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Whose Responsibility are Children?

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:10 am



Are kids their parents responsibility? Or the Communities responsibility?
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Re: Who Do Your Children Belong To??

Postby maasman on Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:12 am

I believe the parents, but if the parents are unfit to actually raise them then they should be taken by the community ie some other parents.
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Re: Who Do Your Children Belong To??

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maasman wrote:I believe the parents, but if the parents are unfit to actually raise them then they should be taken by the community ie some other parents.


Isn't that a pretty tiny minority though? And, we have had orphanages and charities and adoption systems and federal programs (recently) for a few centuries now, right?
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Re: Who Do Your Children Belong To??

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:59 am

Write-in vote:

Kids don't belong to anyone cause slavery was abolished a while ago.
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Re: Who Do Your Children Belong To??

Postby Neoteny on Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:36 am

Agreed. Children are separate human entities which possess all the human rights owed to them after birth. They are the owner of themselves.
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Re: Who Do Your Children Belong To??

Postby Baron Von PWN on Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:29 am

Yeah chiming in with the you don't "own" your children. You're legally responsible for them but that's it. From the blurb you posted I agree with the lady. Children are members of society and society as a whole needs to worry about them and think about how we can ensure children reach their full potential.

I don't neceseraly agree with her second argument that as a result we need heavy investment in education. Regardless I think it's pretty obvious society as a whole has a stake in the education of future adults.
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Postby 2dimes on Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:35 am

So members of... That seems like a different definition for belonging than property.
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Re: Who Do Children Belong To??

Postby Symmetry on Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:52 am

What sort of father would enslave his kids?
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Re: Who Do Children Belong To??

Postby Ace Rimmer on Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:09 am

Symmetry wrote:What sort of father would enslave his kids?


I would. They have to earn their keep once they are old enough. I'm a fairly benevolent slave owner though - they get education, room and board, food, clothing, I even let them earn some money to spend how they see fit. Once they are old enough to support themselves I grant them their freedom.

Until such time that they can move out and support themselves, their asses are MINE though. I expect them to work for me.
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Re: Who Do Children Belong To??

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:09 am

Ooh! A follow up. I actually like her argument as to why the community owns children. Yes it's brought to you by Shawn Hannity, but if anyone else has a segment on this issue please share!

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Re: Who Do Children Belong To??

Postby Symmetry on Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:20 am

Ace Rimmer wrote:
Symmetry wrote:What sort of father would enslave his kids?


I'm a fairly benevolent slave owner though.


Is that like a gentle rapist, or a polite murderer?
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Re: Who Do Children Belong To??

Postby ooge on Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:22 am

This is a tactic to distract people from real issues,and to fulfill there preconceived notions of what "professors" all think.
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Re: Who Do Your Children Belong To??

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:23 am

Phatscotty wrote:
maasman wrote:I believe the parents, but if the parents are unfit to actually raise them then they should be taken by the community ie some other parents.


Isn't that a pretty tiny minority though? And, we have had orphanages and charities and adoption systems and federal programs (recently) for a few centuries now, right?


What I mean is, we are all aware of the issue you raised, I think it's probably the #1 thing everyone can agree on, I think it's always been the #1 thing that everyone can agree on (feeding hungry children-foster homes).

I think the issue is being addressed. and if you know a child who is hungry, then give them some damn food. We should stop trying to funnel everything through a federal system dominated by ivy league educated power hungry lawyers who waste 30% of everything they touch and cost another 30% just to "administrate" and pay themselves 6 figures to do it

Anyone who is hungry, there are churches every other block. I guarantee you they will not turn you away or refuse to give you something to eat. There are food shelves all over the place, and I know they haven't been stocked as we'd like them to be, but the person I know who "depends" on the food shelf, and has even had a newspaper article done on her to promote sympathy for single mothers struggling.....she still makes her trip to the local casino every Friday night
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Re: Who Do Children Belong To??

Postby maxfaraday on Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:15 am

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Re: Who Do Children Belong To??

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Re: Who Do Children Belong To??

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Re: Who Do Children Belong To??

Postby Ace Rimmer on Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:34 pm

Symmetry wrote:
Ace Rimmer wrote:
Symmetry wrote:What sort of father would enslave his kids?


I'm a fairly benevolent slave owner though.


Is that like a gentle rapist, or a polite murderer?


If you use lube and roofies, it's very possible to be a gentle rapist.

If you say "excuse me sir, I am terribly sorry, but I must end your life now" then yes, you are a polite murderer.
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Re: Who Do Children Belong To??

Postby keiths31 on Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:38 pm

I don't know. Sure seems like my kids own me most of the time...
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Re: Who Do Children Belong To??

Postby ManBungalow on Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:59 pm

Battman.
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Re: Who Do Your Children Belong To??

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:53 pm

Neoteny wrote:Agreed. Children are separate human entities which possess all the human rights owed to them after achieving some form of preconceived congnition... generally 6 months to 1 year old. They are the owner of themselves.


Fixed for Metsfan.
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Re: Who Do Children Belong To??

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:55 pm

ManBungalow wrote:Battman.


Don't tempt me....
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Re: Who Do Children Belong To??

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:22 pm

We all know what Churchill said:

If you have to kill a man...
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Re: Who Do Children Belong To??

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:34 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:We all know what Churchill said:

"If you have to kill a man...


...ask how much he's willing to f*ck you?"
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Re: Who Do Children Belong To??

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:09 pm

Okay, so according to MHP it's common sense that kids are public property, and the private notion that kids belong to their parents is outdated.


Now, let's go cray cray with some really weird and wacky stuff!
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Re: Who Do Your Children Belong To??

Postby chang50 on Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:37 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:Write-in vote:

Kids don't belong to anyone cause slavery was abolished a while ago.


Agreed,what an appalling notion,parents have stewardship over their offspring unless they are deemed unfit for the responsibility.
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