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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby Gillipig on Tue May 14, 2013 2:51 pm

betiko wrote:so what happens to theon's penis? the poor fool has been taking lots of wrong decisions.

what will happen when jaimie gets to king's landing with brienne?
1. no way they will let sansa go now that she is promissed to tyrion
2. i don't think the hound is comming back to king's landing with arya
3. not sure tywin will be happy to see his favourite child without his sword hand
4. not sure cersei will apreciate brienne as she will notice that jaimie has some kind of feelings for her
5. brienne will not apreciatetoo much if jaimie doesn't keep his promise
6. i think that jaimie respects enough brienne to try to keep his promise and will be facing tywin's decision
7. badass conflict between tywin and jaimie

I might be anticipating a little here, but that's what all this made me think of...

Also things ain't looking too good for gundry. that precious blood will be needed for the lord of light!

daenerys has gone completely stupid this episode. who can be the super allies of these guys? my guess is that it's the badass guys from volantis.

Gendry, not Gundry lol. I could give you a ton of book spoilers related to your bullet points. And I must admit it's itching a bit in my fingers but I hold it back for your sake betiko :).
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby betiko on Tue May 14, 2013 6:08 pm

Well thanks gillipig, I know the feeling when you badly want to say it! ;)
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby strike wolf on Thu May 16, 2013 3:53 pm

What are the chances that Jaime to fulfill his promise offers to marry Sansa instead of Tyrion? Not likely I suppose but possible.
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby betiko on Fri May 17, 2013 9:43 am

strike wolf wrote:What are the chances that Jaime to fulfill his promise offers to marry Sansa instead of Tyrion? Not likely I suppose but possible.


Sansa is such a dirty slut. Joffrey, loras, tyrion, now Jaimie? Why not tywin? :lol:
How would that fulfill his promise of returning the 2 stark girls though by marrying Sansa? Also isn't he unallowed to marry and have offspring?

Also I guess Robb about to attack castlery rock isn't going to help Jaimie for keeping his promise. I guess Robb s attack will happen more or less when Jaimie reaches king s landing. This Sunday?
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby strike wolf on Fri May 17, 2013 9:55 am

It wouldn't be a perfect plan and I doubt it would go through even if he suggested it but without the obligation to marry Loras or Tyrion, Jaime could probably take her away from Kings Landing and have her delivered to The Starks. I thought the not allowed to marry was just a Nights Watch thing.
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby Bones2484 on Fri May 17, 2013 10:11 am

strike wolf wrote:It wouldn't be a perfect plan and I doubt it would go through even if he suggested it but without the obligation to marry Loras or Tyrion, Jaime could probably take her away from Kings Landing and have her delivered to The Starks. I thought the not allowed to marry was just a Nights Watch thing.


Nope. Kingsguard cannot marry and gives up their claims on land as well. Remember the conversation Tyrion had with Tywin about how he has the claim to Casterly Rock because Jaime gave it up?

betiko wrote:I guess Robb s attack will happen more or less when Jaimie reaches king s landing. This Sunday?


Considering we haven't even seen Robb forge an alliance with the Freys yet...? Don't forget that they need to have a wedding up at The Twins (Frey's castle) before any other battles for Robb can even be discussed. They (Robb and the Tully's from Riverrun and Roose Bolton from Harrenhall) are all headed north for the wedding, the opposite direction of Casterly Rock.
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby betiko on Fri May 17, 2013 12:21 pm

Oh and I forgot littlefinger in my list of Sansa pretenders....

But is Bolton administrating officially harenhall? I m getting a bit confused here; at some point tywin had harenhall (when Arya was his servant) and I don t remember any fight or conversation from the Starks saying they took it back... And tywin gives harenhall to littlefinger, so he thinks his forces still have it? There is something confusing me here..

Also Bolton seems all but trustworthy. It seems like he has an oath with the Starks but that he thinks they don t really stand a chance with their rebellion and is preparing for that..
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby kizkiz on Fri May 17, 2013 12:26 pm

Harrenahall was taken by tywin.
He left it with his troops, but they were betrayed by the bloody mummers.
They gave it to bolton when they switched sides.
Bolton has left the mummers in harrenahll as he marches north
Little finger has been given it by the king, but in name only, as it is currently occupied by the enemy

I think that's right from memory :lol:
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby betiko on Fri May 17, 2013 12:44 pm

kizkiz wrote:Harrenahall was taken by tywin.
He left it with his troops, but they were betrayed by the bloody mummers.
They gave it to bolton when they switched sides.
Bolton has left the mummers in harrenahll as he marches north
Little finger has been given it by the king, but in name only, as it is currently occupied by the enemy

I think that's right from memory :lol:



The mummers? :? Who are they? I might know them with a different name... That s from the book but we never saw it in the show right?

Also isn't littlefinger about to leave for harenhall? His departure seemed quite imminent to me..
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby kizkiz on Fri May 17, 2013 1:48 pm

betiko wrote:
kizkiz wrote:Harrenahall was taken by tywin.
He left it with his troops, but they were betrayed by the bloody mummers.
They gave it to bolton when they switched sides.
Bolton has left the mummers in harrenahll as he marches north
Little finger has been given it by the king, but in name only, as it is currently occupied by the enemy

I think that's right from memory :lol:



The mummers? :? Who are they? I might know them with a different name... That s from the book but we never saw it in the show right?

Also isn't littlefinger about to leave for harenhall? His departure seemed quite imminent to me..


Umm, not seen series 3.
Their leader is vargo hoat. Bunch of sellswords that tywin employed.
They are rather depraved
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby Bones2484 on Fri May 17, 2013 2:32 pm

Littlefinger is going to the Eyrie, the home of House Arryn. You also saw his boat sailing away right after Sansa learned of her wedding to Tyrion (where she was crying while looking at it).

The Mummers are the guys who captured Brienne and Jaime. They are a group of sellswords lead by Vargo Hoat (I forget his name in the show... Locke?). Chopped off Jaime's hand... put Brienne in the bear pit.
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby betiko on Fri May 17, 2013 3:13 pm

Bones2484 wrote:Littlefinger is going to the Eyrie, the home of House Arryn. You also saw his boat sailing away right after Sansa learned of her wedding to Tyrion (where she was crying while looking at it).

The Mummers are the guys who captured Brienne and Jaime. They are a group of sellswords lead by Vargo Hoat (I forget his name in the show... Locke?). Chopped off Jaime's hand... put Brienne in the bear pit.


Ok, pretty sure they ve never been called like that in the show. Pretty sure they never appear in harenhall during tywin s stay either ( but I can be wrong about that, they would ve been very very minor characters in season 2) yes true baelish is going to eyrie. What if tywin had sticked to his first decision of marrying baelish to Sansa?

So actually there is a double wedding among the tully... Black fish, catlyn and her brother don t seem to be aware that their sister will marry baelish though. We haven t seen lady arryn s reaction, and we don t know yet the history between her and petyr... Given that they grew up together.
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby Bones2484 on Fri May 17, 2013 3:16 pm

betiko wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:Littlefinger is going to the Eyrie, the home of House Arryn. You also saw his boat sailing away right after Sansa learned of her wedding to Tyrion (where she was crying while looking at it).

The Mummers are the guys who captured Brienne and Jaime. They are a group of sellswords lead by Vargo Hoat (I forget his name in the show... Locke?). Chopped off Jaime's hand... put Brienne in the bear pit.


Ok, pretty sure they ve never been called like that in the show. Pretty sure they never appear in harenhall during tywin s stay either ( but I can be wrong about that, they would ve been very very minor characters in season 2) yes true baelish is going to eyrie. What if tywin had sticked to his first decision of marrying baelish to Sansa?

So actually there is a double wedding among the tully... Black fish, catlyn and her brother don t seem to be aware that their sister will marry baelish though. We haven t seen lady arryn s reaction, and we don t know yet the history between her and petyr... Given that they grew up together.


You're right. They were never called the Bloody Mummers in the show. And I also don't believe that they were portrayed with Tywin. The show makes it looks like they are part of the Stark army as opposed to a disgusting group of sellswords that has changed sides.

No one (except for the small council) knows about Baelish's plans to marry Lady Arryn. I'm not even sure she knows about it yet at this point. He sold it to the council as "I will go to the Eyrie and convince her". They have PLENTY of history, though...
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby kizkiz on Fri May 17, 2013 3:54 pm

Bones2484 wrote:The Mummers are the guys who captured Brienne and Jaime. They are a group of sellswords lead by Vargo Hoat (I forget his name in the show... Locke?). Chopped off Jaime's hand... put Brienne in the bear pit.


That was the obvious way to describe them, but didn't want to post in case it was a spoiler
Series 1 was very true to the book
Series 2 only had a few differences.
Series 3 seems to be all over the place ....missing characters, name changes and complete re-writes 8-[
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby betiko on Fri May 17, 2013 3:58 pm

so you agree that for the people just watching the show the whole harrenhall situation isn't explained clearly? bolton and his men just happen to be in harrenhall, we don't even know why.

didn't realize that petyr baelish aka littlefinger is just going like that to eyrie, uninvited, unanounced and simply to marry the queen of the castle! :lol:
Also it was his idea and not tywin's?? I thought that baelish was kind of holding to the idea of marrying Sansa until tywin told him he would marry lady arryn.. (so many "y"s in all those names gosh) all these stuff aren't really shown in the show.
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Postby kizkiz on Fri May 17, 2013 4:06 pm

betiko wrote:so you agree that for the people just watching the show the whole harrenhall situation isn't explained clearly? bolton and his men just happen to be in harrenhall, we don't even know why.

didn't realize that petyr baelish aka littlefinger is just going like that to eyrie, uninvited, unanounced and simply to marry the queen of the castle! :lol:
Also it was his idea and not tywin's?? I thought that baelish was kind of holding to the idea of marrying Sansa until tywin told him he would marry lady arryn.. (so many "y"s in all those names gosh) all these stuff aren't really shown in the show.


Even in the book he simply disappears off to marry lysa without any kind of contact. Twas all his own idea.
Harrenahll was as i said. Treachery by the mummers to let Bolton in and take it from Tywins men
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby Bones2484 on Fri May 17, 2013 5:33 pm

betiko wrote:so you agree that for the people just watching the show the whole harrenhall situation isn't explained clearly? bolton and his men just happen to be in harrenhall, we don't even know why.


Well... it was explained, just might not have seen the relevance of it. We did see Tywin leave and we did see Robb and his men enter a short time later.

If you remember, Robb and company traveled to Harrenhall expecting a fight at the beginning of this season. When they got there they just found it empty with a bunch of Northeners dead (and Maester Qyburn barely alive). Robb then left Bolton in charge and went back to Riverrun. The show never explained the Bloody Mummers and where they came from, they just "appeared" in an episode where they captured Brienne/Jaime and brought them back to Harrenhall.

But as Kizkiz said, in the books it happens differently.
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Postby Bones2484 on Sun May 19, 2013 10:31 pm

That was a great episode.

Hooray Sam the Slayer lives!
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby betiko on Mon May 20, 2013 8:30 am

Bones2484 wrote:That was a great episode.

Hooray Sam the Slayer lives!


sam that fat bastard idiot. is it me or did he not pick up the magic dagger after stabbing that white walker? and wasn't it the white walker leader?

interesting character that daenerys has encountered. he isn't from braavos rght, it's another of the captains that he killed that was from braavos? also when the lord of yunkai had powerfull allies was he refering to them or to some other kingdoms?
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby Symmetry on Mon May 20, 2013 8:34 am

betiko wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:That was a great episode.

Hooray Sam the Slayer lives!


sam that fat bastard idiot. is it me or did he not pick up the magic dagger after stabbing that white walker? and wasn't it the white walker leader?

interesting character that daenerys has encountered. he isn't from braavos rght, it's another of the captains that he killed that was from braavos? also when the lord of yunkai had powerfull allies was he refering to them or to some other kingdoms?


I thought he left it too.
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby Bones2484 on Mon May 20, 2013 9:48 am

betiko wrote:also when the lord of yunkai had powerfull allies was he refering to them or to some other kingdoms?


He was referring to them.
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby betiko on Tue May 21, 2013 5:35 am

i've heard a friend telling me that he wonders how the hell are they going to make the entire finish of the book 3 in those last 2 episodes, and that basically after 8 episodes we're halfway through the book. The more I think about it, the more I feel like buying the books and start reading them.. If I do should I start back from AGOT, or should I guy directly, the book 4?
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby kizkiz on Tue May 21, 2013 9:53 am

Start from the first book
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby Symmetry on Tue May 21, 2013 10:51 am

betiko wrote:i've heard a friend telling me that he wonders how the hell are they going to make the entire finish of the book 3 in those last 2 episodes, and that basically after 8 episodes we're halfway through the book. The more I think about it, the more I feel like buying the books and start reading them.. If I do should I start back from AGOT, or should I guy directly, the book 4?


This season is only supposed to cover the first half of book 3 (give or take). Also, what kizkiz said.
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