comic boy wrote: thegreekdog wrote: ooge wrote: Night Strike wrote: ooge wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:Analogous thinking can be misleading.
So can blindly following and Ideology
Do people have the right to protect themselves? The right to life?
Life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness. your life my life are more important then your liberty my liberty...that is why the founders put it in that order. I cant take credit for this idea a father of a slain child from Newtown said it.
If only it was a crime to shoot people...
Serious question , in cases of accidental firearm deaths do people in the USA ever get prosecuted for manslaughter or something similar. Also are there laws protecting the families of gun owners , I know children have been killed whilst playing with firearms , are the parents ever prosecuted for neglect.
Short answer - yes to the first question; I don't know to the second question (but would assume yes). Further on the second question, if a child is accidentally killed due to firearm security neglect, the parent has received an exceedingly harsh punishment already.
As to the issue at hand, and as I've indicated in prior threads...
(1) Gun control, as it is currently being proposed, is constitutional (under the TGD intepretation of the Constitution - the Second Amendment protects groups, not individuals). Even if not under the TGD interpretation, it is still constitutional, much like the bans on bazookas and machine guns.
(2) The most serious bill in Congress right now would do virtually nothing to protect against gun violence in the United States (it doesn't ban hand guns, by far the most used weapon for homicides), would not stop mass shootings (as indicated in the previous Assault Weapons Ban, the weapons can be modified to shoot the exact same way... they just look less scary), and ultimately does not solve the inherent problem with gun violence - the people doing the shooting (just like drunk driving, for example).
(3) I'm extremely annoyed at both the gun control advocates and the gun advocates. There is no bill in Congress that would affect anyone (gun ownership or future gun victim) in any substantial way and this debate (in Congress and in the public) is a complete waste of time and energy.