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Postby Phatscotty on Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:41 pm



"If marriage is a "fundamental right" how can any state restriction exist?" - Sotomayore
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Re: If Marriage Is a Fundemental Right, Then...?

Postby Symmetry on Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:51 pm

If the OP is to be understood, then this is a music thread

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Re: If Marriage Is a Fundemental Right, Then...?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:55 pm

The OP mostly deals with the social aspects of redefining marriage, but if anyone wants to get into the fiscal, ecclesiastical, discriminatory, historical, state, or other derivative aspects and unintentional consequences, we can have those discussions too.
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Re: If Marriage Is a Fundemental Right, Then...?

Postby Symmetry on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:04 pm

Phatscotty wrote:The OP mostly deals with the social aspects of redefining marriage, but if anyone wants to get into the fiscal, ecclesiastical, discriminatory, historical, state, or other derivative aspects and unintentional consequences, we can have those discussions too.


Don't forget musical!
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Re: If Marriage Is a Fundemental Right, Then...?

Postby new guy1 on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:09 pm

I feel as though everyone should have the right to marry. If the argument is its against whats said in the bible, then so is divorce and the wife should be stoned to death. Divorce is still legal. If it is an evolution argument (whole point of humans is to reproduce and you cant do it being gay) then think of it as a genetic mutation. It will not get passed on in the gene pool, and there are mutations everywhere. Deal with it, we dont need everyone having a kid in this world. Its the same as a straight couple coming to the conclusion to not have kids. One, however, is legal. If the reason they have against it is because "Its just not right" then screw off, they arent harming you. Sorry you got rejected by your high school crush because she didnt want to date you, but she wanted to date the chick that was hitting on her.

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Re: If Marriage Is a Fundemental Right, Then...?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:12 pm

new guy1 wrote:I feel as though everyone should have the right to marry.


All people? no restrictions?
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Re: If Marriage Is a Fundemental Right, Then...?

Postby crispybits on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:13 pm

Scotty - let me ask you one question - should men and women be treated legally differently? Should someone's gender (whatever their sexuality) be a grounds for different legal treatment by the government? Should a man be granted a right because he is a man, that a woman is denied because she is a woman (or vice versa)?
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Re: If Marriage Is a Fundemental Right, Then...?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:15 pm

crispybits wrote:Scotty - let me ask you one question - should men and women be treated legally differently? Should someone's gender (whatever their sexuality) be a grounds for different legal treatment by the government? Should a man be granted a right because he is a man, that a woman is denied because she is a woman (or vice versa)?


all people should be treated the same as much as we can. Of course I realize that women seem to have more rights when it comes to custody of a child. However "rights" have nothing to do with whether or not the person excersizing them is a male or a female. A person has rights.
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Re: If Marriage Is a Fundemental Right, Then...?

Postby new guy1 on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:15 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
new guy1 wrote:I feel as though everyone should have the right to marry.


All people? no restrictions?


I should have specified. In our species.
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Re: If Marriage Is a Fundemental Right, Then...?

Postby Bones2484 on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:17 pm

This thread is now about wet hills.

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Re: If Marriage Is a Fundemental Right, Then...?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:19 pm

new guy1 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
new guy1 wrote:I feel as though everyone should have the right to marry.


All people? no restrictions?


I should have specified. In our species.


Is there an age limit?
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Re: If Marriage Is a Fundemental Right, Then...?

Postby Bones2484 on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:20 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
new guy1 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
new guy1 wrote:I feel as though everyone should have the right to marry.


All people? no restrictions?


I should have specified. In our species.


Is there an age limit?


Two. Consenting. Adults.

There. That should cover all your bases.
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Re: If Marriage Is a Fundemental Right, Then...?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:22 pm

Bones2484 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
new guy1 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
new guy1 wrote:I feel as though everyone should have the right to marry.


All people? no restrictions?


I should have specified. In our species.


Is there an age limit?


Two. Consenting. Adults.


#1) What is the reason to restrict it to 2 people? Why is it 2?

#2) Is consent always universal? for example, amongst the mentally ill, severely abused, or brainwashed their entire life?
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Re: If Marriage Is a Fundemental Right, Then...?

Postby notyou2 on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:23 pm

Bones2484 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
new guy1 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
new guy1 wrote:I feel as though everyone should have the right to marry.


All people? no restrictions?


I should have specified. In our species.


Is there an age limit?


Two. Consenting first cousins.

There. That should cover all your bases.


Fixed it for you.
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Re: If Marriage Is a Fundemental Right, Then...?

Postby notyou2 on Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:23 pm

Pscotty, why do you care?
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