Gun Control

[thegreekdog]

I'm sure PS can find a chart showing a correlation between gun crimes and voting patterns that is better than this.

Here's what I've found. I can do better if you really want.

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/politi ... orld/4412/

New Orelans - 62.1 gun murders per 100,000 people
Detroit - 35.9 (Democratic mayors from about 1962 to 2013)
Newark - 25.4
Miami - 23.7
Washington, D.C. 19
Atlanta - 17.2 (Democratic mayors from 1885 (yes 1885) to 2013
Cleveland - 17.4 (Democratic mayors from 1989 to 2013)
Buffalo - 16.5 (Democratic mayors from 1966 to 2013)
Houston - 12.9 (Democratic mayors from 1921 to 2013)
Chicago - 11.6 (Democratic mayors from 1931 to 2013)
Phoenix - 10.6
Los Angeles - 9.2 (Democratic mayors from 2001 to 2013)
Boston - 6.2 (Democractic mayors from 1910 to 2013)

[Woodruff]

I'm sure by now many of you have heard about the 8th grader arrested for wearing an NRA shirt to school (yeah right... )

I actually hadn't heard about this.

Disciplined 8th-grader Jared Marcum returned to class on Monday after being suspended from school and arrested for refusing to change his NRA t-shirt at the request of one of his teachers. The shirt apparently pictured a firearm and the words “protect your rights.”

That's kinda dumb. How do they justify it? Just that it's "offensive"? I mean, I know our school has rules against someone wearing clothing that has swear words on it or that seems to promote killing (I don't know the exact words), but I don't see how a shirt by that description would be considered even offensive.

Actually, from the stories I have read, it seems like it wasn't "the school" as much as it was one teacher.

One teacher doesn't get a student arrested.

Apparently (according to students interviewed), this is one of those teachers that actively brainwashes the students with leftism, and also has some pull in the school being one of the more active members of the teachers union, and a huge Obama supporter. It actually makes perfect sense when you look at it on an individual level.

Fascinating how you manage to try to tie in Obama AND being active in the teacher's union. You just have no shame at all, do you? Get back with me when you actually want to discuss the issue involved instead of trying to demonize everything you disagree with.

[Phatscotty]

Except it's true...(fascinating isn't it?!?!) one teacher did get a student arrested. At this point, you might want to read the story, so that you know what you are talking about. The information I shared came from students at the school...not me Woody. I for the life of me cannot understand your confusion here

Same old Woodruff...strong opinions based on ZERO knowledge

[Woodruff]

Except it's true...(fascinating isn't it?!?!) one teacher did get a student arrested. At this point, you might want to read the story, so that you know what you are talking about

I did a websearch and didn't find anything. Got a link other than a dumbass video? Perhaps something from the authorities?

Same old Woodruff...strong opinions based on ZERO knowledge

I know you've never been one to have an interest in irony, but how it doesn't slap you in the face, I will never understand.

[Phatscotty]

Except it's true...(fascinating isn't it?!?!) one teacher did get a student arrested. At this point, you might want to read the story, so that you know what you are talking about

I did a websearch and didn't find anything. Got a link other than a dumbass video?

Same old Woodruff...strong opinions based on ZERO knowledge

I know you've never been one to have an interest in irony, but how it doesn't slap you in the face, I will never understand.

You just admitted you don't have any information. Tell me where your strong opinions come from again?

[Woodruff]

Except it's true...(fascinating isn't it?!?!) one teacher did get a student arrested. At this point, you might want to read the story, so that you know what you are talking about

I did a websearch and didn't find anything. Got a link other than a dumbass video?

Same old Woodruff...strong opinions based on ZERO knowledge

I know you've never been one to have an interest in irony, but how it doesn't slap you in the face, I will never understand.

You just admitted you don't have any information. Tell me where your strong opinions come from again?

So far, I've only been able to form my opinions based on the idiocy you've spewed. I've asked you for more information, and yet you've been unwilling to provide it.

And yet, even given that, you're dumb enough to take me to task for basing my opinion on the information you've provided and your unwillingness to provide more.

I've often wondered what it would be like to have an invertebrate for a pet. Dealing with you is helping me to understand.

[ooge]

So the founding fathers also created the electoral college a antiquated system today,but I believe they thought they needed it because they did not trust the peons to vote correctly,leaving the ruling class the ability to overturn the vote.and we are meant to believe that if they were around today they would think it was just great that any American can buy 30 ammo clips and military style guns.I think Not.

[Phatscotty]

Except it's true...(fascinating isn't it?!?!) one teacher did get a student arrested. At this point, you might want to read the story, so that you know what you are talking about

I did a websearch and didn't find anything. Got a link other than a dumbass video?

Same old Woodruff...strong opinions based on ZERO knowledge

I know you've never been one to have an interest in irony, but how it doesn't slap you in the face, I will never understand.

You just admitted you don't have any information. Tell me where your strong opinions come from again?

So far, I've only been able to form my opinions based on the idiocy you've spewed. I've asked you for more information, and yet you've been unwilling to provide it.

And yet, even given that, you're dumb enough to take me to task for basing my opinion on the information you've provided and your unwillingness to provide more.

I've often wondered what it would be like to have an invertebrate for a pet. Dealing with you is helping me to understand.

this is interesting. Let's explore the source of your doubts for a second before I provide the information you have already judged and commented on...

Is it that you think a Conservative teacher freaked out over and NRA shirt? Why do you think that?
Is is that you think 9 out of 10 faculty members at any given school vote Conservative? Why do you think that?

[Phatscotty]

So the founding fathers also created the electoral college a antiquated system today,but I believe they thought they needed it because they did not trust the peons to vote correctly,leaving the ruling class the ability to overturn the vote.and we are meant to believe that if they were around today they would think it was just great that any American can buy 30 ammo clips and military style guns.I think Not.

What do you base those thoughts on?

[Woodruff]

Except it's true...(fascinating isn't it?!?!) one teacher did get a student arrested. At this point, you might want to read the story, so that you know what you are talking about.

Ok, I've found a link. According to the story, the student was arrested because he "was disrupting the school process" (per the city police chief), NOT because he was wearing an NRA t-shirt and not because "one teacher got the student arrested".

Now, I'll be the first to say that I think the band teacher was out of line in making such a scene and is equally at fault. He disrupted the school process as much as the student did by handling it in a ham-handed manner.

The information I shared came from students at the school...not me Woody.

I'm sure they wouldn't be biased, of course.

[Woodruff]

Except it's true...(fascinating isn't it?!?!) one teacher did get a student arrested. At this point, you might want to read the story, so that you know what you are talking about

I did a websearch and didn't find anything. Got a link other than a dumbass video?

Same old Woodruff...strong opinions based on ZERO knowledge

I know you've never been one to have an interest in irony, but how it doesn't slap you in the face, I will never understand.

You just admitted you don't have any information. Tell me where your strong opinions come from again?

So far, I've only been able to form my opinions based on the idiocy you've spewed. I've asked you for more information, and yet you've been unwilling to provide it.

And yet, even given that, you're dumb enough to take me to task for basing my opinion on the information you've provided and your unwillingness to provide more.

I've often wondered what it would be like to have an invertebrate for a pet. Dealing with you is helping me to understand.

this is interesting. Let's explore the source of your doubts for a second before I provide the information you have already judged and commented on...

Is it that you think a Conservative teacher freaked out over and NRA shirt? Why do you think that?
Is is that you think 9 out of 10 faculty members at any given school vote Conservative? Why do you think that?

Would it really be so difficult for you to just provide the information instead of continuing to act like a weasel? I mean, seriously...you're about as weak-minded of a "debater" as I've ever seen.

It's like you're fucking allergic to the truth or honesty.

[Phatscotty]

Except it's true...(fascinating isn't it?!?!) one teacher did get a student arrested. At this point, you might want to read the story, so that you know what you are talking about

I did a websearch and didn't find anything. Got a link other than a dumbass video?

Same old Woodruff...strong opinions based on ZERO knowledge

I know you've never been one to have an interest in irony, but how it doesn't slap you in the face, I will never understand.

You just admitted you don't have any information. Tell me where your strong opinions come from again?

So far, I've only been able to form my opinions based on the idiocy you've spewed. I've asked you for more information, and yet you've been unwilling to provide it.

And yet, even given that, you're dumb enough to take me to task for basing my opinion on the information you've provided and your unwillingness to provide more.

I've often wondered what it would be like to have an invertebrate for a pet. Dealing with you is helping me to understand.

this is interesting. Let's explore the source of your doubts for a second before I provide the information you have already judged and commented on...

Is it that you think a Conservative teacher freaked out over and NRA shirt? Why do you think that?
Is is that you think 9 out of 10 faculty members at any given school vote Conservative? Why do you think that?

Would it really be so difficult for you to just provide the information instead of continuing to act like a weasel? I mean, seriously...you're about as weak-minded of a "debater" as I've ever seen.

It's like you're fucking allergic to the truth or honesty.

Is it really so difficult for you to explain your post?

[Woodruff]

So far, I've only been able to form my opinions based on the idiocy you've spewed. I've asked you for more information, and yet you've been unwilling to provide it.

And yet, even given that, you're dumb enough to take me to task for basing my opinion on the information you've provided and your unwillingness to provide more.

I've often wondered what it would be like to have an invertebrate for a pet. Dealing with you is helping me to understand.

this is interesting. Let's explore the source of your doubts for a second before I provide the information you have already judged and commented on...

Is it that you think a Conservative teacher freaked out over and NRA shirt? Why do you think that?
Is is that you think 9 out of 10 faculty members at any given school vote Conservative? Why do you think that?

Would it really be so difficult for you to just provide the information instead of continuing to act like a weasel? I mean, seriously...you're about as weak-minded of a "debater" as I've ever seen.

It's like you're fucking allergic to the truth or honesty.

Is it really so difficult for you to explain your post?

Which part does your dumb ass need explained?

[Phatscotty]

So far, I've only been able to form my opinions based on the idiocy you've spewed. I've asked you for more information, and yet you've been unwilling to provide it.

And yet, even given that, you're dumb enough to take me to task for basing my opinion on the information you've provided and your unwillingness to provide more.

I've often wondered what it would be like to have an invertebrate for a pet. Dealing with you is helping me to understand.

this is interesting. Let's explore the source of your doubts for a second before I provide the information you have already judged and commented on...

Is it that you think a Conservative teacher freaked out over and NRA shirt? Why do you think that?
Is is that you think 9 out of 10 faculty members at any given school vote Conservative? Why do you think that?

Would it really be so difficult for you to just provide the information instead of continuing to act like a weasel? I mean, seriously...you're about as weak-minded of a "debater" as I've ever seen.

It's like you're fucking allergic to the truth or honesty.

Is it really so difficult for you to explain your post?

Which part does your dumb ass need explained?

fyi: Only dumb people call other people dumb. Smart people just sit back and laugh

[Woodruff]

So far, I've only been able to form my opinions based on the idiocy you've spewed. I've asked you for more information, and yet you've been unwilling to provide it.

And yet, even given that, you're dumb enough to take me to task for basing my opinion on the information you've provided and your unwillingness to provide more.

I've often wondered what it would be like to have an invertebrate for a pet. Dealing with you is helping me to understand.

this is interesting. Let's explore the source of your doubts for a second before I provide the information you have already judged and commented on...

Is it that you think a Conservative teacher freaked out over and NRA shirt? Why do you think that?
Is is that you think 9 out of 10 faculty members at any given school vote Conservative? Why do you think that?

Would it really be so difficult for you to just provide the information instead of continuing to act like a weasel? I mean, seriously...you're about as weak-minded of a "debater" as I've ever seen.

It's like you're fucking allergic to the truth or honesty.

Is it really so difficult for you to explain your post?

Which part does your dumb ass need explained?

fyi: Only dumb people call other people dumb.

That is an absolutely brilliant piece of bullshit.

Smart people just sit back and laugh

Don't worry, I'm laughing at you too, dumbass.

[Phatscotty]

No, you are acting like a foul mouthed little brat, making repeated insults on a topic you don't know anything about.

Is that how an intelligent person acts? Or is that how a fool acts?

And you wonder why I would rather just ignore you...

[Woodruff]

No, you are acting like a foul mouthed little brat, making repeated insults on a topic you don't know anything about.

Actually, I DO now know about the topic, no thanks to your integrity-allergic ass. I stated that quite clearly, in fact.

Is that how an intelligent person acts? Or is that how a fool acts?

Frequently, an intelligent person will have no patience with an intentional liar. Frequently, a fool will put up with their shit.

And you wonder why I would rather just ignore you...

I don't wonder about it, actually. In fact, I have frequently stated the reason, which is the fact that you simply can't answer the questions I pose to you, so you find it easier to ignore them.

Your dumb ass apparently doesn't even realize that I agreed with you in general on this issue, because you're too busy acting like a dumbass. Stop wearing your ass for a hat, Phatscotty.

[comic boy]

No, you are acting like a foul mouthed little brat, making repeated insults on a topic you don't know anything about.

Is that how an intelligent person acts? Or is that how a fool acts?

And you wonder why I would rather just ignore you...

If you wanted to ignore him you would put him on foe , its the questions you ignore not the questioner , same as it ever was

[Phatscotty]

No, you are acting like a foul mouthed little brat, making repeated insults on a topic you don't know anything about.

Is that how an intelligent person acts? Or is that how a fool acts?

And you wonder why I would rather just ignore you...

If you wanted to ignore him you would put him on foe , its the questions you ignore not the questioner , same as it ever was

Just wait until you have your own stalker!

I only gave him a 24 hour pass. Looks like he flamed the most of it. But yes he is going back on foe now. I don't have to conversate with foul mouth kids who don't even want to talk about the issues anyways.

BOOM!

[Woodruff]

No, you are acting like a foul mouthed little brat, making repeated insults on a topic you don't know anything about.

Is that how an intelligent person acts? Or is that how a fool acts?

And you wonder why I would rather just ignore you...

If you wanted to ignore him you would put him on foe , its the questions you ignore not the questioner , same as it ever was

Just wait until you have your own stalker!

I only gave him a 24 hour pass. Looks like he flamed the most of it. But yes he is going back on foe now. I don't have to conversate with foul mouth kids who don't even want to talk about the issues anyways.

The irony must be physically painful.

On the plus side, that's #10!

Coward.

[rdsrds2120]

Stepping back in: please lower the discourse, gentlemen! This is not how a healthy thread should be.

BMO

[Lootifer]

Def needs more rainbows and kittens.

[thegreekdog]

Stepping back in: please lower the discourse, gentlemen! This is not how a healthy thread should be.

BMO

STOP MODERATING AND ANSWER MY well thought-out and cogent POST!

[rdsrds2120]

Stepping back in: please lower the discourse, gentlemen! This is not how a healthy thread should be.

BMO

STOP MODERATING AND ANSWER MY well thought-out and cogent POST!

WHICH ONE, DAGGUMMIT!?

BMO

[thegreekdog]

This one. Wow... there sure were a lot of "Phatscotty is a troll" and "Woodruff is stalking me" posts.

I'm sure PS can find a chart showing a correlation between gun crimes and voting patterns that is better than this.

Here's what I've found. I can do better if you really want.

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/politi ... orld/4412/

New Orelans - 62.1 gun murders per 100,000 people
Detroit - 35.9 (Democratic mayors from about 1962 to 2013)
Newark - 25.4
Miami - 23.7
Washington, D.C. 19
Atlanta - 17.2 (Democratic mayors from 1885 (yes 1885) to 2013
Cleveland - 17.4 (Democratic mayors from 1989 to 2013)
Buffalo - 16.5 (Democratic mayors from 1966 to 2013)
Houston - 12.9 (Democratic mayors from 1921 to 2013)
Chicago - 11.6 (Democratic mayors from 1931 to 2013)
Phoenix - 10.6
Los Angeles - 9.2 (Democratic mayors from 2001 to 2013)
Boston - 6.2 (Democractic mayors from 1910 to 2013)

I tend to think there is a causation link, but there is at least a correlation between high rates of gun violence and Democratic constituents, voters, and politicians. At least that's my take.