bedub1 wrote: PLAYER57832 wrote:
bedub1 wrote:How many groups support child molesters? I'll start making the list:
Given how much the Catholic Church and the boyscouts hate gays, and how much they claim to hate child molesters, it's funny to see them defending them and protecting them. It's okay to be a gay child molester as long as you are also a priest or scout leader.
Uh, this requires a LOT of explanation.
Why do you seem to think child molesters and homosexuals are the same?
Also, while both groups have been accused of harboring child molesters, I believe that the Boy Scout incidents are fairly isolated and limited to specific areas where, well, jerks were in charge. (I could use harsher words, but am keeping this short and "polite"). The Roman Catholic issues are more a matter of a pervasive culture of lack of understanding about the significance and harm perpetrated by molesters.
I believe the issues with homosexuality in BOTH cases is solely about intolerance, not "harboring"... as if just being gay were something harmful anyway.
I don't. Which is why I specified they were gay child molesters.
I forgot to include the 4th group, Penn State.
I don't have a problem with homosexuals, I have a problem with child molesters. I don't give a shit if they are straight or homosexual. They sexuality isn't the problem, their child molester behavior is.
Each of these is a different situation, and none of these organizations harbored molesters in the way you imply --pervasive and permissively. SOME, not all of the leadership in each of these cases made very grave errors. The members have not stood up to protect those leaders, but were not necessarily in positions to either know or do anything about either the abuse when it happened or the protective measures taken for the abusers until later.
To blame all members, all associated for this is the crime. It is not a crime or immoral or wrong to continuesupport for organizations that fundamentally don't support abuse, but have been victimized themselves by abusers and leaders who acted inappropriately.
Basically, you are blaming these organizations run by human beings for not being perfect. Sorry, but no organization run by humans will be perfect.