Korea - much better when US not involved

[mrswdk]

When America is not involved:

North Korea has accepted an offer to attend high-level talks next week, South Korean officials have said.

The meeting, on 9 January, will focus on finding a way for North Korean athletes to attend the Winter Olympic Games in South Korea in February.

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un said this week that sending a delegation to the Games would be "a good opportunity to show unity of the people"

When America is involved:

President Donald Trump taunted Kim Jong Un Tuesday night, bragging about his “Nuclear Button” and how it is “much bigger & more powerful” than the North Korean leader’s.

[2dimes]

Aw c'mom. You would have lobbed a couple at Kim by now if you had a button. This seems a bit disingenuous. Carry on.

[Bernie Sanders]

When America is not involved:

North Korea has accepted an offer to attend high-level talks next week, South Korean officials have said.

The meeting, on 9 January, will focus on finding a way for North Korean athletes to attend the Winter Olympic Games in South Korea in February.

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un said this week that sending a delegation to the Games would be "a good opportunity to show unity of the people"

When America is involved:

President Donald Trump taunted Kim Jong Un Tuesday night, bragging about his “Nuclear Button” and how it is “much bigger & more powerful” than the North Korean leader’s.

......wait a minute......thought you were a HUGE Trump cheerleader?

[mrswdk]

I have always been consistent in my view that when America gets involved in another region's politics - especially Asia - it acts as a force for evil.

[2dimes]

You're mixing up the US&A with England.

[Bernie Sanders]

You're mixing up the US&A with England.

No, he meant China!

[2dimes]

You're mixing up the US&A with England.

No, he meant China!

Are you smoking atstroturf? How could China not be involved in Asia. They are one of it's largest countries.

[Bernie Sanders]

You're mixing up the US&A with England.

No, he meant China!

Are you smoking atstroturf? How could China not be involved in Asia. They are one of it's largest countries.

Never smoked astroturf. From your own experience does it get you high?

[mrswdk]

You're mixing up the US&A with England.

The only time the UK pops up in Asia these days it is to beg for trade deals so the UK is now on the 'Okay' list.

[2dimes]

You're mixing up the US&A with England.

The only time the UK pops up in Asia these days it is to beg for trade deals so the UK is now on the 'Okay' list.

So 'Okay' is code for impotent. Roger that.

[mrswdk]

You're mixing up the US&A with England.

The only time the UK pops up in Asia these days it is to beg for trade deals so the UK is now on the 'Okay' list.

So 'Okay' is code for impotent. Roger that.

Refraining from bullying and confrontation =/= being impotent

[2dimes]

You're right. The empire collapsed because you're a generation of pussys that won't go take over and put the locals in their place as subjects anymore.

Pseudo Burn would show you how to set up Hong Kong instead of giving it back.

[mrswdk]

Hong Kong was leased to the UK by China for 99 years, from 1898 until 1997. The UK gave it back because its lease was up.

you're a generation of pussys that won't go take over and put the locals in their place as subjects anymore

Exactly the attitude America takes to Asia and exactly why my OP is accurate. All hail China, all hail resistance against Darth Bush/Obama/Trump!

[Bernie Sanders]

Hong Kong was leased to the UK by China for 99 years, from 1898 until 1997. The UK gave it back because its lease was up.

you're a generation of pussys that won't go take over and put the locals in their place as subjects anymore

Exactly the attitude America takes to Asia and exactly why my OP is accurate. All hail China, all hail resistance against Darth Bush/Obama/Trump!

Only friend China has is North Korea. Yippie!

[2dimes]

The Ruskies are pretending to play nice with China.

[notyou2]

So mrs, how should the two Koreas look to you if you had your wish?

[2dimes]

If I could make a united Korea they'd be one nation under God and...

[karel]

When America is not involved:

North Korea has accepted an offer to attend high-level talks next week, South Korean officials have said.

The meeting, on 9 January, will focus on finding a way for North Korean athletes to attend the Winter Olympic Games in South Korea in February.

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un said this week that sending a delegation to the Games would be "a good opportunity to show unity of the people"

When America is involved:

President Donald Trump taunted Kim Jong Un Tuesday night, bragging about his “Nuclear Button” and how it is “much bigger & more powerful” than the North Korean leader’s.

and trump should bully them,unlike obama who kissed everyone's ass,prolly even his own ass,its time to stop caving in,trump has the balls to say it,unlkike the last moron

[notyou2]

Is orange better then brown Karel?

[Dukasaur]

Without the Americans in Korea there would be no 4077th M.A.S.H. unit.

[karel]

Is orange better then brown Karel?

no orange is a ugly color,wtf is your point

[mrswdk]

So mrs, how should the two Koreas look to you if you had your wish?

Diplomacy and stability is good. Reunification would be cool but I think that ship might have sailed

[warmonger1981]

So mrs, how should the two Koreas look to you if you had your wish?

Diplomacy and stability is good. Reunification would be cool but I think that ship might have sailed

So basically you believe it a two-state solution.

[Bernie Sanders]

So mrs, how should the two Koreas look to you if you had your wish?

Diplomacy and stability is good. Reunification would be cool but I think that ship might have sailed

So basically you believe it a two-state solution.

Eventually North and South Korea will unite. North Korea will collapse on its self and South Korea will pay for the reunification, just like West Germany paid for the collapse of East Germany.

[mrswdk]

I'm not really bothered about whether the two Koreas stay separate or somehow manage to reunite. I'm more interested in there not being a war (potentially involving nuclear weapons) right on China's doorstep.

One of the key objectives that needs to be achieved for any war to become impossible/peace to be achieved is for America to cease to have a military influence on the peninsula. As long as America has troops doing exercises in South Korea and is issuing statements condemning the North Korean government, the North will remain paranoid about turning into the next Libya/Syria and will continue to act like a bunch of pricks.

China has the most leverage over North Korea, doesn't like the North Korean government, and has no interest in seeing its third largest trading partner (South Korea) fucked with. China would be willing and able to maintain stability by itself. America just makes things worse.