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Postby vtmarik on Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:40 pm

Sammy gags wrote:i dont care about Iraq, theres just something wierd going on between Iran purchasing Uranium from Australia & North Korea testing Nuclear missiles. & i dont think America will be last to this crisis because Bush has already consulted the UN, China, Japan, & South Korea urging them 2 unite against North Korea. & as u all noticed with Iraq & Saddam Hussein, George W Bush does not practice appeasement with other rulers liek democrats & most European leaders. Wut Kim is doing is suspiciously like Hitler except in the communist form. He has a strong propaganda & his ppl blindly worship him. As long as he flies low & doesnt really try 2 conquer any other country, he will get most countries to appease to him because of his not quite developed, but advancing nuclear missiles


Well, where else are they gonna get the Uranium? America?

And a better parallel for Kim would be Stalin, since Hitler abandoned the Socialist part of his party once he was in power.

People are going to appease N. Korea for the same reason you buy the screaming child the toy: to shut him up for an hour.
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Postby vtmarik on Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:41 pm

minihaymanz wrote:so hitler shot ICMB's into the ocean?
oh and btw, its communist, there is only 1 party. People can't blindly follow anyone else.


That's what he said dummy. Read the whole post before you respond lest you look like a dummy.
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Postby Sammy gags on Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:38 pm

ya, but if i compared Kim 2 Stalin, he wouldnt seem like much of a threat, it sounds way more threatening if i compare him 2 hitler. & Bush isnt appeasing to Kim, thats wut i like about him, he demolishes threats before they can develop
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Postby reverend_kyle on Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:30 pm

Sammy gags wrote:ya, but if i compared Kim 2 Stalin, he wouldnt seem like much of a threat, it sounds way more threatening if i compare him 2 hitler. & Bush isnt appeasing to Kim, thats wut i like about him, he demolishes threats before they can develop



So you are trying to twist the facts to sway support in one particular way....


that my friend is propaganda...


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Postby Sammy gags on Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:53 pm

of course i wanna exaggerate the threat, if i didnt this topic would be boring. & it is always better 2 overestimate than underestimate
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Postby reverend_kyle on Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:56 pm

Sammy gags wrote:of course i wanna exaggerate the threat, if i didnt this topic would be boring. & it is always better 2 overestimate than underestimate


Whatever you say hitler...

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Postby jay_a2j on Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:53 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:
Sammy gags wrote:of course i wanna exaggerate the threat, if i didnt this topic would be boring. & it is always better 2 overestimate than underestimate


Whatever you say hitler...

Shave your moustache a bit diff tommorrow...



Why does the left like to throw around the "Hitler" stuff?
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Postby reverend_kyle on Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:01 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:
Sammy gags wrote:of course i wanna exaggerate the threat, if i didnt this topic would be boring. & it is always better 2 overestimate than underestimate


Whatever you say hitler...

Shave your moustache a bit diff tommorrow...



Why does the left like to throw around the "Hitler" stuff?



Did you read his posts before? I was mocking him... because he compared Kim Jong Il to hitler to over estimate him and make him sound like a bigger threat.. So I was mocking him by over exaggerating him as hitler.. If you read it'd make perfect sense...

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Postby jay_a2j on Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:19 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:
Sammy gags wrote:of course i wanna exaggerate the threat, if i didnt this topic would be boring. & it is always better 2 overestimate than underestimate


Whatever you say hitler...

Shave your moustache a bit diff tommorrow...



Why does the left like to throw around the "Hitler" stuff?



Did you read his posts before? I was mocking him... because he compared Kim Jong Il to hitler to over estimate him and make him sound like a bigger threat.. So I was mocking him by over exaggerating him as hitler.. If you read it'd make perfect sense...

Why does the right shun public education where they could learn to read better...




Ummm if you can't see the problem in our public schools you're blind. And if you are so in favor of free will wouldn't the option of school vouchers be an extention of free will?

I'm not against public education..... but they either need to raise the standards or offer school vouchers cause kids are graduating who can't even read their diploma's!
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Postby reverend_kyle on Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:20 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:
Sammy gags wrote:of course i wanna exaggerate the threat, if i didnt this topic would be boring. & it is always better 2 overestimate than underestimate


Whatever you say hitler...

Shave your moustache a bit diff tommorrow...



Why does the left like to throw around the "Hitler" stuff?



Did you read his posts before? I was mocking him... because he compared Kim Jong Il to hitler to over estimate him and make him sound like a bigger threat.. So I was mocking him by over exaggerating him as hitler.. If you read it'd make perfect sense...

Why does the right shun public education where they could learn to read better...




Ummm if you can't see the problem in our public schools you're blind. And if you are so in favor of free will wouldn't the option of school vouchers be an extention of free will?

I'm not against public education..... but they either need to raise the standards or offer school vouchers cause kids are graduating who can't even read their diploma's!


Dont school vouchers make MY tax money go to pay for someone to have private school... If I cant go to private schoool why should I be paying for someone else to.
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Postby jay_a2j on Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:42 pm

My taxes are paying for the crappy public school system! The vouchers would be my own tax money to send my kids to a private scool! YOUR tax money would stay in the public school.
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Postby reverend_kyle on Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:57 pm

jay_a2j wrote:My taxes are paying for the crappy public school system! The vouchers would be my own tax money to send my kids to a private scool! YOUR tax money would stay in the public school.



taxes are an american duty....


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Postby minihaymanz on Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:47 pm

taxes are essential for a country to run.
With the states, you guys don't have free healthcare, and your school system (highschool-gradeschool-etc) sucks (university is one of the finest).
I personally don't mind paying the extra tax for the free healthcare in canada. because I know if I'm ever hurt (which I never have been, or atleast bad enough to go to the hospital for), I can still get treated. People are hurt everyday and can't afford the hospital expenses. I wouldn't mind if the government raised the taxes a bit (20%) so that we could have more free things.

I think its like norway or sweeden or somewhere near there, they have like 80% tax, but its free schooling, free mostly everything
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Postby morph on Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:51 pm

um cuz im beating kyle out of the posts lol and i can and do have something to say bout this


ok much as i hate to do this but jay has it more right... if he is paying for private school he is also paying for public, taxes are going to public, no taxes go to private schools, because private schools are made to have income by what they are being paid... and so therefore the government dosnt give them money, and they are not told or inforced by the government to follow public guidelines that the public schools are doing... trust me my cousins are going to private schools all their lives (personally i think they are babied way to much by parents and private school that when they get into the real life they will be shocked all to hell)

so ya...
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Postby minihaymanz on Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:59 pm

if he is going to private, thats a personal choice. your not gonna get out of paying for public. The country is run off of like 2 people just paying taxes. Everyone has to pitch in so that its easier. I don't know exactly how the system works in the states, but you may be paying for public school but they're also paying for your defence. so its easier if you don't complain
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Postby reverend_kyle on Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:00 am

morph wrote:um cuz im beating kyle out of the posts lol and i can and do have something to say bout this


ok much as i hate to do this but jay has it more right... if he is paying for private school he is also paying for public, taxes are going to public, no taxes go to private schools, because private schools are made to have income by what they are being paid... and so therefore the government dosnt give them money, and they are not told or inforced by the government to follow public guidelines that the public schools are doing... trust me my cousins are going to private schools all their lives (personally i think they are babied way to much by parents and private school that when they get into the real life they will be shocked all to hell)

so ya...


Its called altruism... just because you arent using the services doesnt mean you shouldn't have to pay for them... I'm not using the war in Iraq but the government still takes money out of my paycheck to pay off the bombs... I'm not using the roads(no liscense)... I still get money taken out of my paycheck to pay for them.. Just because you aren't using the public schools doesnt mean your money shouldnt go for them...hell its not even altruism.. Its common sense.. You still have the free will to go send your kids to public school thats not different however, you dont have the free will to just not pay your taxes because those are essential for government functions one of which being public school....just becasue you are rich enough to send your kids to private school.....

Not to mention in republican states such as Idaho the school underfunding Is very very very prevalent... My parents are teachers at schools here in Idaho and besides being vastly underpaid and both of them having to work just to pay the bills they are also watching teachers/janitors/other workers being fired off like crazy because no one is wanting to fund the schools..... on top of that now the republicans are trying to introduce school vouchers which allow mostly the rich(who afford private) to decide that they dont want to pay their taxes benefitting public school... sorry to tell you but paying those taxes is an american duty and if you can have your taxes going towards private school then i should be able to choose where mine go to...unlike the war, roads, and the porkbarrell shit they have their hands in...
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Postby Darkfire001 on Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:45 pm

^

Well we did save the Brits & French. Hence so much arms dealling before America technically entered the war.
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Postby vtmarik on Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:36 pm

Stop whining about your precious taxes. If you cared where your taxes went, you'dve voted for someone with some sense of fiscal responsibility.

School vouchers are good, because if more kids go to private schools then the public schools would have to improve in order to keep the kids they already have.

Competition breeds improvement, that's how the free market supposedly works.
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Postby minihaymanz on Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:18 pm

vtmarik wrote:School vouchers are good, because if more kids go to private schools then the public schools would have to improve in order to keep the kids they already have.


they wouldn't have any money to improve...
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Postby reverend_kyle on Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:35 pm

vtmarik wrote:Stop whining about your precious taxes. If you cared where your taxes went, you'dve voted for someone with some sense of fiscal responsibility.

School vouchers are good, because if more kids go to private schools then the public schools would have to improve in order to keep the kids they already have.

Competition breeds improvement, that's how the free market supposedly works.


My vote doesnt count.. I live in idaho... Bush wins my state no matter what...
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Postby treborenial on Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:43 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:
vtmarik wrote:Stop whining about your precious taxes. If you cared where your taxes went, you'dve voted for someone with some sense of fiscal responsibility.

School vouchers are good, because if more kids go to private schools then the public schools would have to improve in order to keep the kids they already have.

Competition breeds improvement, that's how the free market supposedly works.


My vote doesnt count.. I live in idaho... Bush wins my state no matter what...


you are giving a bad name to Idaho by associating Bush or any self centered presidential candidate with it
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Postby reverend_kyle on Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:42 am

who won the state in 2000 2004 and what party has won it in every election since 1948...
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Postby jay_a2j on Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:18 am

reverend_kyle wrote:who won the state in 2000 2004 and what party has won it in every election since 1948...




Well I guess my vote doesn't count either. NY has not gone Republican since Reagan. But I still vote hoping NYer's will wake up some day.
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Postby reverend_kyle on Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:35 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:who won the state in 2000 2004 and what party has won it in every election since 1948...




Well I guess my vote doesn't count either. NY has not gone Republican since Reagan. But I still vote hoping NYer's will wake up some day.


but you DID endorse the sucky president that VT was trying to pin me to.
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Postby morph on Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:40 pm

in general... last election we had shitty presidental choices anyways...
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