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natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
john9blue wrote:no, you're thinking of "leftism"
"religion" is the reason we aren't killing each other and nuking ourselves off the fucking planet.
crazy fucks like you are what happen when most people abandon religion
Metsfanmax wrote:The 99.8% of the US prison population that is not atheist called, and wants the "crazy fucks" title back.
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
john9blue wrote:no, you're thinking of "leftism"
"religion" is the reason we aren't killing each other and nuking ourselves off the fucking planet.
crazy fucks like you are what happen when most people abandon religion
jonesthecurl wrote:john9blue wrote:no, you're thinking of "leftism"
"religion" is the reason we aren't killing each other and nuking ourselves off the fucking planet.
crazy fucks like you are what happen when most people abandon religion
Whereas I think pd is wrong here, it worries me when people think that a set of rules invented by an unknowable supernatural being is all that prevents them from killing people. I mean, I've hardly killed anybody sice I became an atheist. Add up the death count in the Bible or the Bhagavad-Gita, and I think you'll find that (the) God(s) are a tad more guilty than me.
muy_thaiguy wrote:jonesthecurl wrote:john9blue wrote:no, you're thinking of "leftism"
"religion" is the reason we aren't killing each other and nuking ourselves off the fucking planet.
crazy fucks like you are what happen when most people abandon religion
Whereas I think pd is wrong here, it worries me when people think that a set of rules invented by an unknowable supernatural being is all that prevents them from killing people. I mean, I've hardly killed anybody sice I became an atheist. Add up the death count in the Bible or the Bhagavad-Gita, and I think you'll find that (the) God(s) are a tad more guilty than me.
Nah, everyone knows you're a psycopath Jonesy.
jonesthecurl wrote:john9blue wrote:no, you're thinking of "leftism"
"religion" is the reason we aren't killing each other and nuking ourselves off the fucking planet.
crazy fucks like you are what happen when most people abandon religion
Whereas I think pd is wrong here, it worries me when people think that a set of rules invented by an unknowable supernatural being is all that prevents them from killing people. I mean, I've hardly killed anybody sice I became an atheist. Add up the death count in the Bible or the Bhagavad-Gita, and I think you'll find that (the) God(s) are a tad more guilty than me.
Phatscotty wrote:jonesthecurl wrote:john9blue wrote:no, you're thinking of "leftism"
"religion" is the reason we aren't killing each other and nuking ourselves off the fucking planet.
crazy fucks like you are what happen when most people abandon religion
Whereas I think pd is wrong here, it worries me when people think that a set of rules invented by an unknowable supernatural being is all that prevents them from killing people. I mean, I've hardly killed anybody sice I became an atheist. Add up the death count in the Bible or the Bhagavad-Gita, and I think you'll find that (the) God(s) are a tad more guilty than me.
It's pretty easy in the year 2013, but rather than using yourself as an example, compare yourself to a barbarian in the 6th century, or a starving villager in the 2nd century, or an angry drunk in the 7th century. I do understand why it worries you, because it worries me very much too if mankind says "we know murder is wrong just cuz, but if you don't get caught...." That's the idea. Even if you get away with murder, God knows. And God only knows how many people were prevented from killing themselves because they fear hell (whether it's real or not)
I'm sure that's not the "only" reason, but it's definitely a main reason, and we are benefiting from centuries of at least hearing "thou shall not murder". after a hundred generations, it makes a difference than if nobody ever repeated over and over and over again.
practice makes perfect, just like you Jonesy
jonesthecurl wrote:Whereas I think pd is wrong here, it worries me when people think that a set of rules invented by an unknowable supernatural being is all that prevents them from killing people. I mean, I've hardly killed anybody sice I became an atheist. Add up the death count in the Bible or the Bhagavad-Gita, and I think you'll find that (the) God(s) are a tad more guilty than me.
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
nietzsche wrote:Phatscotty wrote:jonesthecurl wrote:john9blue wrote:no, you're thinking of "leftism"
"religion" is the reason we aren't killing each other and nuking ourselves off the fucking planet.
crazy fucks like you are what happen when most people abandon religion
Whereas I think pd is wrong here, it worries me when people think that a set of rules invented by an unknowable supernatural being is all that prevents them from killing people. I mean, I've hardly killed anybody sice I became an atheist. Add up the death count in the Bible or the Bhagavad-Gita, and I think you'll find that (the) God(s) are a tad more guilty than me.
It's pretty easy in the year 2013, but rather than using yourself as an example, compare yourself to a barbarian in the 6th century, or a starving villager in the 2nd century, or an angry drunk in the 7th century. I do understand why it worries you, because it worries me very much too if mankind says "we know murder is wrong just cuz, but if you don't get caught...." That's the idea. Even if you get away with murder, God knows. And God only knows how many people were prevented from killing themselves because they fear hell (whether it's real or not)
I'm sure that's not the "only" reason, but it's definitely a main reason, and we are benefiting from centuries of at least hearing "thou shall not murder". after a hundred generations, it makes a difference than if nobody ever repeated over and over and over again.
practice makes perfect, just like you Jonesy
no obama?
jonesthecurl wrote:It is true that rules sometimes need the backing of "cos it's the divine plan". Who would be the first to have agreed to have their son's genitalia mutilated just to eliminate hemophiliacs? ( I know it seems normal in the USA now, but that's another question - and another thread). Similarly there's a good reason that Hindus don't eat cows. The gods tell you not to. That way even after the worst famine you haven't eaten the animals that pull your plough.
Here's a bit of Obama on request ( or any other major politician) - the snooping into personal communications which are rightly the subject of much angst at the moment are being justified in the name of "security". We can't know Security (it's divine workings are hidden from us). We can't question it (its divine wisdom is beyond our understanding). Sounds familiar.
Point is, haven't we grown up enough to not require written rules, enforced by a priesthood which is better of than most of us and whose main ambition now is to keep their position? (Note : some of you will see a political parallel here too - I don't blame you one bit.)
Phatscotty wrote:jonesthecurl wrote:It is true that rules sometimes need the backing of "cos it's the divine plan". Who would be the first to have agreed to have their son's genitalia mutilated just to eliminate hemophiliacs? ( I know it seems normal in the USA now, but that's another question - and another thread). Similarly there's a good reason that Hindus don't eat cows. The gods tell you not to. That way even after the worst famine you haven't eaten the animals that pull your plough.
Here's a bit of Obama on request ( or any other major politician) - the snooping into personal communications which are rightly the subject of much angst at the moment are being justified in the name of "security". We can't know Security (it's divine workings are hidden from us). We can't question it (its divine wisdom is beyond our understanding). Sounds familiar.
Point is, haven't we grown up enough to not require written rules, enforced by a priesthood which is better of than most of us and whose main ambition now is to keep their position? (Note : some of you will see a political parallel here too - I don't blame you one bit.)
Faith can be the greatest strength of mankind, and certainly twisted individuals can and do twist it to serve themselves or to hide in it. But that is for each person to question themselves.
Phatscotty wrote:Why were Martin Luther King Jr. and Abraham Lincoln men of faith? (to anyone)
jonesthecurl wrote:Phatscotty wrote:Why were Martin Luther King Jr. and Abraham Lincoln men of faith? (to anyone)
Why not?
Was it simply that that made them admirable people? If so, why wasn't everybody in Lincoln's time on his side? Were the South not people of faith?
john9blue wrote:jonesthecurl wrote:Whereas I think pd is wrong here, it worries me when people think that a set of rules invented by an unknowable supernatural being is all that prevents them from killing people. I mean, I've hardly killed anybody sice I became an atheist. Add up the death count in the Bible or the Bhagavad-Gita, and I think you'll find that (the) God(s) are a tad more guilty than me.
aside from what scotty said (centuries of beneficial societal indoctrination),i think the reason you believe this is because you think humans are fundamentally altruist and moral beings. and i don't... which may explain some of our political differences, as well.
john9blue wrote:no, you're thinking of "leftism"
"religion" is the reason we aren't killing each other and nuking ourselves off the fucking planet.
crazy fucks like you are what happen when most people abandon religion
john9blue wrote:aside from what scotty said (centuries of beneficial societal indoctrination),i think the reason you believe this is because you think humans are fundamentally altruist and moral beings. and i don't... which may explain some of our political differences, as well.
john9blue wrote:they also requested that you practice what you preach and stop spreading baseless claims without evidence
john9blue wrote:no, you're thinking of "leftism"
"religion" is the reason we aren't killing each other and nuking ourselves off the fucking planet.
crazy fucks like you are what happen when most people abandon religion
Phatscotty wrote:It's pretty easy in the year 2013, but rather than using yourself as an example, compare yourself to a barbarian in the 6th century, or a starving villager in the 2nd century, or an angry drunk in the 7th century. I do understand why it worries you, because it worries me very much too if mankind says "we know murder is wrong just cuz, but if you don't get caught...." That's the idea. Even if you get away with murder, God knows. And God only knows how many people were prevented from killing themselves because they fear hell (whether it's real or not)
I'm sure that's not the "only" reason, but it's definitely a main reason, and we are benefiting from centuries of at least hearing "thou shall not murder". after a hundred generations, it makes a difference than if nobody ever repeated over and over and over again.
practice makes perfect, just like you Jonesy
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