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Re: Making young kids recite national anthems in schools.

Postby Night Strike on Wed May 08, 2013 12:35 pm

The Pledge of Allegiance is better than the Obama-worship songs some schools have done.
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Re: Making young kids recite national anthems in schools.

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed May 08, 2013 12:36 pm

Night Strike wrote:The Pledge of Allegiance is better than the Obama-worship songs some schools have done.

Hellz yeah, bro!


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Re: Making young kids recite national anthems in schools.

Postby Frigidus on Wed May 08, 2013 12:40 pm

Night Strike wrote:The Pledge of Allegiance is better than the Obama-worship songs some schools have done.


Even if I could write my own custom indoctrination song/chant for all the kids to repeat in school, I wouldn't be interested. We shouldn't be actively engaging in propaganda.
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Re: Making young kids recite national anthems in schools.

Postby Army of GOD on Wed May 08, 2013 12:42 pm

Frigidus wrote:
Night Strike wrote:The Pledge of Allegiance is better than the Obama-worship songs some schools have done.


Even if I could write my own custom indoctrination song/chant for all the kids to repeat in school, I wouldn't be interested. We shouldn't be actively engaging in propaganda.


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Re: Making young kids recite national anthems in schools.

Postby Bones2484 on Wed May 08, 2013 12:44 pm

Gillipig wrote:
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Gillipig wrote:Better than most of the shit we're being indoctrinated with everyday.


Such as?

You really can't think of any!? Wow, I don't think I want to waste any time discussing it with you if you need to ask me that. Watch the news, that should give you a taste of indoctrination.


I don't know about you, but I find it best to question and examine news sources before making up my mind. There are multiple outlets reporting on widely differing sides that you can pick from. We aren't being "indoctrinated" towards one news source in America by any stretch of the imagination.

Now if your answer was "religion", you might have an argument.
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Re: Making young kids recite national anthems in schools.

Postby Symmetry on Wed May 08, 2013 12:48 pm

When I was at school in the US I just stood up during the pledge without speaking.
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Re: Making young kids recite national anthems in schools.

Postby saxitoxin on Wed May 08, 2013 2:07 pm

Here's some trivia - before the Nazi Party was formed, the U.S. civil salute was also the Roman salute of the outstretched arm -



After the U.S. entered WWII they changed their civil salute to be a subdued version of the crossed chest salute used by Mexico.

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Re: Making young kids recite national anthems in schools.

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed May 08, 2013 4:24 pm

When I was in elementary school it was compulsory. I used to get in trouble all the time because I'd either not do it or some of us would make up a mockery pledge.

Frankly, I find the idea of making children repeat a pledge repellant.

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Re: Making young kids recite national anthems in schools.

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed May 08, 2013 4:42 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:When I was in elementary school it was compulsory. I used to get in trouble all the time because I'd either not do it or some of us would make up a mockery pledge.

Frankly, I find the idea of making children repeat a pledge repellant.

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Re: Making young kids recite national anthems in schools.

Postby Woodruff on Wed May 08, 2013 5:08 pm

Gillipig wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:
Gillipig wrote:Better than most of the shit we're being indoctrinated with everyday.


Such as?


You really can't think of any!? Wow, I don't think I want to waste any time discussing it with you if you need to ask me that. Watch the news, that should give you a taste of indoctrination.


It appears to me that you're the one who couldn't think of any...
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Re: Making young kids recite national anthems in schools.

Postby Woodruff on Wed May 08, 2013 5:09 pm

Night Strike wrote:The Pledge of Allegiance is better than the Obama-worship songs some schools have done.


First of all, how is it any better or worse?

Secondly, you say this as if you're trying to imply this was commonly done throughout the schools, as is becoming more and more common with the Pledge.
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Re: Making young kids recite national anthems in schools.

Postby Woodruff on Wed May 08, 2013 5:10 pm

Symmetry wrote:When I was at school in the US I just stood up during the pledge without speaking.


Nothing wrong with that at all. It shows respect for those around you and what they're doing, but without requiring that you comply.
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Re: Making young kids recite national anthems in schools.

Postby notyou2 on Wed May 08, 2013 5:38 pm

Night Strike wrote:The Pledge of Allegiance is better than the Obama-worship songs some schools have done.


What is this of which you write?
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Re: Making young kids recite national anthems in schools.

Postby Woodruff on Wed May 08, 2013 5:43 pm

notyou2 wrote:
Night Strike wrote:The Pledge of Allegiance is better than the Obama-worship songs some schools have done.


What is this of which you write?


When Obama was elected (I think), some dumbass teacher had her students singing the praises of Obama at school. It was videotaped and, as you might expect, the Foxophiles all went up in arms.

I don't have a link, but it's nothing that matters in the slightest way to anything, to be honest. Much ado about nothing.
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Postby Haggis_McMutton on Wed May 08, 2013 6:34 pm

2dimes wrote:I'm not sure I understand the problem. Just move to a country you like enough to want your kids to sing a song about. Or conversely there are probably countries in Africa or South America with less school. You could teach them just the things you feel like.


I don't like any country enough to want kids to be told to daily recite a poem praising said country. (I'm having trouble even imagining a country I could like that much).

I have nothing against them being taught the anthem in school. After being taught said anthem then they can presumably spend 1 hour a day mindlessly reciting it in their free time if they're so inclined.
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