[Poll] 'Roswell UFO Incident'

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When I think of Roswell, I think of...

. . . little green men (and women).
2
3%
. . . little gray men (and women).
4
7%
. . . ET.
2
3%
. . . a government cover-up.
9
16%
. . . a [Redacted] and [Censored] of course.
7
12%
. . . a weather balloon gone bad.
4
7%
. . . a hoax.
4
7%
. . . a great viral marketing campaign for local tourism.
8
14%
. . . nuts and kooks.
7
12%
. . . the truth.
2
3%
. . . the lies.
1
2%
. . . the x-files (the truth/lies are out there)
4
7%
. . . other (please specify)
4
7%
 
Total votes : 58

Re: [Poll] 'Roswell UFO Incident'

Postby notyou2 on Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:42 pm

betiko wrote:
waauw wrote:
betiko wrote:Ufo= unidentified flying objects = of course we ve had some of those, doesn t mean they are from alien worlds.

What was the video of that old senile guy all about? What did he show / prove?


just his testimonial, but coming from a former minister of defense it has more weight, though I don't really know what to think of it myself.
but he claimed the following:
  • several aliens species have been visiting the earth for several thousands of years
  • the us government is covering up for these aliens as it's cooperating with one of these alien species in order to obtain technology from them
  • most of the western world is influenced by a shadow government(mostly rich people and influential politicians)


It s quite sad to see that canadians let a senile old man talk like that. Made me look for "tall whites" and the testimonial from the man who originated this is laughable.


Today, Harper would have him assassinated as he spoke in front of the committee.
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Re: [Poll] 'Roswell UFO Incident'

Postby waauw on Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:42 am

betiko wrote:
waauw wrote:
betiko wrote:Ufo= unidentified flying objects = of course we ve had some of those, doesn t mean they are from alien worlds.

What was the video of that old senile guy all about? What did he show / prove?


just his testimonial, but coming from a former minister of defense it has more weight, though I don't really know what to think of it myself.
but he claimed the following:
  • several aliens species have been visiting the earth for several thousands of years
  • the us government is covering up for these aliens as it's cooperating with one of these alien species in order to obtain technology from them
  • most of the western world is influenced by a shadow government(mostly rich people and influential politicians)


It s quite sad to see that canadians let a senile old man talk like that. Made me look for "tall whites" and the testimonial from the man who originated this is laughable.


any reason why you think the notion of aliens on earth is idiotic?
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Postby 2dimes on Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:25 am

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Re: [Poll] 'Roswell UFO Incident'

Postby betiko on Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:27 pm

waauw wrote:
betiko wrote:
waauw wrote:
betiko wrote:Ufo= unidentified flying objects = of course we ve had some of those, doesn t mean they are from alien worlds.

What was the video of that old senile guy all about? What did he show / prove?


just his testimonial, but coming from a former minister of defense it has more weight, though I don't really know what to think of it myself.
but he claimed the following:
  • several aliens species have been visiting the earth for several thousands of years
  • the us government is covering up for these aliens as it's cooperating with one of these alien species in order to obtain technology from them
  • most of the western world is influenced by a shadow government(mostly rich people and influential politicians)


It s quite sad to see that canadians let a senile old man talk like that. Made me look for "tall whites" and the testimonial from the man who originated this is laughable.


any reason why you think the notion of aliens on earth is idiotic?


It is just impossible to hold such a secret. It is also completely unlikely that if it did happen those people could have so little tangible proofs about it.
It s pretty much a human fantasy to see aliens, and when you want something really bad you just end up making up stuff like these guys.
If this guy has something to show, go ahead! He is just talking, he s canadian what does he know about americans working with 2 aliens... Just mental fantasies discussed with other people who want this so bad to be true..

I don t know, and given how far in light years the closest possibly inhabited planets are, i don t even think it s possible to reach such level of technology. I m pretty certain tons of planets are inhabited in the universe, but that we are all subject to the same laws of physics.
But the "alien" from roswell looks ridiculous. Seriously, so this guy travelled x amount of light years on his own, or if he s not on his own the other aliens left the humans do some experiments on his body? If these aliens came up to here, they would look down upon us as if we were apes.
Also what are the odds that aliens could be so similar physically to humans? No way their planet has a close combo of gravity/size/athmosphere/air pressure/temperature/ressources/ length of revolution cycles/moon effects ect ect... Tall whites seriously?? Look like scandinavians??? The story is just too ridiculous to even be considered.
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Re: [Poll] 'Roswell UFO Incident'

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:35 pm

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Re: [Poll] 'Roswell UFO Incident'

Postby waauw on Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:46 pm

betiko wrote:
waauw wrote:
betiko wrote:
waauw wrote:
betiko wrote:Ufo= unidentified flying objects = of course we ve had some of those, doesn t mean they are from alien worlds.

What was the video of that old senile guy all about? What did he show / prove?


just his testimonial, but coming from a former minister of defense it has more weight, though I don't really know what to think of it myself.
but he claimed the following:
  • several aliens species have been visiting the earth for several thousands of years
  • the us government is covering up for these aliens as it's cooperating with one of these alien species in order to obtain technology from them
  • most of the western world is influenced by a shadow government(mostly rich people and influential politicians)


It s quite sad to see that canadians let a senile old man talk like that. Made me look for "tall whites" and the testimonial from the man who originated this is laughable.




any reason why you think the notion of aliens on earth is idiotic?


It is just impossible to hold such a secret. It is also completely unlikely that if it did happen those people could have so little tangible proofs about it.
It s pretty much a human fantasy to see aliens, and when you want something really bad you just end up making up stuff like these guys.
If this guy has something to show, go ahead! He is just talking, he s canadian what does he know about americans working with 2 aliens... Just mental fantasies discussed with other people who want this so bad to be true..

I don t know, and given how far in light years the closest possibly inhabited planets are, i don t even think it s possible to reach such level of technology. I m pretty certain tons of planets are inhabited in the universe, but that we are all subject to the same laws of physics.
But the "alien" from roswell looks ridiculous. Seriously, so this guy travelled x amount of light years on his own, or if he s not on his own the other aliens left the humans do some experiments on his body? If these aliens came up to here, they would look down upon us as if we were apes.
Also what are the odds that aliens could be so similar physically to humans? No way their planet has a close combo of gravity/size/athmosphere/air pressure/temperature/ressources/ length of revolution cycles/moon effects ect ect... Tall whites seriously?? Look like scandinavians??? The story is just too ridiculous to even be considered.


Imo it would be ludacris to assume it's impossible that aliens have already been to earth. Now I'm not saying they have, but for the sake of staying open minded and rational, one should remain open for the possibility.

Also you say there are no tangible proofs, yet there are tons, though I would agree not conclusive. Ancient alien theorists would refer you to many archeological findings and in more current history there have been released documents and many pictures and videos. example: the UFO sighting above LA during the second world war

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And according to current day theoretical physics it is possible to travel many lightyears very fast through wormholes. And even disregarding wormholes it is theoretically possible to curve the timespace continuum so you can move faster than light. I would refer to you to the Alcubierre Drive.

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/05/28/nasa-admits-they-are-working-to-travel-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/

Lastly the fact that many theories say that aliens have similar physiologies as us, does sound implausible if one would consider that it is due to coincindence. It is however always possible that if the theories were true, that it isn't a coincidence at all. A race that can travel lightyears is probable to also have an understanding of bio-engineering.

So basically it's hard to make any conclusions on this matter. It all depends on whether or not you trust or distrust government statements.
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Re: [Poll] 'Roswell UFO Incident'

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:49 pm

waauw wrote:Imo it would be ludacris to assume it's impossible that aliens have already been to earth. Now I'm not saying they have, but for the sake of staying open minded and rational, one should remain open for the possibility.

Also you say there are no tangible proofs, yet there are tons, though I would agree not conclusive. Ancient alien theorists would refer you to many archeological findings and in more current history there have been released documents and many pictures and videos. example: the UFO sighting above LA during the second world war

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And according to current day theoretical physics it is possible to travel many lightyears very fast through wormholes. And even disregarding wormholes it is theoretically possible to curve the timespace continuum so you can move faster than light. I would refer to you to the Alcubierre Drive.

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/05/28/nasa-admits-they-are-working-to-travel-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/

Lastly the fact that many theories say that aliens have similar physiologies as us, does sound implausible if one would consider that it is due to coincindence. It is however always possible that if the theories were true, that it isn't a coincidence at all. A race that can travel lightyears is probable to also have an understanding of bio-engineering.

So basically it's hard to make any conclusions on this matter. It all depends on whether or not you trust or distrust government statements.


Zombies also have similar physiology to us. It is not implausible to think we've been visited by zombies.


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Re: [Poll] 'Roswell UFO Incident'

Postby waauw on Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:54 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
waauw wrote:Imo it would be ludacris to assume it's impossible that aliens have already been to earth. Now I'm not saying they have, but for the sake of staying open minded and rational, one should remain open for the possibility.

Also you say there are no tangible proofs, yet there are tons, though I would agree not conclusive. Ancient alien theorists would refer you to many archeological findings and in more current history there have been released documents and many pictures and videos. example: the UFO sighting above LA during the second world war

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And according to current day theoretical physics it is possible to travel many lightyears very fast through wormholes. And even disregarding wormholes it is theoretically possible to curve the timespace continuum so you can move faster than light. I would refer to you to the Alcubierre Drive.

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/05/28/nasa-admits-they-are-working-to-travel-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/

Lastly the fact that many theories say that aliens have similar physiologies as us, does sound implausible if one would consider that it is due to coincindence. It is however always possible that if the theories were true, that it isn't a coincidence at all. A race that can travel lightyears is probable to also have an understanding of bio-engineering.

So basically it's hard to make any conclusions on this matter. It all depends on whether or not you trust or distrust government statements.


Zombies also have similar physiology to us. It is not implausible to think we've been visited by zombies.


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true, but depending on proof and definition the range of probability can be very different.
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Re: [Poll] 'Roswell UFO Incident'

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:04 pm

Vodoo isn't proof enough? :D


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Re: [Poll] 'Roswell UFO Incident'

Postby waauw on Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:07 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Vodoo isn't proof enough? :D


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are you meaning to informally acknowledge your secret practices?
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Re: [Poll] 'Roswell UFO Incident'

Postby betiko on Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:32 pm

Regarding area 51, it just shows that you can see tons of ufos there if the government makes secret tests of new aircrafts since decades.

And regarding wormholes yes, but given the amount of energy needed to keep a wormhole opened enough and long enough to let a spaceship go through it it seems highly improbable that any form of intelligence could use them. But then it assumes that those alien intelligence would have to be made of atoms and obey quantum mechanics ect. Maybe they could be made of something else we couldn t even see...
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Re: [Poll] 'Roswell UFO Incident'

Postby Gillipig on Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:37 pm

Are we allowed to write down our answer or only check a box in the poll?
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Re: [Poll] 'Roswell UFO Incident'

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:59 pm

Sorry Gili, you can only check a box. I won't allow you to submit any written answers.


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Re: [Poll] 'Roswell UFO Incident'

Postby betiko on Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:23 pm

waauw wrote:
betiko wrote:Regarding area 51, it just shows that you can see tons of ufos there if the government makes secret tests of new aircrafts since decades.

And regarding wormholes yes, but given the amount of energy needed to keep a wormhole opened enough and long enough to let a spaceship go through it it seems highly improbable that any form of intelligence could use them. But then it assumes that those alien intelligence would have to be made of atoms and obey quantum mechanics ect. Maybe they could be made of something else we couldn t even see...


so you're admitting it's still possible :)


I totally believe there are other forms of intelligence in the universe, it s size and number of galaxies/stars/planets is limitless.
There are stuff like antimateria and other such things that are still pretty much unknown. The universe as we know it, driven by general physics laws and quantum mechanics on another scale probably has other twists that could never be understood by our human minds.

Little green humanoids, big white scandinavians, that travelled for millions of lightyears to collaborate with the us government (please no canadians!) is just a ridiculous story.. And these guys would be in a secret base in the middle of the desert hidden since decades.. Lol

Well the US government is pretty damn crappy when you see how bad they ve been exploiting alien knowledge to get mindblowing technological advantages on the rest of the world. Imagine you arrive on earth and visit the first homo sapiens. How cool it would be to teach them a few things, like the wheel, the bow and arrow, fire domestication, agriculture, animal farming ect ect..
You might answer that the huge technological improvements during the 20th century are in big part due to some aliens hidden in nevada..
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