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Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

 
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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby nietzsche on Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:36 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:That's a good point. Tarantino increasingly tries to compensate for lack of talent with controversial subjects/themes. All his stuff is so cheap and obvious but it caters to the masses and therefore popular and sells.



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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby rdsrds2120 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:52 pm

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Funkyterrance wrote:That's a good point. Tarantino increasingly tries to compensate for lack of talent with controversial subjects/themes. All his stuff is so cheap and obvious but it caters to the masses and therefore popular and sells.



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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:09 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:I've always thought he just really likes black and asian culture and stuff that Neoteny said, basically. In Pulp Fiction, you'll notice that Bonnie (Q.T.'s character's wife) is black.

I remember an interview where he's questioned (indirectly by Spike Lee, I think) about using "nigger" in pretty much every film, and his obsession with it. He says something along the lines that as a writer he should be able to write the characters how they are, and not be limited because he's white, and that limiting him because he's white is the heart of racism.

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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby Funkyterrance on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:25 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:(Between you and me, TG, does FunkyT know how to watch movies?)

Cop out.
I used to watch a f***load of movies and my standard may be higher than the average person but if it looks like cheese and it smells like cheese...

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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:50 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:(Between you and me, TG, does FunkyT know how to watch movies?)

Cop out.
I used to watch a f***load of movies and my standard may be higher than the average person but if it looks like cheese and it smells like cheese...

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And Die Hard 4 was teh best, amirite?
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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby Funkyterrance on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:25 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:And Die Hard 4 was teh best, amirite?

Remind me not to come over your house for popcorn& a movie BBS.

Imho most of the better films were made before I was born and the better directors are either washed up or dead. I'm a pretty big Roman Polanski fan but even he has started to lose his touch. Tarantino may look ok when compared to his current peers but his stuff just isn't very enriching or enjoyable imho. To me I suppose his try-hardness overrides anything quality he might try to produce.
I'm sorry but I'm just not capable of altering my taste buds simply because there's nothing but leftovers and pre-packaged shit to choose from.

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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:04 am

Funkyterrance wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:And Die Hard 4 was teh best, amirite?

Remind me not to come over your house for popcorn& a movie BBS.

Imho most of the better films were made before I was born and the better directors are either washed up or dead. I'm a pretty big Roman Polanski fan but even he has started to lose his touch. Tarantino may look ok when compared to his current peers but he's just not very interesting imho.
I'm sorry but I'm just not capable of altering my taste buds simply because there's nothing but leftovers and pre-packaged shit to choose from.

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If you don't like your leftovers, I suggest starting with a cook book. You'll learn how to improvise with experience.

Perhaps some may be turned off by Tarantino because he tends to "rip-off" (or rather "sample") from older films, which in my opinion, is great--but not everyone likes scratching, turntabling, and all that.

<dons a fancy hat, holds a glass of red wine> What would you say are Roman Polanski's three best films?
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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby kentington on Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:11 am

I don't think I have seen any of the movies mentioned. I may need to exit my bubble for a bit.
Are any of them clean? By that I mean no nudity?
Language doesn't bother, although I love the way French sounds.
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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby Army of GOD on Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:15 am

kentington wrote:I don't think I have seen any of the movies mentioned. I may need to exit my bubble for a bit.
Are any of them clean? By that I mean no nudity?
Language doesn't bother, although I love the way French sounds.


I could be wrong but I don't think Tarantino shows a single nipple.

Also I'm sort of disappointed he didn't make a rumored movie about the Vega brothers (Vincent from Pulp and Vick from Resevoir). That would've rocked my socks.
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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby kentington on Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:23 am

Army of GOD wrote:
kentington wrote:I don't think I have seen any of the movies mentioned. I may need to exit my bubble for a bit.
Are any of them clean? By that I mean no nudity?
Language doesn't bother, although I love the way French sounds.


I could be wrong but I don't think Tarantino shows a single nipple.

Also I'm sort of disappointed he didn't make a rumored movie about the Vega brothers (Vincent from Pulp and Vick from Resevoir). That would've rocked my socks.


That would be cool. Then I could probably get some jokes and references I have been missing out on.
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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby Army of GOD on Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:26 am

Watch all of his movies (that he directed) but Death Proof and Four Rooms. Everyone should watch Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction at least once.
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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby nietzsche on Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:13 am

kentington wrote:I don't think I have seen any of the movies mentioned. I may need to exit my bubble for a bit.
Are any of them clean? By that I mean no nudity?
Language doesn't bother, although I love the way French sounds.


Pulp Fiction is a classic. I cannot believe you haven't seen it.

I ask for kentington to be removed of his moderator duties until he has watched it.
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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby Funkyterrance on Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:19 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
<dons a fancy hat, holds a glass of red wine> What would you say are Roman Polanski's three best films?


My level of appreciation for Roman Polanski's films is not merely based on their subtlety and moving nature but in his ability to create, in my opinion, a flawless movie. This requires such a level of artistic vision, chiseling of the film-making process, depth of subject, and a sense of balance, in all areas, that only a truly gifted master of one's craft can obtain it. To make films of this caliber requires an incredible amount of energy combined with natural genius. This is all coming from someone who is extremely critical of cinema, among other things. *wink*
You're causing me to make the difficult choice of only three movies so I will choose on the basis of my own pure enjoyment and their qualification for "flawlessness", in my not-so-humble opinion.

Rosemary's Baby
Chinatown
The 9th Gate (I'm aware this is not a traditional choice, as is not Rosemary's baby, but I feel they are both underrated due to their incorrectly perceived genres. These movies are flawless)
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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:40 am

Army of GOD wrote:Watch all of his movies (that he directed) but Death Proof and Four Rooms. Everyone should watch Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction at least once.


I liked Four Rooms...

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No, I don't believe he does.

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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:43 am

Funkyterrance wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
<dons a fancy hat, holds a glass of red wine> What would you say are Roman Polanski's three best films?


My level of appreciation for Roman Polanski's films is not merely based on their subtlety and moving nature but in his ability to create, in my opinion, a flawless movie. This requires such a level of artistic vision, chiseling of the film-making process, depth of subject, and a sense of balance, in all areas, that only a truly gifted master of one's craft can obtain it. To make films of this caliber requires an incredible amount of energy combined with natural genius. This is all coming from someone who is extremely critical of cinema, among other things. *wink*


Oh, you're talking about this kind of caliber, right?


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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby Symmetry on Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:46 am

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Postby 2dimes on Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:58 am

I'm sad to hear of either the death or status of "Washed up" applied to Harold Ramus and Burt Ward.
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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:59 am

kentington wrote:I don't think I have seen any of the movies mentioned. I may need to exit my bubble for a bit.
Are any of them clean? By that I mean no nudity?
Language doesn't bother, although I love the way French sounds.


Honestly dude, if you're pondering watching a Tarantino film, you shouldn't have a problem with nudity. There isn't any nudity to my knowledge in any of his movies, but your values might be skewed if you'd rather watch gratuitous violence and black humor than a female nipple.

That being said, Pulp Fiction and Resevoir Dogs are best, in that order imo but opinions differ. Jackie Brown is good but a little slower.

Kill Bill 1 & 2 and Inglorious Basterds are good for one watch imo.

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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby Funkyterrance on Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:51 am

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Honestly dude, if you're pondering watching a Tarantino film, you shouldn't have a problem with nudity. There isn't any nudity to my knowledge in any of his movies, but your values might be skewed if you'd rather watch gratuitous violence and black humor than a female nipple.


Aren't you jumping the gun though? Present company tends to have an affect on what one watches. Just because he's pondering watching black humor over nudity doesn't necessarily mean his value system is skewed.
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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:57 am

Violence is much worse than any nudity. Don't care who you are. If you have reservations about portrayals of acts or ideas in movies, then shooting people or ass-raping them (Zed and Maynard) is a hell of a lot worse than a titty or external genitalia shot.

Why I have a problem with American t.v. I find it ridiculously absurd that FCC censors skin (mind you, only areas that make up about 3% of total skin area) or even sexual acts but some guy getting blasted in the face with a gun? Cool.

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Postby 2dimes on Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:37 am

Agrred TG, and it started a long time ago now.

I wonder if bewbs would be as big a deal if they were not suppressed though?

I remember seeing Pulp Fiction in the theater on opening night. Quinten had not become mainstream yet. When Vincent's gun accidently went off I laughed with some of the other people watching, then paused and thought about how jaded we were.

A guy just got splattered and we were laughing.

I suspect if it came out today the theater would be full and nearly everyone would laugh.
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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby KoolBak on Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:07 pm

lmao....and here I thot Canooks were invariably polite / nice :lol:

I also went on opening night; I remember that was the one scene I've ever seen in a theater that literally made me jump out of my seat - surprised the HELL outta me....I recall gasping at the audacity and laughing at the actors' responses to the incident.....that was a shocker.....
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Re: Is Quentin Tarantino racist?

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:19 pm

Don't worry FunkyT. The unwashed masses worship Tarantino because he is the new Opium. Us Ivory Tower folk can go on living in peace.
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Postby 2dimes on Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:23 pm

KoolBak wrote:lmao....and here I thot Canooks were invariably polite / nice :lol:


We/they used to be. It's too bad really to see it go away. Maybe it's because our city is too big but I think it's media. Everyone wants to be gangsters and bronies or what ever.

I watched Braveheart once with two guys I was working with. One of them cringed and turned away closing his eyes when the guy rode a horse in and hit someone with a mace. It was nice to see someone that was not desensitized to violent images.

Just think if no one could stomach being a jerk. "No, no, I insist, after you." "Why thank you, kind sir. Have a terrific day." Now days it catches me off guard when people are polite / nice.
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Postby Funkyterrance on Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:42 pm

2dimes wrote:Just think if no one could stomach being a jerk. "No, no, I insist, after you." "Why thank you, kind sir. Have a terrific day." Now days it catches me off guard when people are polite / nice.

They should start a theme park where it's just ordinary things (stores, restaurants, professionals, etc..) but everyone is really polite and considerate. I might make a weekly tradition out of it if it existed.
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