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Re: Football (real)

Postby Gillipig on Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:42 pm

Pirlo wrote:Messi you legend!

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He was sporting the beatles look in 2010 lol. Kidding aside the amount of goals he puts up is pretty sick, don't dare to say he's better than Maradona because I'm not old enough to have seen Maradona play, but he's certainly the best striker of today.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby sempaispellcheck on Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:48 pm

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Pirlo wrote:Messi you legend!

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He was sporting the beatles look in 2010 lol. Kidding aside the amount of goals he puts up is pretty sick, don't dare to say he's better than Maradona because I'm not old enough to have seen Maradona play, but he's certainly the best striker of today.

Agreed! Such is the joy of being a Barça fan. :D
That polka-dot suit is just awful, though. I didn't know they even made anything like that - and I didn't want to, to be honest.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:15 pm

that suit was worn just because maradona had one like that when he received one of his ballons d'or.

just let messi win a world cup and there will be no such thing called maradona in argentina.

ps: scary to see how a face can change from one year to the next..
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:29 pm

betiko wrote:that suit was worn just because maradona had one like that when he received one of his ballons d'or.

just let messi win a world cup and there will be no such thing called maradona in argentina.

ps: scary to see how a face can change from one year to the next..


I don't think he needs the world cup to prove his quality.. it's just media and grumpy old people who think the world cup is the most elite title.

While I don't see the comparison valid because each of them belongs to a completely different era of football history, I'd always tend to think the newer generations are better than the older ones because things keep getting harder as humanity will always be developing. Our parents keep underestimate us though! :D

lol @ the face change... could be due to his young age.. you know, people evolve more when they are younger. Or it could be due to the hell of pressure those superstars experience during their career, especially when the hugest pain (aka Mourinho) is your constant rival on the pitch and press conferences!
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:09 am

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Re: Football (real)

Postby chang50 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:49 am

Pirlo wrote:Messi you legend!

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The best I've watched play in 50 years viewing..better than Maradona,Pele,Cruyff,Best,Zidane,and not at his peak yet......phenomenal.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Gillipig on Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:15 am

Pirlo wrote:
betiko wrote:that suit was worn just because maradona had one like that when he received one of his ballons d'or.

just let messi win a world cup and there will be no such thing called maradona in argentina.

ps: scary to see how a face can change from one year to the next..


I don't think he needs the world cup to prove his quality.. it's just media and grumpy old people who think the world cup is the most elite title.

While I don't see the comparison valid because each of them belongs to a completely different era of football history, I'd always tend to think the newer generations are better than the older ones because things keep getting harder as humanity will always be developing. Our parents keep underestimate us though! :D

lol @ the face change... could be due to his young age.. you know, people evolve more when they are younger. Or it could be due to the hell of pressure those superstars experience during their career, especially when the hugest pain (aka Mourinho) is your constant rival on the pitch and press conferences!

He needs a world cup! It's the holy grail in football, like stanley cup is for hockey.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby chang50 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:36 am

Gillipig wrote:
Pirlo wrote:
betiko wrote:that suit was worn just because maradona had one like that when he received one of his ballons d'or.

just let messi win a world cup and there will be no such thing called maradona in argentina.

ps: scary to see how a face can change from one year to the next..


I don't think he needs the world cup to prove his quality.. it's just media and grumpy old people who think the world cup is the most elite title.

While I don't see the comparison valid because each of them belongs to a completely different era of football history, I'd always tend to think the newer generations are better than the older ones because things keep getting harder as humanity will always be developing. Our parents keep underestimate us though! :D

lol @ the face change... could be due to his young age.. you know, people evolve more when they are younger. Or it could be due to the hell of pressure those superstars experience during their career, especially when the hugest pain (aka Mourinho) is your constant rival on the pitch and press conferences!

He needs a world cup! It's the holy grail in football, like stanley cup is for hockey.


Hypothetical question,what if a player as brilliant as Messi or Maradona played for a country that had no chance of even qualifying for the World Cup never mind winning it,would they deserve to be ranked best player in the world?
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:54 am

chang50 wrote:
Gillipig wrote:
Pirlo wrote:
betiko wrote:that suit was worn just because maradona had one like that when he received one of his ballons d'or.

just let messi win a world cup and there will be no such thing called maradona in argentina.

ps: scary to see how a face can change from one year to the next..


I don't think he needs the world cup to prove his quality.. it's just media and grumpy old people who think the world cup is the most elite title.

While I don't see the comparison valid because each of them belongs to a completely different era of football history, I'd always tend to think the newer generations are better than the older ones because things keep getting harder as humanity will always be developing. Our parents keep underestimate us though! :D

lol @ the face change... could be due to his young age.. you know, people evolve more when they are younger. Or it could be due to the hell of pressure those superstars experience during their career, especially when the hugest pain (aka Mourinho) is your constant rival on the pitch and press conferences!

He needs a world cup! It's the holy grail in football, like stanley cup is for hockey.


Hypothetical question,what if a player as brilliant as Messi or Maradona played for a country that had no chance of even qualifying for the World Cup never mind winning it,would they deserve to be ranked best player in the world?


Bingo... legends like Shevchenko and Nedved barely qualified and took their nations there to WC.. but they are still legends... Messi was offered a place in Spain's team, but he rejected it for his shitty national team.

I think Argentina team is too crap to win especially with the incredible progress and dominance of Europeans recently. Even Maradona himself wouldn't be able to win it with today's Argentina IMO!
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:03 am

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I think Argentina team is too crap to win especially with the incredible progress and dominance of Europeans recently. Even Maradona himself wouldn't be able to win it with today's Argentina IMO!


Now stop your car there. Can you really say this?

What about Tevez, el Kun, LAvezzi, Higuain. (i know their all offenders, still impressive)

And what about other Argentinian teams that we've all said they were a super team and never did anything? (previous to messi)

You cannot go and say that, specially because you say many other things profesionally, you are venturing a big guess there.

Maradona was Maradona and may never be Messi or Pele but Maradona was Maradona. Messi will never be Maradona. Maradona will never be Messi.

But Maradona won a world cup and scored a spectacular goal against England, epic not only because he left 6 behind but by the way and style he did it. He was a natural.

Messi will be the best by the end of his era whether he wins or not a WC, but he will never be Maradona. Maradona was a natural, a born hero. Messi don't. He's different, perhaps the best, but he's not Maradona.

Winning a WC has his merit, let's not make it trivial.

Zidane, Ronaldo, Maradona, players that won a WC for their teams. Don't take that away from them.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby JBlombier on Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:06 am

Pirlo wrote:Even Maradona himself wouldn't be able to win it with today's Argentina IMO!

This exactly. Messi is a legend for his own skills. You can't blame Argentina for not keeping up with that. Of course Messi needs good players behind him to make the goals, but the way he has with the ball is just incredible. Most of us, including me, are too young to have seen Maradona play live, but I'm quite certain Messi has a unique gift that hasn't been seen before.

As for nietzsche's post, he's right. A WC has its merit, but I'm not trying to take away from them. It just doesn't have much to do with the skill of one particular player.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:11 am

just put guardiola as head coach of argentina, then you'll tell me if they have a shit team.
Seriously, compare argentina and brazil individually. the argentinians have way better players, this generation of brazilians sucks. Spanish are getting old
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Re: Football (real)

Postby JBlombier on Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:42 pm

betiko wrote:just put guardiola as head coach of argentina, then you'll tell me if they have a shit team.
Seriously, compare argentina and brazil individually. the argentinians have way better players, this generation of brazilians sucks. Spanish are getting old

I might be interested in discussing this with you, but I'd like to hear your point.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Nola_Lifer on Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:02 pm

betiko wrote:just put guardiola as head coach of argentina, then you'll tell me if they have a shit team.
Seriously, compare argentina and brazil individually. the argentinians have way better players, this generation of brazilians sucks. Spanish are getting old


It is nice to have 4 or 5 of the best attacking players in the world but it doesn't matter if you can't defend worth a shit or you can't get the ball to them in proper positions. Spanish aren't as old as you think. They should be good for next world cup. You could argue they will have more players at their peak in more positions next year.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby sempaispellcheck on Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:42 pm

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betiko wrote:just put guardiola as head coach of argentina, then you'll tell me if they have a shit team.
Seriously, compare argentina and brazil individually. the argentinians have way better players, this generation of brazilians sucks. Spanish are getting old


It is nice to have 4 or 5 of the best attacking players in the world but it doesn't matter if you can't defend worth a shit or you can't get the ball to them in proper positions. Spanish aren't as old as you think. They should be good for next world cup. You could argue they will have more players at their peak in more positions next year.

AND, there are a LOT of good players in the Spanish U21 side. Spain will be a team to beat for a long time to come.
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