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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby chang50 on Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:21 pm

hahaha3hahaha wrote:
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hahaha3hahaha wrote:As already mentioned, a Christian hate group is unable to exist. It's like a "Christian evolutionist", a term people liberally throw around that doesn't actually make any sense whatsoever. The two terms both conflict themselves, and in reality cannot exist.


You mean 'Christian evolutionists' like the Pope,and the Archbishop of Canterbury,or come to think of it the vast majority of self-identifying Christians?


"Vast majority" is a gross overstatement...
Secondly the scriptures clearly state that man was created by God, not that man has slowly evolved from bacteria and other species. It is fairly difficult, if not impossible, to claim to be a follower of Christ if you believe in evolution. Much like it is quite difficult to claim to be an atheist if you believe in Jesus Christ as Lord.


It's hard to find an exact % on this but the consensus is that 'most' Christians accept theistic evolution.Of course you might not agree with them but whichever way you look at it,that is a minority view.So the Popes beliefs here 'don't make any sense whatsoever,interesting when you consider the hundreds of millions of Christians he represents.


In Matthew 7:13-14, Jesus says "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."
Christ himself says that only a "minority" (as you call it) will know the truth and follow it.
So just because a "majority" believe something, does not make it true, in fact, according to Christ (whom Christians are named after), it is quite the contrary.
Again, I would re-evaluate what constitutes a Christian if you really think someone who believes in evolution can be classified as a Christian. Jesus claimed to be God, who created humans from scratch, not evolved them from bacteria over billions of years.


Considering atheists are very much a minority you'll never hear me employing argumentum ad populum,I was just clarifying you hold a minority view within Christianity.
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby jonesthecurl on Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:20 pm

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So just because a "majority" believe something, does not make it true, in fact, according to Christ (whom Christians are named after), it is quite the contrary.
Again, I would re-evaluate what constitutes a Christian if you really think someone who believes in evolution can be classified as a Christian. Jesus claimed to be God, who created humans from scratch, not evolved them from bacteria over billions of years.[/quote]

So you have redefined "Christian" to mean (among other things) "does not believe in evolution".
Well then, yes, the majority of "Christians" do NOT believe in evolution.
Again, how many "Christians" are there then?
What is your own church?
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby hahaha3hahaha on Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:37 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:
hahaha3hahaha wrote:
So just because a "majority" believe something, does not make it true, in fact, according to Christ (whom Christians are named after), it is quite the contrary.
Again, I would re-evaluate what constitutes a Christian if you really think someone who believes in evolution can be classified as a Christian. Jesus claimed to be God, who created humans from scratch, not evolved them from bacteria over billions of years.


So you have redefined "Christian" to mean (among other things) "does not believe in evolution".


I have not re-defined anything. To be a Christian you must accept the teachings of Christ, that is just common sense. Christ claimed to be God, who created humans in pure form, not in an evolutionary process backdating billions of years.
To believe in evolution is to deny the teachings of Christ, the two cannot coincide. It really isn't complicated.
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:46 pm

hahaha3hahaha wrote:
chang50 wrote:
hahaha3hahaha wrote:
chang50 wrote:
hahaha3hahaha wrote:As already mentioned, a Christian hate group is unable to exist. It's like a "Christian evolutionist", a term people liberally throw around that doesn't actually make any sense whatsoever. The two terms both conflict themselves, and in reality cannot exist.


You mean 'Christian evolutionists' like the Pope,and the Archbishop of Canterbury,or come to think of it the vast majority of self-identifying Christians?


"Vast majority" is a gross overstatement...
Secondly the scriptures clearly state that man was created by God, not that man has slowly evolved from bacteria and other species. It is fairly difficult, if not impossible, to claim to be a follower of Christ if you believe in evolution. Much like it is quite difficult to claim to be an atheist if you believe in Jesus Christ as Lord.


It's hard to find an exact % on this but the consensus is that 'most' Christians accept theistic evolution.Of course you might not agree with them but whichever way you look at it,that is a minority view.So the Popes beliefs here 'don't make any sense whatsoever,interesting when you consider the hundreds of millions of Christians he represents.


In Matthew 7:13-14, Jesus says "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."
Christ himself says that only a "minority" (as you call it) will know the truth and follow it.
So just because a "majority" believe something, does not make it true, in fact, according to Christ (whom Christians are named after), it is quite the contrary.
Again, I would re-evaluate what constitutes a Christian if you really think someone who believes in evolution can be classified as a Christian. Jesus claimed to be God, who created humans from scratch, not evolved them from bacteria over billions of years.


There's more to truth than mere consensus.

Also, it's pretty simple to believe in the validity of evolution while remaining Christian. All you say is, "I accept the theory, but what's the ultimate cause? God is." Christianity: 1. hahaha sect: 0.

'God created humans from scratch'. "Scratch" equals the billions of elements and biological matter which coalesced over millennia. One of the outcomes was homo sapiens. Who created the humans? God did (ultimately). Christianity: 2. hahaha sect: 0.

inb4: "What about that Adam and Eve story?" Well, it's meant to be take figuratively--not literally. (And any part which is crucial for Christianity must be taken literally). This procedure should be followed arbitrarily in order to arrive at whatever one's desired conclusion may be. Christianity: 0. hahaha sect: 0. atheism/agnosticism: 1.
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby hahaha3hahaha on Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:49 pm

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Also, it's pretty simple to believe in the validity of evolution while remaining Christian. All you say is, "I accept the theory, but what's the ultimate cause? God is."



That would be declaring God a liar...God did not claim to create humans through an evolutionary process, starting from microbacteria, spanning billions of years. God claimed to have created humans, in their purest form, in a single day.
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby jonesthecurl on Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:50 pm

hahaha3hahaha wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:
hahaha3hahaha wrote:
So just because a "majority" believe something, does not make it true, in fact, according to Christ (whom Christians are named after), it is quite the contrary.
Again, I would re-evaluate what constitutes a Christian if you really think someone who believes in evolution can be classified as a Christian. Jesus claimed to be God, who created humans from scratch, not evolved them from bacteria over billions of years.


So you have redefined "Christian" to mean (among other things) "does not believe in evolution".


I have not re-defined anything. To be a Christian you must accept the teachings of Christ, that is just common sense. Christ claimed to be God, who created humans in pure form, not in an evolutionary process backdating billions of years.
To believe in evolution is to deny the teachings of Christ, the two cannot coincide. It really isn't complicated.


OK. Again, how many "Christians" are there? What is your particular subset of the thing the rest of us call "Christianity"? How much does one have to disagree with you to be not "Christian"?
And do you go to hell if you believe in evolution?
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby jonesthecurl on Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:51 pm

hahaha3hahaha wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Also, it's pretty simple to believe in the validity of evolution while remaining Christian. All you say is, "I accept the theory, but what's the ultimate cause? God is."



That would be declaring God a liar...God did not claim to create humans through an evolutionary process, starting from microbacteria, spanning billions of years. God claimed to have created humans, in their purest form, in a single day.


So do you think a god literally dictated the bible?
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby hahaha3hahaha on Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:55 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:OK. Again, how many "Christians" are there?


What a silly question, how am I supposed to know how many Christians are on earth? (I thought atheists are meant to be the logical ones?)

jonesthecurl wrote:How much does one have to disagree with you to be not "Christian"?


Has nothing to do with me. What you should be asking is how much does one have to disagree with the teachings of Christ to not be a "Christian"? (Which would actually be a very intelligent question)
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby chang50 on Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:01 am

hahaha3hahaha wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:OK. Again, how many "Christians" are there?


What a silly question, how am I supposed to know how many Christians are on earth? (I thought atheists are meant to be the logical ones?)

jonesthecurl wrote:How much does one have to disagree with you to be not "Christian"?


Has nothing to do with me. What you should be asking is how much does one have to disagree with the teachings of Christ to not be a "Christian"? (Which would actually be a very intelligent question)


Naturally we have to use your particular interpretation of said teachings to answer your question?Keep digging..
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby jonesthecurl on Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:02 am

Well, let's step back a bit. You said that the idea that the "vast majority" of christians accept evolution was an overestimate. Then you excluded any such people from your definition of "Christian".
Here's a question: Millions of people who have studied the bible and call themselves Christians don't agree with your interpretation.
Who are you to say they're wrong? I ask as someone who has studied the bible and not ended as a Christian by anyone's definition.
What I'm asking is this: How much does one have to disagree with what you believe the Bible to say to be not a Christian?
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby jonesthecurl on Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:04 am

Oh and again, what is your church? You should be happy to say - there might be eople out here who find you convincing and want to join.
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby jonesthecurl on Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:05 am

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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:08 am

hahaha3hahaha wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Also, it's pretty simple to believe in the validity of evolution while remaining Christian. All you say is, "I accept the theory, but what's the ultimate cause? God is."



That would be declaring God a liar.
..God did not claim to create humans through an evolutionary process, starting from microbacteria, spanning billions of years. God claimed to have created humans, in their purest form, in a single day.


Recall:

    "What about the Genesis story?" Well, it's meant to be taken figuratively--not literally. (And any part which is crucial for Christianity or hahaha's sect must be taken literally). This procedure will be followed arbitrarily in order to arrive at whatever one's desired conclusion may be. Christianity: 0. hahaha sect: 0. atheism/agnosticism: 1.

In order to avoid that problem, you must take everything in the Bible literally.

Did God state that everything in the Bible must be taken literally?


Also, according to the italicized, how old is the Earth?
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby hahaha3hahaha on Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:13 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
"What about the Genesis story?" Well, it's meant to be taken figuratively--not literally.



What gives you that impression? I'm interested to here your theory on why creation is figurative and not literal.

jonesthecurl wrote:PS if some posts come out a little odd, lease note that the "P" key sometimes sticks on this machine I'm using...


No worries, didn't even notice.

chang50 wrote:
Naturally we have to use your particular interpretation of said teachings to answer your question?Keep digging..


Please give an example of where I have had a "particular interpretation". This is not a very good cop out to use, most of the Bible is pretty straight forward. When God commands us not to steal, it's not open to "interpretation". Please explain to me what you're referring to.
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby chang50 on Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:23 am

hahaha3hahaha wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
"What about the Genesis story?" Well, it's meant to be taken figuratively--not literally.



What gives you that impression? I'm interested to here your theory on why creation is figurative and not literal.

jonesthecurl wrote:PS if some posts come out a little odd, lease note that the "P" key sometimes sticks on this machine I'm using...


No worries, didn't even notice.

chang50 wrote:
Naturally we have to use your particular interpretation of said teachings to answer your question?Keep digging..


Please give an example of where I have had a "particular interpretation". This is not a very good cop out to use, most of the Bible is pretty straight forward. When God commands us not to steal, it's not open to "interpretation". Please explain to me what you're referring to.


So it's only those 'Christians' who see things differently to you that interpret the Bible (wrongly) because you have been soo blessed to know exactly what it all means,literally and figuratively. I Guess all the legions of theologians who have dedicated their lives to the subject must have mostly been wrong not being lucky enough to be as insightful as you.
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby hahaha3hahaha on Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:39 am

chang50 wrote: So it's only those 'Christians' who see things differently to you that interpret the Bible (wrongly) because you have been soo blessed to know exactly what it all means,literally and figuratively. I Guess all the legions of theologians who have dedicated their lives to the subject must have mostly been wrong not being lucky enough to be as insightful as you.

This is a provocative comment with no actual basis. If you're trolling, like I presume you are, try harder.
If you're indeed serious, I apologise if that is the impression you have perceived from my comments. I in no way profess to "have all the answers".
Whilst some of the Bible has been contentious and no doubt a tad confusing for some over the correct interpretation/meaning, it generally is pretty straight forward.
For example, when I claim that confessing and being forgiven of sins by a man behind a screen in a booth is not biblical, I can back that up with scriptural evidence, and upon request of evidence that disputes this, get no real response. So by making this claim I'm not professing to be a genius, only to have an apt understanding of general scripture.
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

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hahaha3hahaha wrote:
chang50 wrote: So it's only those 'Christians' who see things differently to you that interpret the Bible (wrongly) because you have been soo blessed to know exactly what it all means,literally and figuratively. I Guess all the legions of theologians who have dedicated their lives to the subject must have mostly been wrong not being lucky enough to be as insightful as you.

This is a provocative comment with no actual basis. If you're trolling, like I presume you are, try harder.
If you're indeed serious, I apologise if that is the impression you have perceived from my comments. I in no way profess to "have all the answers".
Whilst some of the Bible has been contentious and no doubt a tad confusing for some over the correct interpretation/meaning, it generally is pretty straight forward.
For example, when I claim that confessing and being forgiven of sins by a man behind a screen in a booth is not biblical, I can back that up with scriptural evidence, and upon request of evidence that disputes this, get no real response. So by making this claim I'm not professing to be a genius, only to have an apt understanding of general scripture.


To sum up - "The bible doesn't say a man behind a screen can forgive your sins, so it must not be right."

As chang puts it, hahaha ignores 2,000 years of history and theology, nevermind that the Bible is hardly consistent and provides for various "to dos" that I'm relatively certain hahaha doesn't actually do (to be fair, no one else does either). I tend to get these types of anti-Catholic arguments from Christians whose religions are allegedly based only on the Bible. Historically, these religions sprang up mostly for political reasons and the "man behind the screen" quip is an example of this type of thing. A religion based on a literal reading of the Bible cannot possibly exist.
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby hahaha3hahaha on Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:57 am

thegreekdog wrote:
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chang50 wrote: So it's only those 'Christians' who see things differently to you that interpret the Bible (wrongly) because you have been soo blessed to know exactly what it all means,literally and figuratively. I Guess all the legions of theologians who have dedicated their lives to the subject must have mostly been wrong not being lucky enough to be as insightful as you.

This is a provocative comment with no actual basis. If you're trolling, like I presume you are, try harder.
If you're indeed serious, I apologise if that is the impression you have perceived from my comments. I in no way profess to "have all the answers".
Whilst some of the Bible has been contentious and no doubt a tad confusing for some over the correct interpretation/meaning, it generally is pretty straight forward.
For example, when I claim that confessing and being forgiven of sins by a man behind a screen in a booth is not biblical, I can back that up with scriptural evidence, and upon request of evidence that disputes this, get no real response. So by making this claim I'm not professing to be a genius, only to have an apt understanding of general scripture.


To sum up - "The bible doesn't say a man behind a screen can forgive your sins, so it must not be right."

As chang puts it, hahaha ignores 2,000 years of history and theology, nevermind that the Bible is hardly consistent and provides for various "to dos" that I'm relatively certain hahaha doesn't actually do (to be fair, no one else does either). I tend to get these types of anti-Catholic arguments from Christians whose religions are allegedly based only on the Bible. Historically, these religions sprang up mostly for political reasons and the "man behind the screen" quip is an example of this type of thing. A religion based on a literal reading of the Bible cannot possibly exist.


The early Roman church actually persecuted and slaughtered Christians, yet you are saying history should eb the basis of Christianity, not the Holy Scripture pertaining to Christ itself?
When Christ was on earth he made scathing claims against the pharisees of the church, the people who valued tradition and historical law over all else. He declared to them in Mark 7:8-9 “You abandon the commandments of God to follow human traditions.” He added, “You have no trouble rejecting the commandments of God in order to keep your own traditions!".
Secondly, catholicism was the first religion to be forged for political reasons, so I'm not sure if you should be throwing these remarks around about other denominations.
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby chang50 on Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:58 am

hahaha3hahaha wrote:
chang50 wrote: So it's only those 'Christians' who see things differently to you that interpret the Bible (wrongly) because you have been soo blessed to know exactly what it all means,literally and figuratively. I Guess all the legions of theologians who have dedicated their lives to the subject must have mostly been wrong not being lucky enough to be as insightful as you.

This is a provocative comment with no actual basis. If you're trolling, like I presume you are, try harder.
If you're indeed serious, I apologise if that is the impression you have perceived from my comments. I in no way profess to "have all the answers".
Whilst some of the Bible has been contentious and no doubt a tad confusing for some over the correct interpretation/meaning, it generally is pretty straight forward.
For example, when I claim that confessing and being forgiven of sins by a man behind a screen in a booth is not biblical, I can back that up with scriptural evidence, and upon request of evidence that disputes this, get no real response. So by making this claim I'm not professing to be a genius, only to have an apt understanding of general scripture.


I'm not trolling.You just don't seem to see how claiming 'an apt understanding of scripture'.is anything but humble,considering the mountains of words devoted to it by thousands of 'experts',and the diversity of opinion thus produced.
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby hahaha3hahaha on Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:05 am

chang50 wrote:
hahaha3hahaha wrote:
chang50 wrote: So it's only those 'Christians' who see things differently to you that interpret the Bible (wrongly) because you have been soo blessed to know exactly what it all means,literally and figuratively. I Guess all the legions of theologians who have dedicated their lives to the subject must have mostly been wrong not being lucky enough to be as insightful as you.

This is a provocative comment with no actual basis. If you're trolling, like I presume you are, try harder.
If you're indeed serious, I apologise if that is the impression you have perceived from my comments. I in no way profess to "have all the answers".
Whilst some of the Bible has been contentious and no doubt a tad confusing for some over the correct interpretation/meaning, it generally is pretty straight forward.
For example, when I claim that confessing and being forgiven of sins by a man behind a screen in a booth is not biblical, I can back that up with scriptural evidence, and upon request of evidence that disputes this, get no real response. So by making this claim I'm not professing to be a genius, only to have an apt understanding of general scripture.


I'm not trolling.You just don't seem to see how claiming 'an apt understanding of scripture'.is anything but humble,considering the mountains of words devoted to it by thousands of 'experts',and the diversity of opinion thus produced.


Then I do apologize, I did not mean to give off that impression. Again, as I've already stated, I do not pretend like I know all the answers, but there are certain undeniable truths found in Christ's teachings that are not "subject to interpretation"- and I believe these are the ones I have been stating, separate to my own opinions and interpretations.
At the moment you generalizing, and are being careful not to mention anything specific. Would you like to specify what matter you're referring to when you speak of diverse interpretations?
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby chang50 on Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:14 am

hahaha3hahaha wrote:
chang50 wrote:
hahaha3hahaha wrote:
chang50 wrote: So it's only those 'Christians' who see things differently to you that interpret the Bible (wrongly) because you have been soo blessed to know exactly what it all means,literally and figuratively. I Guess all the legions of theologians who have dedicated their lives to the subject must have mostly been wrong not being lucky enough to be as insightful as you.

This is a provocative comment with no actual basis. If you're trolling, like I presume you are, try harder.
If you're indeed serious, I apologise if that is the impression you have perceived from my comments. I in no way profess to "have all the answers".
Whilst some of the Bible has been contentious and no doubt a tad confusing for some over the correct interpretation/meaning, it generally is pretty straight forward.
For example, when I claim that confessing and being forgiven of sins by a man behind a screen in a booth is not biblical, I can back that up with scriptural evidence, and upon request of evidence that disputes this, get no real response. So by making this claim I'm not professing to be a genius, only to have an apt understanding of general scripture.


I'm not trolling.You just don't seem to see how claiming 'an apt understanding of scripture'.is anything but humble,considering the mountains of words devoted to it by thousands of 'experts',and the diversity of opinion thus produced.


Then I do apologize, I did not mean to give off that impression. Again, as I've already stated, I do not pretend like I know all the answers, but there are certain undeniable truths found in Christ's teachings that are not "subject to interpretation"- and I believe these are the ones I have been stating, separate to my own opinions and interpretations.
At the moment you generalizing, and are being careful not to mention anything specific. Would you like to specify what matter you're referring to when you speak of diverse interpretations?


As an atheist I don't believe any of them,you could choose any doctrinal difference,the point is there are so many not the details of whether you consider them correct or not,and all as fiercely held as yours.
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:22 am

hahaha3hahaha wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
hahaha3hahaha wrote:
chang50 wrote: So it's only those 'Christians' who see things differently to you that interpret the Bible (wrongly) because you have been soo blessed to know exactly what it all means,literally and figuratively. I Guess all the legions of theologians who have dedicated their lives to the subject must have mostly been wrong not being lucky enough to be as insightful as you.

This is a provocative comment with no actual basis. If you're trolling, like I presume you are, try harder.
If you're indeed serious, I apologise if that is the impression you have perceived from my comments. I in no way profess to "have all the answers".
Whilst some of the Bible has been contentious and no doubt a tad confusing for some over the correct interpretation/meaning, it generally is pretty straight forward.
For example, when I claim that confessing and being forgiven of sins by a man behind a screen in a booth is not biblical, I can back that up with scriptural evidence, and upon request of evidence that disputes this, get no real response. So by making this claim I'm not professing to be a genius, only to have an apt understanding of general scripture.


To sum up - "The bible doesn't say a man behind a screen can forgive your sins, so it must not be right."

As chang puts it, hahaha ignores 2,000 years of history and theology, nevermind that the Bible is hardly consistent and provides for various "to dos" that I'm relatively certain hahaha doesn't actually do (to be fair, no one else does either). I tend to get these types of anti-Catholic arguments from Christians whose religions are allegedly based only on the Bible. Historically, these religions sprang up mostly for political reasons and the "man behind the screen" quip is an example of this type of thing. A religion based on a literal reading of the Bible cannot possibly exist.


The early Roman church actually persecuted and slaughtered Christians, yet you are saying history should eb the basis of Christianity, not the Holy Scripture pertaining to Christ itself?
When Christ was on earth he made scathing claims against the pharisees of the church, the people who valued tradition and historical law over all else. He declared to them in Mark 7:8-9 “You abandon the commandments of God to follow human traditions.” He added, “You have no trouble rejecting the commandments of God in order to keep your own traditions!".
Secondly, catholicism was the first religion to be forged for political reasons, so I'm not sure if you should be throwing these remarks around about other denominations.


Right, right. Rock, church, and all that. I do not doubt that Catholicism is and has been politically motivated. It's an historic fact. But keep in mind that you started this.

Here are some simple questions for you to answer. If you do not abide by these rules, then you are also violating the tenets of the Bible.

(1) Have you ever worked on a Sunday? If so, were you killed (as required by Exodus)?
(2) Do you have any loans? Do you pay interest? See Leviticus.
(3) Do you do any of the following (as prohibited by Leviticus):
(a) Sow your field with more than one seed;
(b) Wear a cloth garment with two kinds of materials;
(c) Eat flesh with blood;
(d) Round off the hair on your temples;
(e) Have a tatoo;
(4) Have you participated in the stoning of adulterers? See Leviticus
(5) Have you had intercourse with a menstrating woman? If so, were you exiled? See Levicitus
(6) Do you tithe 1/10th of what you make to your religion?
(7) Do you allow non-Christians in your house?
(8) And the last one - do you humble yourself such that you grieve and cry? I kind of get that you don't given your username, so...
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Re: Christian hate group put this through my door yesterday

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:28 am

thegreekdog wrote:(8) And the last one - do you humble yourself such that you grieve and cry? I kind of get that you don't given your username, so...

TGD, wins.


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Postby 2dimes on Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:34 am

We've all stoned various sinners I hope, it's one of the things that separates us from other species.

If you're a pharisee like myself I hope you re-read a couple of the laws Greek. You can get a tattoo there is just restrictions regarding why.
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Postby thegreekdog on Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:50 am

2dimes wrote:We've all stoned various sinners I hope, it's one of the things that separates us from other species.

If you're a pharisee like myself I hope you re-read a couple of the laws Greek. You can get a tattoo there is just restrictions regarding why.


I put more faith in people that are smarter than me and came before me. If Francis of Assisi says the Bible says to get a tattoo, I'm going to trust him over a CC user or a religion that was formed in 1982.
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