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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:57 pm

aage wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:
aage wrote:Oh, you kids are in for such a treat... I am almost jealous of you.


I've read the books, I know who it is... though I wasn't positive until that last arrow. Just trying to take part in the discussions without needing to add a spoiler tag (or telling them what castle they are at since show watchers do not know yet).

You little bastard. :D
I had the hunch when he rescued him. At first I thought it could be Reek, but then Theon'd have said something about that so it just had to be him.

And show watchers should be able to know. Roose Bolton sent his son out to Winterfell on Robb's orders to take Theon, and so they did. They were the guys with the hornblower. Where else were they going to go but home? Stay in the ruin? They burned the place down. Brienne and Jaime are fleeing from Robb's army (which is anywhere between the Twins and Riverrun) to King's Landing, which is leagues away.

We should make a book thread.


We should definitely make a book thread. I have some theories and I can't espouse them here.

In semi-related news, it's fun to mess with people IRL who haven't read the books - like my boss.
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby betiko on Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:05 pm

aage wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:
aage wrote:Oh, you kids are in for such a treat... I am almost jealous of you.


I've read the books, I know who it is... though I wasn't positive until that last arrow. Just trying to take part in the discussions without needing to add a spoiler tag (or telling them what castle they are at since show watchers do not know yet).

You little bastard. :D
I had the hunch when he rescued him. At first I thought it could be Reek, but then Theon'd have said something about that so it just had to be him.

And show watchers should be able to know. Roose Bolton sent his son out to Winterfell on Robb's orders to take Theon, and so they did. They were the guys with the hornblower. Where else were they going to go but home? Stay in the ruin? They burned the place down. Brienne and Jaime are fleeing from Robb's army (which is anywhere between the Twins and Riverrun) to King's Landing, which is leagues away.

We should make a book thread.


yup, book thread you spoiler! (you are the only one, all other book readers know how to keep stuff quiet! ;) although I don't care to be told more about the ned/robert/aerys/tywin stuff of the previous generation, I don't want to be spoiled the rest of the show!!! :P )

Other than this, I thought that the guys who caught jamie/brienne were baron bolton's guys as well. Didn't they say they were men of on of stark's baron? and who cares if they are miles away, as far as I know the starks are all over westeros at this moment.
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby aage on Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:43 am

betiko wrote:Other than this, I thought that the guys who caught jamie/brienne were baron bolton's guys as well. Didn't they say they were men of on of stark's baron? and who cares if they are miles away, as far as I know the starks are all over westeros at this moment.

I was saying Theon and Jaime/Brienne are miles away from each other. ;) And yes, they are Bolton's men, but Roose Bolton isn't with Robb in Riverrun. He was ordered to stay behind and hold Harrenhal.

Seriously, this is all in the show.

And I try to be thoughtful, most of what isn't in the show yet is between spoiler tags.
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:56 am

Spoilier:


Everyone dies at the end.
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby aage on Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:00 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:Spoilier:


Everyone dies at the end.

Dude, at least put it between spoiler tags.

You ruined my day, thanks a lot.
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby Symmetry on Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:21 am

aage wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:Spoilier:


Everyone dies at the end.

Dude, at least put it between spoiler tags.

You ruined my day, thanks a lot.


I was like, two books into the Bible when some idiot knocked on my door, totally out of the blue, and told me the ending.
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby betiko on Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:43 am

lol!

ok guys here's a question: why do we say that westeros has 7 kingdoms?? I count 9 if not 10, one of which has still not been metioned a single time and I think it's quite odd.
Starks, lannisters, baratheons, arryns, targaryens, tyrells, tullys, greyjoys (not counted?), martels (never mentionned yet but they seem to have all the south), and frey (this is probably not a kingdom, just a toll passage land?)
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby aage on Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:47 am

Aegon named his empire after the seven kingdoms that he subdued: the Iron Islands (currently Greyjoy) which was one kingdom with the riverlands (Tully), the Northlands (Stark), the Vale (Arryn), the Westerlands (Lannister), the Reach (Tyrell), the Stormlands (Baratheon) and Dorne (Martell) which was added later: when the Targaryens conquered "the seven kingdoms", they failed to conquer Dorne.
Freys used to be bannermen to Riverrun. Think of them as Boltons, or Karstarks.
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby betiko on Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:08 am

aage wrote:Aegon named his empire after the seven kingdoms that he subdued: the Iron Islands (currently Greyjoy) which was one kingdom with the riverlands (Tully), the Northlands (Stark), the Vale (Arryn), the Westerlands (Lannister), the Reach (Tyrell), the Stormlands (Baratheon) and Dorne (Martell) which was added later: when the Targaryens conquered "the seven kingdoms", they failed to conquer Dorne.
Freys used to be bannermen to Riverrun. Think of them as Boltons, or Karstarks.


here's what they say on wiki though:

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The Seven Kingdoms, as they stood after unification by Aegon and before Robert's Rebellion From top-left to bottom-right: The North, Iron Islands, Riverlands, Vale, The Westerlands, Crownlands, The Reach, Stormlands, Dorne

I kind of thought that the freys were just tully bannermen but even with your explanation (riverlands+iron islands being 1 single kingdom originally) the crownsland isn't counted?

those martel intrigue me really... after 1/3rd of the third season that they haven't even been mentioned once by any character!
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby spurgistan on Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:15 am

Well, Princess Myrcella's in Dorne. But yeah, that's about all we've heard.
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby strike wolf on Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:17 am

betiko wrote:lol!

ok guys here's a question: why do we say that westeros has 7 kingdoms?? I count 9 if not 10, one of which has still not been metioned a single time and I think it's quite odd.
Starks, lannisters, baratheons, arryns, targaryens, tyrells, tullys, greyjoys (not counted?), martels (never mentionned yet but they seem to have all the south), and frey (this is probably not a kingdom, just a toll passage land?)


The Targaryens were exiled and the Greyjoys were stripped of rights after their rebellion.
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby betiko on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:14 am

spurgistan wrote:Well, Princess Myrcella's in Dorne. But yeah, that's about all we've heard.


hum true forgot that part, remembered that she was promised to the young arryn and forgot that tyrion changed that (to piss off cersei?)
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby betiko on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:32 am

By the way, anybody thinks that westeros kind of look like a map of britain (reverted in the bottom mid-part)? starks would be scotts, greyjoys the isle of Man, martell cornwall, tyrell+lanister+tully+arryn england; baratheon+targaryen welsh...
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby Symmetry on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:50 am

The author kinda ran out of steam post book 3.
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Re: Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

Postby thegreekdog on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:51 am

Symmetry wrote:The author kinda ran out of steam post book 3.


Inb4 rage (I agree with Symmetry).
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