in New York with a big NAMBLA banner? Unfair to associate gays and pedophiles? What am i missing here?


Honibaz

[Funkyterrance]

I believe it to be unfair to associate gays and pedophiles. They are not the same.

I was coming in here to post much the same thing. Maybe bedub can explain why he thinks that gays and pedophiles are similar.

The suggestion is (please tell me if I'm wrong) that the molestation was of same-sex minors. Thus, both gay and paedophilic.

How about NAMBLA reps marching in the Gay Parade in New York with a big NAMBLA banner? Unfair to associate gays and pedophiles? What am i missing here?


Honibaz

Hehe, this b.k seems to be a mover and a shaker eh?

I don't think there is necessarily an association between pedophiles and gays but the NAMBLA folks marching in the Gay Parade does make one question the Gay Parade group as a whole. If I were marching in any kind of parade and some people from NAMBLA jumped in there might be trouble.
At any rate, my question is whether little boys are molested more often than girls by adult men or is it equal? If it's little boys by men then there could potentially(but not necessarily) be an association.

[daddy1gringo]

2 obvious things that are being ignored;
the acronym NAMBLA stands for north american MAN-BOY love association, so by their own admission it is both pedophilic and homosexual.

We can add the group that organizes the gay pride parade and allowed nambla in to our list of groups that support child molesters.

Hey, BK, good to hear from you.

[Funkyterrance]

2 obvious things that are being ignored;
the acronym NAMBLA stands for north american MAN-BOY love association, so by their own admission it is both pedophilic and homosexual.

Interesting point as it begs the question: "Why isn't there a man-girl love association?".