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Re: Football (real)

Postby HardAttack on Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:43 am

The Wizard, the only Wizard...
It is Zinedine Zidane's word once he was asked, "Zinedine, who is the best footballer you have ever played with/against", didnt think more than 3 seconds, spoke it out, "it is Ronaldo" he answered. I count myself to be lucky though, had times to see his performance. Sad for today's kids, missed a lot. Thanks to youtube, bringing little bit of ronaldo anyway.



To me, ronaldinho seems like to be a very good footballer, his style looks like beach football more than modern 90 minutes football we have in our leagues. Ronaldo on the other hand, wizard in skills and abilities, meeting it with a great athletic, power instruments to become the single and ever legend with unbelievable coordination abilities IMO. Watch the fkin above video to the last minute, you will see.

Still can not believe and can not stop laughin to see how desperate defenders are when it is ronaldo comin with the ball to score it. IMO, his injury should and well be tied to his this extra ordinary, unbelievable skills, which demands great pressure on/in tissues/joints far far more than any ordinary footballer, adding his being not a skinny type, then this pressure is even more.

Thank you ronny, may live forever.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:35 am

I don't need to see youtube.. I had the fortune to see Ronaldo's and Ronaldinho's every single game live when they were playing. I still believe no one is even close to Ronaldinho's magic! XD
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:08 pm

HardAttack wrote:The Wizard, the only Wizard...
It is Zinedine Zidane's word once he was asked, "Zinedine, who is the best footballer you have ever played with/against", didnt think more than 3 seconds, spoke it out, "it is Ronaldo" he answered. I count myself to be lucky though, had times to see his performance. Sad for today's kids, missed a lot. Thanks to youtube, bringing little bit of ronaldo anyway.



To me, ronaldinho seems like to be a very good footballer, his style looks like beach football more than modern 90 minutes football we have in our leagues. Ronaldo on the other hand, wizard in skills and abilities, meeting it with a great athletic, power instruments to become the single and ever legend with unbelievable coordination abilities IMO. Watch the fkin above video to the last minute, you will see.

Still can not believe and can not stop laughin to see how desperate defenders are when it is ronaldo comin with the ball to score it. IMO, his injury should and well be tied to his this extra ordinary, unbelievable skills, which demands great pressure on/in tissues/joints far far more than any ordinary footballer, adding his being not a skinny type, then this pressure is even more.

Thank you ronny, may live forever.



No Pirlo, it doesn't matter if you saw all the games live, you need to watch that video, is way better than mine. It counteracts your video by far.

I respect your POV Pirlo, and it comes a point when it's about of taste. Ronaldo was all that Hardattack described but was also a person that everybody liked for his effort, you could see he was giving it all and he was risking an injury ALL the time. You can see many defenders didn't kick him because they couldn't! by the time they would've decided to kick him he was gone.

It was joy to watch him play, not that Ronaldinho wasn't but to be honest I think defenders were equally striken by his ability AND the thought that they were in front of a giant parrot dancing. Ronaldo was more direct towards the goal.

Who was more effective in his teams it's impossible to determine, but let's not forget Ronaldo scored 15 goals in the World Cups.

As Hardattack says, we are lucky to have seen him play, kids today type ronaldo in youtube and all they get is CR7. CR7 by the end of his career will have scored more goals than Ronaldo but el Fenomeno will forever stay with us that saw him play.

Also, we got to see Zidane and Ronaldo play in the same team.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:47 pm

nietzsche wrote:Also, we got to see Zidane and Ronaldo play in the same team.


Bitch please... Newer generations got to see Ronaldinho and Messi in the same team!

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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:59 pm

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nietzsche wrote:Also, we got to see Zidane and Ronaldo play in the same team.


Bitch please... Newer generations got to see Ronaldinho and Messi in the same team!

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Are you saying Ronaldinho was in the same category that Zidane?
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:10 pm

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Pirlo wrote:
nietzsche wrote:Also, we got to see Zidane and Ronaldo play in the same team.


Bitch please... Newer generations got to see Ronaldinho and Messi in the same team!

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Are you saying Ronaldinho was in the same category that Zidane?


I don't thinks it's wise to say that, because Ronaldinho ruined his own career too early! but the couple of years he spent in Barca during his peak were tremendously amazing and a lot better than any couple of years of any other player; maybe except Messi's last 2 years. But oh well, even the one who could beat him to that was in his team!

so seriously... Bitch please! XD
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Re: Football (real)

Postby HardAttack on Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:17 am

i am not going to repeat it again and again,
no point. Pirlo is sorta professional on the field, so i have got respect on his views...
But once again, comparing ronaldinho with ronaldo is something quite like comparing 100 with 1 ...
There had been lots of players in the past we can name to have great free kick talent, one of them was ronaldinho,
it is ok, ronaldinho also had some tricks, good technique, etc...
But, when you take ronaldo under the scope, you will see something very different...You will see a porche, a 500cc kawasaki engine if you know what i mean ? Ronaldinho's play always seemed to me to be too polite, fragile, powerless, on the other hand ronaldo used to be the engine, like a horse running on the field and no way losing the ball but bringing it to score, no matter how many defenders there are...And nietzche brought a very good aspect, that is ronaldo always showed up the ARTIST, he played from heart, didnt care if defenders to come to tackle him to injury but he kept playing in brave, just like a true star. I didnt see him losing his line even after his popularity grew up like a rocket, he still used to keep the affability he always had. He came to europe scene as someone, played like someone, and left to brazil back like someone...Still there in brazil like someone. His popularity did not change him from 1 to 100...To me this is a GREAT and HUGE sign of good character...I FCK A LOT RESPECT that. From this point of view, i like messi too, i see ronaldo's decent fellow approach in messi too, and for that reason messi gets good points from me as well...
I dislike players, who are there to scream/to show/to imply, HEY I DID THIS, I BROUGHT THE POINTS TO THE TEAM etc sort of moves acts...

To me, an artist, a player/athlet whatever, first of all they are human, then they are whatever they are.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:31 am

HardAttack wrote:i am not going to repeat it again and again,
no point. Pirlo is sorta professional on the field, so i have got respect on his views...
But once again, comparing ronaldinho with ronaldo is something quite like comparing 100 with 1 ...
There had been lots of players in the past we can name to have great free kick talent, one of them was ronaldinho,
it is ok, ronaldinho also had some tricks, good technique, etc...
But, when you take ronaldo under the scope, you will see something very different...You will see a porche, a 500cc kawasaki engine if you know what i mean ? Ronaldinho's play always seemed to me to be too polite, fragile, powerless, on the other hand ronaldo used to be the engine, like a horse running on the field and no way losing the ball but bringing it to score, no matter how many defenders there are...And nietzche brought a very good aspect, that is ronaldo always showed up the ARTIST, he played from heart, didnt care if defenders to come to tackle him to injury but he kept playing in brave, just like a true star. I didnt see him losing his line even after his popularity grew up like a rocket, he still used to keep the affability he always had. He came to europe scene as someone, played like someone, and left to brazil back like someone...Still there in brazil like someone. His popularity did not change him from 1 to 100...To me this is a GREAT and HUGE sign of good character...I FCK A LOT RESPECT that. From this point of view, i like messi too, i see ronaldo's decent fellow approach in messi too, and for that reason messi gets good points from me as well...
I dislike players, who are there to scream/to show/to imply, HEY I DID THIS, I BROUGHT THE POINTS TO THE TEAM etc sort of moves acts...

To me, an artist, a player/athlet whatever, first of all they are human, then they are whatever they are.


If I was a club owner and got to choose between Ronaldo and Ronaldinho, I'd definitely pick Ronaldo for many reasons. for example: (a) Ronaldo served 8-10 years, while the other served 2-3; (b) Ronaldo's personality seems to be easier to deal with (kind of HR management philosophy) and this is important for clubs because the player is also a human who has a tough mood sometimes which affects his teammates. A player is not just 90 minutes on the field... there are a lot going on behind the scenes and that's what Guardiola addressed to bring the best of Barca players.. He got rid of difficult persons.

What I'm saying Ronaldinho is best at, is the raw talent... not the overall abilities and career length/achievements. But oh well... He played like a street freestyle mode and still won the biggest titles - La Liga, champions League and World Cup :D
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:48 pm

Seriously, I couldn't pick one between the 3 ronaldos at their best if I was a manager.

ronaldinho: have you guys forgotten what type of player this guy was before getting the "ballon d'or"? ("balon de oro" in spain, I don't know how it's called in english, because "golden ball" sounds awfull lol). I remember the ceremony with ronaldinho. That's it, he obtained all the goals he could possibly dream of as a kid in club, national team and individually (champion's league, world cup, ballon d'or). That's where his ambition was standing; reaching the the zenith of football. That night he brough he Ma' on stage when he received the best individual prize for a footballer in '05. He made it. This guy from the favellas made it, he had won everything, with tons of money, was crowned the best footballer and there was his ma' who had suffered all her life. They both cried and there was nothing that could ever make them prouder. Ronaldinho was like 26 and he decided his career was over, he had so much talent, had such great contracts with his club and Nike that from now on it would only be about having fun, clubbing, samba and bitches! Being the best ever was never his goal; he was happy with just being the best at some point. But can the shit he's been up to since half a decade erase the freaking monster this guy was? He had 2-3 years during which he did stuff from another planet, really... He was touched by grace!

ronaldo: this guy just was a revolution, no one had ever seen anything like that... outstanding physical, techinal and creativity. The new Pelé since he was 17 playing for PSV. He was even part of Brazil 94' that won the world cup, under the name of "ronaldinho" at the time. He really became famous after his year in Barcelona when he was 19, just before the 98' world cup in france. As a frenchman, I gave our team no chance in the final. They had freakin' ronaldo!! Who could win a world cup final with a team playing with ronaldo as a striker?? you were just doomed!! Luckily for us, he got sick the night before or something, and couldn't play, he came in by the end when Zidane had already scored 2 headers and the world cup was ours. He had signed for Inter the year before and that's when his troubles started. His first year was only reasonable, but then started his knee injuries. Injuries that kept him out of the pitch for entire seasons. this guy, the new pelé was just finished. By some miracle, he came back before the world cup 2002 which he won then signed for Madrid, where he made one of the greatest comebacks for a few seasons. Ronaldo was just like a big baby. He just seems like being such a nice guy, with lots of bad luck but never complaining. I think everybody loved him for his personality. He won 2 "ballons d'or" in 97 and 02. Only for this I think he was better than Ronaldinho. He lost everything and came back with a revenge 5 years later.

cristiano ronaldo: a spoiled brat. good looking with excellent skills. horrible sense of competition. This guy has just been the best at everything since he was a kid and likes to let his opponents know. You cannot deny his incredible skills and his incredible mental and physical preparation. This guy dedicates every second of his life at being the best. He got his "ballon d'or" in '08 when he was 23, a little later he became the most expensive transfer ever for 96M euros when he went to the real madrid. But the runner up from 08', a small argentinian 2 years younger playing for barcelona was going to be his nightmare. Ronaldo will manage to get unhuman stats year after year; but no matter what he would do, the small and ugly argentinian would always do better. And everybody would hate him and love the ugly little argentinian playing for the rival club. Worse of all, the Ugly little argentinian was going to win a 4th straight "ballon d'or" while he has become the eternal runner up... What a tragedy for the narcissist CR7, as he likes to be called.... Nothing is going as planned no matter how awesome he is!
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Re: Football (real)

Postby CBlake on Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:28 pm

It's only about Clark Dempsey folks
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:54 pm

CBlake wrote:It's only about Clark Dempsey folks


Ok, this guy is not as good as Dempsey but he's worth a look:

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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:29 pm

betiko wrote:Seriously, I couldn't pick one between the 3 ronaldos at their best if I was a manager.

ronaldinho: have you guys forgotten what type of player this guy was before getting the "ballon d'or"? ("balon de oro" in spain, I don't know how it's called in english, because "golden ball" sounds awfull lol). I remember the ceremony with ronaldinho. That's it, he obtained all the goals he could possibly dream of as a kid in club, national team and individually (champion's league, world cup, ballon d'or). That's where his ambition was standing; reaching the the zenith of football. That night he brough he Ma' on stage when he received the best individual prize for a footballer in '05. He made it. This guy from the favellas made it, he had won everything, with tons of money, was crowned the best footballer and there was his ma' who had suffered all her life. They both cried and there was nothing that could ever make them prouder. Ronaldinho was like 26 and he decided his career was over, he had so much talent, had such great contracts with his club and Nike that from now on it would only be about having fun, clubbing, samba and bitches! Being the best ever was never his goal; he was happy with just being the best at some point. But can the shit he's been up to since half a decade erase the freaking monster this guy was? He had 2-3 years during which he did stuff from another planet, really... He was touched by grace!

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cristiano ronaldo: a spoiled brat. good looking with excellent skills. horrible sense of competition. This guy has just been the best at everything since he was a kid and likes to let his opponents know. You cannot deny his incredible skills and his incredible mental and physical preparation. This guy dedicates every second of his life at being the best. He got his "ballon d'or" in '08 when he was 23, a little later he became the most expensive transfer ever for 96M euros when he went to the real madrid. But the runner up from 08', a small argentinian 2 years younger playing for barcelona was going to be his nightmare. Ronaldo will manage to get unhuman stats year after year; but no matter what he would do, the small and ugly argentinian would always do better. And everybody would hate him and love the ugly little argentinian playing for the rival club. Worse of all, the Ugly little argentinian was going to win a 4th straight "ballon d'or" while he has become the eternal runner up... What a tragedy for the narcissist CR7, as he likes to be called.... Nothing is going as planned no matter how awesome he is!


Well said, Betico..

English media and papers use Balon d'Or as well.. a few of them uses "Golden Ball" sometimes though. Spanish papers use "Balon de Oro."

CR7 realized that he needed to polish his public image when he was told it was gonna affect the decisions of some Balon d'Or voters.. afraid it's too late though.

Messi was threatened to end up being disabled before he turned out to be the best footballer, so he absolutely values what he has since he suffered just to become a normal human. as the saying goes "What doesn't kill ya, makes ya stronger!"
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:07 pm

seriously.... how the hell could c.ronaldo win the ballon d'or this season??? would be completely unjustfied. He won the liga, big deal! portugal did shit during the eurocup!!


nietsche. dude don't stab my heart lol! that video with that sad music is too hard to watch! Just remembering the awesome team we had from 98 to 06 and the spoiled brats we have today.... we even lost vs mexico in the past world cup!! :( :oops: ;) :D
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Re: Football (real)

Postby CBlake on Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:27 pm

Spurs are ghey they won't play my man clark more instead they add Adebayor in F' em
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:32 pm

CBlake wrote:Spurs are ghey they won't play my man clark more instead they add Adebayor in F' em


who, patrick dempsey? is he still on that show?
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:58 pm

betiko wrote:seriously.... how the hell could c.ronaldo win the ballon d'or this season??? would be completely unjustfied. He won the liga, big deal! portugal did shit during the eurocup!!


nietsche. dude don't stab my heart lol! that video with that sad music is too hard to watch! Just remembering the awesome team we had from 98 to 06 and the spoiled brats we have today.... we even lost vs mexico in the past world cup!! :( :oops: ;) :D


Imagine Zidane had scored that header that Buffon stopped in 2006...

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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:10 pm

tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line... :cry: :cry:

I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:11 pm

betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line... :cry: :cry:

I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!


But France has a good team again don't they?

How many 2nd places qualify?
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:31 pm

betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line... :cry: :cry:

I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!



I think Zidane legacy is great but imagine if he had scored that header? Basically he came out of the retire in the national team to make France almost win another World Cup.

There's a similar story in Mexican Football, there's this player, Cuahtemoc Blanco who is the most representative player in the history of America FC, my team. He didn't win much with America though, only one title, but he was the greatest. Total idol. After the injury the butcher from Trinidad y Tobago gave him, he lost much speed but gained a lot of timing. Due to the injury he came back to play in Mexico for America.

In his last season with America, because of his age and he would continue to play in the MLS, he took the team to the final. He scored the equalizer with a tremendous free kick, it was so great the moment that the narrators of the rival TV station couldn't stop licking his balls, and he later gave Cabanas a pass to score the winning goal, but he missed. Later the same Cabanas was fouled in the area in a clear penalty the referee didn't want to give. They finally lost the game.

It was the final game of Cuauhtemoc with America, people cried. I cried and drank a bottle of whisky by myself.



Zidane should've scored that goal.
Cuauhtemoc should've retired winning that title.
Ronaldo should've scored that goal when he dribled like 5 in the area and the ball hit the post.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby sempaispellcheck on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:31 pm

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who, patrick dempsey? is he still on that show?

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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:34 pm

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betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line... :cry: :cry:

I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!


But France has a good team again don't they?

How many 2nd places qualify?


basically for europe you have 9 groups, 1sts are qualified and the 8 best 2nds go to playoffs home and away and 4 teams qualify.
All groups are of 6 teams except the group offrance and spain tha is of 5 teams. but from what I understood and to not make it unfair for the group with 5 teams, to compare 2nds they will remove results vs the teams finishing 6th in the 6 teams groups.

I don't know about france, I kind of had little hopes till the eurocup game vs ukraine where we played good. Then for the last game vs sweden we were ridiculous, but still qualified for quarter finals, then we were totally shit in quarter finals vs spain losing without even fighting. Blanc got sacked and now it's Deschamps. He's had pretty decent results so far, including a draw in spain vs spain and a win in italy vs italy in the last 2 games.
The team has a terrible image since the WC 2010 in france, and they are struggling to be "likeable" again. We don't tolerate anymore any bad behaviour outside the pitch, and any little thing they do becomes a scandal here (like nasri asking the press to shut up with his hand when he scored vs england in the eurocup). They are all money hungry assholes only caring for their next club contract and how much more money they'll make. They have no respect for the blue jerzey nor for the one of the club that employs them. Their mentality is true shit. Those are the words of the 98' generation...


Anyway, how much longer do you guys think spain will stay on the top spot? I can't wait to see them lose!!!! :twisted:
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:46 pm

nietzsche wrote:
betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line... :cry: :cry:

I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!



I think Zidane legacy is great but imagine if he had scored that header? Basically he came out of the retire in the national team to make France almost win another World Cup.

There's a similar story in Mexican Football, there's this player, Cuahtemoc Blanco who is the most representative player in the history of America FC, my team. He didn't win much with America though, only one title, but he was the greatest. Total idol. After the injury the butcher from Trinidad y Tobago gave him, he lost much speed but gained a lot of timing. Due to the injury he came back to play in Mexico for America.

In his last season with America, because of his age and he would continue to play in the MLS, he took the team to the final. He scored the equalizer with a tremendous free kick, it was so great the moment that the narrators of the rival TV station couldn't stop licking his balls, and he later gave Cabanas a pass to score the winning goal, but he missed. Later the same Cabanas was fouled in the area in a clear penalty the referee didn't want to give. They finally lost the game.

It was the final game of Cuauhtemoc with America, people cried. I cried and drank a bottle of whisky by myself.



Zidane should've scored that goal.
Cuauhtemoc should've retired winning that title.
Ronaldo should've scored that goal when he dribled like 5 in the area and the ball hit the post.



I think the headbut and the way we lost the final is now part of the legacy. Zidane was god, he proved he was only human. had he made that header, he would be considered without a doubt the best french player of all times a top 5 of all times; but today both of these statements can be argued.

of course I remember Blanco, mostly because of his frog jumps with the ball, the guy invented something!!! :lol:
hey how does the mexican championship go, you guys have some groups and playoffs like americans would do, it's not a championship right?

ps: is cuhatemoc an aztec name??? never heard of other mexicans with aztec names!
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:59 pm

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nietzsche wrote:
betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line... :cry: :cry:

I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!



I think Zidane legacy is great but imagine if he had scored that header? Basically he came out of the retire in the national team to make France almost win another World Cup.

There's a similar story in Mexican Football, there's this player, Cuahtemoc Blanco who is the most representative player in the history of America FC, my team. He didn't win much with America though, only one title, but he was the greatest. Total idol. After the injury the butcher from Trinidad y Tobago gave him, he lost much speed but gained a lot of timing. Due to the injury he came back to play in Mexico for America.

In his last season with America, because of his age and he would continue to play in the MLS, he took the team to the final. He scored the equalizer with a tremendous free kick, it was so great the moment that the narrators of the rival TV station couldn't stop licking his balls, and he later gave Cabanas a pass to score the winning goal, but he missed. Later the same Cabanas was fouled in the area in a clear penalty the referee didn't want to give. They finally lost the game.

It was the final game of Cuauhtemoc with America, people cried. I cried and drank a bottle of whisky by myself.



Zidane should've scored that goal.
Cuauhtemoc should've retired winning that title.
Ronaldo should've scored that goal when he dribled like 5 in the area and the ball hit the post.



I think the headbut and the way we lost the final is now part of the legacy. Zidane was god, he proved he was only human. had he made that header, he would be considered without a doubt the best french player of all times a top 5 of all times; but today both of these statements can be argued.

of course I remember Blanco, mostly because of his frog jumps with the ball, the guy invented something!!! :lol:
hey how does the mexican championship go, you guys have some groups and playoffs like americans would do, it's not a championship right?

ps: is cuhatemoc an aztec name??? never heard of other mexicans with aztec names!


The system is bullshit. It fosters mediocity. There have been some variants in the last years but basically we have 2 tournaments per year, in each teams play each other in one stadium only, and the first 8 (at some point the first 10) play each other in quaterfinals, home and away. You could have a team winning all his games in the regular season and then have a bad afternoon and end up eliminated. And for this same reason we have low quality games. At some point it was 4 groups and the first 2 of each group and the 2 best 3rds qualified.

The gold mine of the owners of the clubs still is the national team, but the last couple of years they've been trying to make changes in the league because people stopped watching. I myself stopped too 2-3 years ago. With Fox, ESPN and another local channel broadcasting games of Europe, the choice is simple.

And yes, Cuauhtemoc is an aztec name. There are a few people with those type of names.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:01 pm

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betiko wrote:
CBlake wrote:Spurs are ghey they won't play my man clark more instead they add Adebayor in F' em


who, patrick dempsey? is he still on that show?

No, CLINT Dempsey. The best American footballer not named Donovan or Howard.


I was making fun of this guy! ;)
By the way.... Adebayor is a striker and dempsey an attacking midfielder.

by the way... arsenal won 7-3 tonight vs newcastle, wow!
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Re: Football (real)

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betiko wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line... :cry: :cry:

I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!



I think Zidane legacy is great but imagine if he had scored that header? Basically he came out of the retire in the national team to make France almost win another World Cup.

There's a similar story in Mexican Football, there's this player, Cuahtemoc Blanco who is the most representative player in the history of America FC, my team. He didn't win much with America though, only one title, but he was the greatest. Total idol. After the injury the butcher from Trinidad y Tobago gave him, he lost much speed but gained a lot of timing. Due to the injury he came back to play in Mexico for America.

In his last season with America, because of his age and he would continue to play in the MLS, he took the team to the final. He scored the equalizer with a tremendous free kick, it was so great the moment that the narrators of the rival TV station couldn't stop licking his balls, and he later gave Cabanas a pass to score the winning goal, but he missed. Later the same Cabanas was fouled in the area in a clear penalty the referee didn't want to give. They finally lost the game.

It was the final game of Cuauhtemoc with America, people cried. I cried and drank a bottle of whisky by myself.



Zidane should've scored that goal.
Cuauhtemoc should've retired winning that title.
Ronaldo should've scored that goal when he dribled like 5 in the area and the ball hit the post.



I think the headbut and the way we lost the final is now part of the legacy. Zidane was god, he proved he was only human. had he made that header, he would be considered without a doubt the best french player of all times a top 5 of all times; but today both of these statements can be argued.

of course I remember Blanco, mostly because of his frog jumps with the ball, the guy invented something!!! :lol:
hey how does the mexican championship go, you guys have some groups and playoffs like americans would do, it's not a championship right?

ps: is cuhatemoc an aztec name??? never heard of other mexicans with aztec names!


The system is bullshit. It fosters mediocity. There have been some variants in the last years but basically we have 2 tournaments per year, in each teams play each other in one stadium only, and the first 8 (at some point the first 10) play each other in quaterfinals, home and away. You could have a team winning all his games in the regular season and then have a bad afternoon and end up eliminated. And for this same reason we have low quality games. At some point it was 4 groups and the first 2 of each group and the 2 best 3rds qualified.

The gold mine of the owners of the clubs still is the national team, but the last couple of years they've been trying to make changes in the league because people stopped watching. I myself stopped too 2-3 years ago. With Fox, ESPN and another local channel broadcasting games of Europe, the choice is simple.

And yes, Cuauhtemoc is an aztec name. There are a few people with those type of names.



so are you telling me that in mexico half of the teams in first division play just 1 game vs all the other teams then they are done for the season? lol.
But mexican clubs win every year the north american champion's league and kick the but of mls teams right?
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