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Re: Fundamental flaws in the Republican Party

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:56 am

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Re: Fundamental flaws in the Republican Party

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:59 am

thegreekdog wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/03/18/beware_of_the_new_elites_117491.html


I generally agree with it, but crony capitalism is profitable for both political parties. Advertising messages against that status quo is politically suicidal at the moment, so how does one incentivize politicians to 'do the right thing'?
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Re: Fundamental flaws in the Republican Party

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:52 pm

Guillotines.


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Re: Fundamental flaws in the Republican Party

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:12 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Guillotines.


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@ Washington, D.C.

"All in favor of the Guillotines Against Politicians, say Aye."

....

"All oppose, say Nay."


"NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY NAY"


Andy, we need a better name for the Guillotines program!
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Re: Fundamental flaws in the Republican Party

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:40 pm

How about Head Start? Hm, that's taken already...


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Re: Fundamental flaws in the Republican Party

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:47 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/03/18/beware_of_the_new_elites_117491.html


I generally agree with it, but crony capitalism is profitable for both political parties. Advertising messages against that status quo is politically suicidal at the moment, so how does one incentivize politicians to 'do the right thing'?


Ah HA! But, I put it in both threads!
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Re: Fundamental flaws in the Republican Party

Postby Gillipig on Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:19 pm

There are fundamental flaws with the way politics works in general, I wouldn't say one particular party is so much more dysfunctional than the other, we're looking at two rotten apples but only pointing at one of them.
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Re: Fundamental flaws in the Republican Party

Postby tzor on Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:01 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:It is high time we start eliminating the media. Lets just bump the 2nd amendment up a spot.


But we're REPUBLICANS, damn it. We just let natural selection and the free market do its proper work and function.

They will be gone any decade from now; mark my words.
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Re: Fundamental flaws in the Republican Party

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:24 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/03/18/beware_of_the_new_elites_117491.html


I generally agree with it, but crony capitalism is profitable for both political parties. Advertising messages against that status quo is politically suicidal at the moment, so how does one incentivize politicians to 'do the right thing'?


Ah HA! But, I put it in both threads!


I was thinking of posting the same response in both threads, but I didn't.

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Re: Fundamental flaws in the Republican Party

Postby stahrgazer on Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:51 pm

Gillipig wrote:There are fundamental flaws with the way politics works in general, I wouldn't say one particular party is so much more dysfunctional than the other, we're looking at two rotten apples but only pointing at one of them.


No, there's 2 threads.
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Re: Fundamental flaws in the Republican Party

Postby PLAYER57832 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:57 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/03/18/beware_of_the_new_elites_117491.html


I generally agree with it, but crony capitalism is profitable for both political parties. Advertising messages against that status quo is politically suicidal at the moment, so how does one incentivize politicians to 'do the right thing'?


You don't incentivise politiciaons, you teach people. They then vote for the right thing.
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Re: Fundamental flaws in the Republican Party

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:01 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/03/18/beware_of_the_new_elites_117491.html


I generally agree with it, but crony capitalism is profitable for both political parties. Advertising messages against that status quo is politically suicidal at the moment, so how does one incentivize politicians to 'do the right thing'?


You don't incentivise politiciaons, you teach people. They then vote for the right thing.


People with undergrad degrees can still be uninformed.
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Re: Fundamental flaws in the Republican Party

Postby PLAYER57832 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:04 pm

tzor wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:It is high time we start eliminating the media. Lets just bump the 2nd amendment up a spot.


But we're REPUBLICANS, damn it. We just let natural selection and the free market do its proper work and function.

They will be gone any decade from now; mark my words.


The first amendment , the second amendment or the free market?


Regardless, I would agree, though the second amendment bit would be moot.

The problem is that most of what is put forward as "supporting the free market" is really about maintaining current businesses and current business models. It is inherently not about freedom, it is about not changing much.

What this means is that many, many opportunities for innovation, for other ideas are stifled. Oil is favored because not favoring it would be too detrimental... even though we are using it up and there is no ready and easy alternative. We cannot control pollution because the cost is too much and the damage is not quantified until years in the future. We cannot raise the minimum wage or increase social security because it will "harm business" today... but never mind that this means millions of seniors will be left with nothing. (anyone who doesn't save is just not working... never mind that its almost impossible to save for retirement and raise a family on $8 an hour)

Oh yeah... and don't ever forget that "freedom" only applies if you happen to be a white, heterosexual male.
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Re: Fundamental flaws in the Republican Party

Postby PLAYER57832 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:05 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/03/18/beware_of_the_new_elites_117491.html


I generally agree with it, but crony capitalism is profitable for both political parties. Advertising messages against that status quo is politically suicidal at the moment, so how does one incentivize politicians to 'do the right thing'?


You don't incentivise politiciaons, you teach people. They then vote for the right thing.


People with undergrad degrees can still be uninformed.

Yes, so can people with advanced degrees.

Knowing a lot about part of one subject doesn't mean you are universally informed.
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Re: Fundamental flaws in the Republican Party

Postby tzor on Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:25 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
tzor wrote:They will be gone any decade from now; mark my words.


The first amendment , the second amendment or the free market?


The liberally biased main stream media.
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