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Re: Football (real)

Postby GreecePwns on Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:06 am

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so are you telling me that in mexico half of the teams in first division play just 1 game vs all the other teams then they are done for the season? lol.
But mexican clubs win every year the north american champion's league and kick the but of mls teams right?


Well yes, but MLS teams are not such a big challenge. Mexico also plays as a guest in Copa Libertadores, which is the best tournament of the continent, but CONCACAF make the Mexican league to send not the best teams but the second best, because they want the best teams to play their shitty tournament. Nevertheless Mexico has been close to win the tournament despite having to deal with ridiculous rules like the one that says that if a Mexican team is in the final, no matter the position the final game must be in South America, or the fact that if both Mexican teams are in semifinals they have to face each other.


I think they should unite the conmebol and concacaf anyways. the concacaf is just about mexico and the US, all the rest is bellow shit. For the world cup qualifiers I think the group is too long for the conmebol, every country plays one another twice.
They should just do a huge panamerican confedereation with more and smaller groups. This would improve the level of mexico and the US. I do think that both are quite underrated for being part of such a weak confederation with no opponents.
It does feel right to have mexican teams in the libertadores, for example. why not mls as well?

Anyway, another ridiculous thing is that the oceaninan cofederation still exists while the only worthy team, australia, is now attached to the asian federation. Why don't they just merge both? a confederation for NZ and a few ridiculously small islands, really?? europe- africa- asia+pacific- americas would do it.


Can you imagine the crazy lengths for travel that would involve? Let's say a Canadian club is in the same group as an Argentinian club in some hypothetical "Champions League." Either team having to travel that far midweek and then back to play a league game would be exhausted.

European teams don't have to deal with traveling so much, while two clubs in Europe could be a ten or twenty minute drive from one another in America clubs are very widely spread out throughout the country. Imagine a big European club to travel all over Europe for a full 34 game season, and then imagine that teams in Europe would occasionally have to fly to South Africa midweek to play a Champions League game. It'd be very difficult to implement this.

As much as we'd like to see it, the two won't merge. If anything, North and Central America countries could possibly split off from the tiny Caribbean nations which hold so much voting power in FIFA and are incredibly corrupt (Jack Warner, for example).
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:52 pm

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betiko wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
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so are you telling me that in mexico half of the teams in first division play just 1 game vs all the other teams then they are done for the season? lol.
But mexican clubs win every year the north american champion's league and kick the but of mls teams right?


Well yes, but MLS teams are not such a big challenge. Mexico also plays as a guest in Copa Libertadores, which is the best tournament of the continent, but CONCACAF make the Mexican league to send not the best teams but the second best, because they want the best teams to play their shitty tournament. Nevertheless Mexico has been close to win the tournament despite having to deal with ridiculous rules like the one that says that if a Mexican team is in the final, no matter the position the final game must be in South America, or the fact that if both Mexican teams are in semifinals they have to face each other.


I think they should unite the conmebol and concacaf anyways. the concacaf is just about mexico and the US, all the rest is bellow shit. For the world cup qualifiers I think the group is too long for the conmebol, every country plays one another twice.
They should just do a huge panamerican confedereation with more and smaller groups. This would improve the level of mexico and the US. I do think that both are quite underrated for being part of such a weak confederation with no opponents.
It does feel right to have mexican teams in the libertadores, for example. why not mls as well?

Anyway, another ridiculous thing is that the oceaninan cofederation still exists while the only worthy team, australia, is now attached to the asian federation. Why don't they just merge both? a confederation for NZ and a few ridiculously small islands, really?? europe- africa- asia+pacific- americas would do it.


Can you imagine the crazy lengths for travel that would involve? Let's say a Canadian club is in the same group as an Argentinian club in some hypothetical "Champions League." Either team having to travel that far midweek and then back to play a league game would be exhausted.

European teams don't have to deal with traveling so much, while two clubs in Europe could be a ten or twenty minute drive from one another in America clubs are very widely spread out throughout the country. Imagine a big European club to travel all over Europe for a full 34 game season, and then imagine that teams in Europe would occasionally have to fly to South Africa midweek to play a Champions League game. It'd be very difficult to implement this.

As much as we'd like to see it, the two won't merge. If anything, North and Central America countries could possibly split off from the tiny Caribbean nations which hold so much voting power in FIFA and are incredibly corrupt (Jack Warner, for example).


you mean derbys! you are talking as if half of the games were derbys... but yeah I get your point, although you could still have groups done by geographic proximity for first stage then when you advance you can play any american nation..
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:13 am

betiko wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:
betiko wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
betiko wrote:

so are you telling me that in mexico half of the teams in first division play just 1 game vs all the other teams then they are done for the season? lol.
But mexican clubs win every year the north american champion's league and kick the but of mls teams right?


Well yes, but MLS teams are not such a big challenge. Mexico also plays as a guest in Copa Libertadores, which is the best tournament of the continent, but CONCACAF make the Mexican league to send not the best teams but the second best, because they want the best teams to play their shitty tournament. Nevertheless Mexico has been close to win the tournament despite having to deal with ridiculous rules like the one that says that if a Mexican team is in the final, no matter the position the final game must be in South America, or the fact that if both Mexican teams are in semifinals they have to face each other.


I think they should unite the conmebol and concacaf anyways. the concacaf is just about mexico and the US, all the rest is bellow shit. For the world cup qualifiers I think the group is too long for the conmebol, every country plays one another twice.
They should just do a huge panamerican confedereation with more and smaller groups. This would improve the level of mexico and the US. I do think that both are quite underrated for being part of such a weak confederation with no opponents.
It does feel right to have mexican teams in the libertadores, for example. why not mls as well?

Anyway, another ridiculous thing is that the oceaninan cofederation still exists while the only worthy team, australia, is now attached to the asian federation. Why don't they just merge both? a confederation for NZ and a few ridiculously small islands, really?? europe- africa- asia+pacific- americas would do it.


Can you imagine the crazy lengths for travel that would involve? Let's say a Canadian club is in the same group as an Argentinian club in some hypothetical "Champions League." Either team having to travel that far midweek and then back to play a league game would be exhausted.

European teams don't have to deal with traveling so much, while two clubs in Europe could be a ten or twenty minute drive from one another in America clubs are very widely spread out throughout the country. Imagine a big European club to travel all over Europe for a full 34 game season, and then imagine that teams in Europe would occasionally have to fly to South Africa midweek to play a Champions League game. It'd be very difficult to implement this.

As much as we'd like to see it, the two won't merge. If anything, North and Central America countries could possibly split off from the tiny Caribbean nations which hold so much voting power in FIFA and are incredibly corrupt (Jack Warner, for example).


you mean derbys! you are talking as if half of the games were derbys... but yeah I get your point, although you could still have groups done by geographic proximity for first stage then when you advance you can play any american nation..


I think they should merge the Copa America and Golden Cup.. it's a tournament hosted by one nation once every 4 years.. This way, South America nations would have qualifiers to reach this.. Consequently, they should split their world cup qualifiers into 2 groups instead of shitty 10 teams round robin which negatively affected the performance and levels of South America nations.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:45 am

I agree pirlo. The concacaf and the OFC are way too shitty, just merge them with the conmebol and the AFC.
Also, isn't it ridiculous for the club world cup championship each year to have these type of teams who always lose on the first round? or in the confederation cup...
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Nola_Lifer on Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:33 pm

I don't understand what yall are trying to fix here? Putting two shitty things together doesn't make it any better. Seems like it would make it shittier.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:44 pm

Nola_Lifer wrote:I don't understand what yall are trying to fix here? Putting two shitty things together doesn't make it any better. Seems like it would make it shittier.


well if you think the conmebol is shitty, for you there is just the uefa that's worth something? the libertadores is a hell of a tournament, if mexicans and americans could play it with fair chances, it would definitely make their clubs progress internationally.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:03 pm

betiko wrote:
Nola_Lifer wrote:I don't understand what yall are trying to fix here? Putting two shitty things together doesn't make it any better. Seems like it would make it shittier.


well if you think the conmebol is shitty, for you there is just the uefa that's worth something? the libertadores is a hell of a tournament, if mexicans and americans could play it with fair chances, it would definitely make their clubs progress internationally.


sad but true... South america football is no longer as decent as used to be. I'm a fan of that part of the world (football wise), but let's face it, as UEFA's unstoppable progress goes, corruption in South America just held their progress back.

I think the 10 nations qualifiers competition for 4-5 places in world cup finals just diluted the strength of their 2 giants, Argentina and Brazil.

Those 2 don't have to worry about their places in World cup anymore. Argentina know they can lose 6 games and still advance, while in the past when it used to be 5 teams in each group, they knew they couldn't afford more than one defeat or 2 as maximum. so why would they bother to strategize and play seriously? Not to mention how exhausting it gets when a player has to cross the ocean too many times to represent his national team.

I still remember the 2011 Copa America hosted by Argentina... and I still remember how Tevez and Lavezzi lacked fitness, and they seemed to be too fat as players... what the hell their coach was doing? and how in the world he left them get to that? and they still got to be starters while Kun Aguero was benched :roll:
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:45 pm

well the brazilian championship is getting each time more money.... pato signed for the corinthians today!
and by the way... the corinthians won the club's world cup a couple of weeks ago vs chelsea, so they aren't too far off.
The copa america and the african cup of nation should be held 1ce every 4 years, just like the eurocup. calendars don't have time for that shit, and making the event rare makes people and players more into it.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:49 pm

betiko wrote:well the brazilian championship is getting each time more money.... pato signed for the corinthians today!
and by the way... the corinthians won the club's world cup a couple of weeks ago vs chelsea, so they aren't too far off.
The copa america and the african cup of nation should be held 1ce every 4 years, just like the eurocup. calendars don't have time for that shit, and making the event rare makes people and players more into it.


Copa america is held every 4 years... African one still needs to be the same.. and it's much better if they held it in summer instead of mid-season.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:13 am

Pirlo wrote:
betiko wrote:well the brazilian championship is getting each time more money.... pato signed for the corinthians today!
and by the way... the corinthians won the club's world cup a couple of weeks ago vs chelsea, so they aren't too far off.
The copa america and the african cup of nation should be held 1ce every 4 years, just like the eurocup. calendars don't have time for that shit, and making the event rare makes people and players more into it.


Copa america is held every 4 years... African one still needs to be the same.. and it's much better if they held it in summer instead of mid-season.


oh they did change it for the copa america,but it's since an edition or 2 max right?

africa, it's just impossible to make it in the northern hemispheresummer, unless it s in south africa..
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:10 am

betiko wrote:
Pirlo wrote:
betiko wrote:well the brazilian championship is getting each time more money.... pato signed for the corinthians today!
and by the way... the corinthians won the club's world cup a couple of weeks ago vs chelsea, so they aren't too far off.
The copa america and the african cup of nation should be held 1ce every 4 years, just like the eurocup. calendars don't have time for that shit, and making the event rare makes people and players more into it.


Copa america is held every 4 years... African one still needs to be the same.. and it's much better if they held it in summer instead of mid-season.


oh they did change it for the copa america,but it's since an edition or 2 max right?

africa, it's just impossible to make it in the northern hemispheresummer, unless it s in south africa..


Copa america is kind of confusing... it used to be regularly held every 2 years till 2001.. then the crap began when they shifted it to 2004 instead of 2003 upon a request made by the FIFA... the next one was held 3 years later in 2007 which made it even more confusing.. 4 years later, they held the next one and to my knowledge, it's gonna be every 4 years.

Africa? yeah their atmosphere is annoying but they need to make it every 4 years.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby tzor on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:01 pm

Listening to the game on the satellite radio. FA: Chelsea 5 FA: Southampton 1

Listening to the game is interesting.

In a few minutes I'll be listening to FA: Manchester United FA: West Ham United
Just heard that Beckham is at the stadium with his kids watching the game.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:16 pm

tzor wrote:Listening to the game on the satellite radio. FA: Chelsea 5 FA: Southampton 1

Listening to the game is interesting.

In a few minutes I'll be listening to FA: Manchester United FA: West Ham United
Just heard that Beckham is at the stadium with his kids watching the game.


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Re: Football (real)

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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:27 pm

Messi you legend!

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Re: Football (real)

Postby Gillipig on Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:42 pm

Pirlo wrote:Messi you legend!

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He was sporting the beatles look in 2010 lol. Kidding aside the amount of goals he puts up is pretty sick, don't dare to say he's better than Maradona because I'm not old enough to have seen Maradona play, but he's certainly the best striker of today.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby sempaispellcheck on Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:48 pm

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He was sporting the beatles look in 2010 lol. Kidding aside the amount of goals he puts up is pretty sick, don't dare to say he's better than Maradona because I'm not old enough to have seen Maradona play, but he's certainly the best striker of today.

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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:15 pm

that suit was worn just because maradona had one like that when he received one of his ballons d'or.

just let messi win a world cup and there will be no such thing called maradona in argentina.

ps: scary to see how a face can change from one year to the next..
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:29 pm

betiko wrote:that suit was worn just because maradona had one like that when he received one of his ballons d'or.

just let messi win a world cup and there will be no such thing called maradona in argentina.

ps: scary to see how a face can change from one year to the next..


I don't think he needs the world cup to prove his quality.. it's just media and grumpy old people who think the world cup is the most elite title.

While I don't see the comparison valid because each of them belongs to a completely different era of football history, I'd always tend to think the newer generations are better than the older ones because things keep getting harder as humanity will always be developing. Our parents keep underestimate us though! :D

lol @ the face change... could be due to his young age.. you know, people evolve more when they are younger. Or it could be due to the hell of pressure those superstars experience during their career, especially when the hugest pain (aka Mourinho) is your constant rival on the pitch and press conferences!
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:09 am

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Re: Football (real)

Postby chang50 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:49 am

Pirlo wrote:Messi you legend!

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The best I've watched play in 50 years viewing..better than Maradona,Pele,Cruyff,Best,Zidane,and not at his peak yet......phenomenal.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Gillipig on Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:15 am

Pirlo wrote:
betiko wrote:that suit was worn just because maradona had one like that when he received one of his ballons d'or.

just let messi win a world cup and there will be no such thing called maradona in argentina.

ps: scary to see how a face can change from one year to the next..


I don't think he needs the world cup to prove his quality.. it's just media and grumpy old people who think the world cup is the most elite title.

While I don't see the comparison valid because each of them belongs to a completely different era of football history, I'd always tend to think the newer generations are better than the older ones because things keep getting harder as humanity will always be developing. Our parents keep underestimate us though! :D

lol @ the face change... could be due to his young age.. you know, people evolve more when they are younger. Or it could be due to the hell of pressure those superstars experience during their career, especially when the hugest pain (aka Mourinho) is your constant rival on the pitch and press conferences!

He needs a world cup! It's the holy grail in football, like stanley cup is for hockey.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby chang50 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:36 am

Gillipig wrote:
Pirlo wrote:
betiko wrote:that suit was worn just because maradona had one like that when he received one of his ballons d'or.

just let messi win a world cup and there will be no such thing called maradona in argentina.

ps: scary to see how a face can change from one year to the next..


I don't think he needs the world cup to prove his quality.. it's just media and grumpy old people who think the world cup is the most elite title.

While I don't see the comparison valid because each of them belongs to a completely different era of football history, I'd always tend to think the newer generations are better than the older ones because things keep getting harder as humanity will always be developing. Our parents keep underestimate us though! :D

lol @ the face change... could be due to his young age.. you know, people evolve more when they are younger. Or it could be due to the hell of pressure those superstars experience during their career, especially when the hugest pain (aka Mourinho) is your constant rival on the pitch and press conferences!

He needs a world cup! It's the holy grail in football, like stanley cup is for hockey.


Hypothetical question,what if a player as brilliant as Messi or Maradona played for a country that had no chance of even qualifying for the World Cup never mind winning it,would they deserve to be ranked best player in the world?
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:54 am

chang50 wrote:
Gillipig wrote:
Pirlo wrote:
betiko wrote:that suit was worn just because maradona had one like that when he received one of his ballons d'or.

just let messi win a world cup and there will be no such thing called maradona in argentina.

ps: scary to see how a face can change from one year to the next..


I don't think he needs the world cup to prove his quality.. it's just media and grumpy old people who think the world cup is the most elite title.

While I don't see the comparison valid because each of them belongs to a completely different era of football history, I'd always tend to think the newer generations are better than the older ones because things keep getting harder as humanity will always be developing. Our parents keep underestimate us though! :D

lol @ the face change... could be due to his young age.. you know, people evolve more when they are younger. Or it could be due to the hell of pressure those superstars experience during their career, especially when the hugest pain (aka Mourinho) is your constant rival on the pitch and press conferences!

He needs a world cup! It's the holy grail in football, like stanley cup is for hockey.


Hypothetical question,what if a player as brilliant as Messi or Maradona played for a country that had no chance of even qualifying for the World Cup never mind winning it,would they deserve to be ranked best player in the world?


Bingo... legends like Shevchenko and Nedved barely qualified and took their nations there to WC.. but they are still legends... Messi was offered a place in Spain's team, but he rejected it for his shitty national team.

I think Argentina team is too crap to win especially with the incredible progress and dominance of Europeans recently. Even Maradona himself wouldn't be able to win it with today's Argentina IMO!
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:03 am

Pirlo wrote:
I think Argentina team is too crap to win especially with the incredible progress and dominance of Europeans recently. Even Maradona himself wouldn't be able to win it with today's Argentina IMO!


Now stop your car there. Can you really say this?

What about Tevez, el Kun, LAvezzi, Higuain. (i know their all offenders, still impressive)

And what about other Argentinian teams that we've all said they were a super team and never did anything? (previous to messi)

You cannot go and say that, specially because you say many other things profesionally, you are venturing a big guess there.

Maradona was Maradona and may never be Messi or Pele but Maradona was Maradona. Messi will never be Maradona. Maradona will never be Messi.

But Maradona won a world cup and scored a spectacular goal against England, epic not only because he left 6 behind but by the way and style he did it. He was a natural.

Messi will be the best by the end of his era whether he wins or not a WC, but he will never be Maradona. Maradona was a natural, a born hero. Messi don't. He's different, perhaps the best, but he's not Maradona.

Winning a WC has his merit, let's not make it trivial.

Zidane, Ronaldo, Maradona, players that won a WC for their teams. Don't take that away from them.
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