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Postby jay_a2j on Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:04 am

Ok, now that I have your attention click the link below and then click Tiller the baby killer...... watch the video and post your responce. It's people like that woman who are carelessly destroying American values.


LINK: http://www.foxnews.com/oreilly/index.html#
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Postby vtmarik on Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:21 am

I don't suppose there's any way of just reading the transcript is there?

The video link is making my urge to kill rise.
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Postby MeDeFe on Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:00 am

Won't load here. But what values are you exactly talking about anyway? And no I'm not asking that to provoke you.
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Postby mightyal on Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:41 am

Good for him.

Every woman is a cross in your filthy theology.
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Postby vtmarik on Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:45 am

MeDeFe wrote:Won't load here. But what values are you exactly talking about anyway? And no I'm not asking that to provoke you.


You know, the values that say a woman can't get an abortion because it's murder but also discourages educating people to use birth control in order to prevent pregnancy because pre-marital sex is a sin.

The values that say a woman can't enter into the special forces because, to quote Newt Gingrich, "they get infections."

The values that help create a birth-control method for women that has nasty side effects like heart problems, blood clots, and cancer while at the same time developing a birth control method for men that has no side effects according to current tests.

You know, traditional family values!
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Postby Blitzkreig on Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:59 am

That lady is so out of wack it's amazing! I couldn't believe the ideals she was supporting!
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Postby SirSebstar on Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:59 am

so basicly it seems wrong to abort babies by 10 to 15 year old.
Now i am wondering, the creatos of that statment have not indicated on what they base this evidence.
to me it looks like gossip, you know why.
IF they knew anything, they too would be obligated to report this inmediately to the proper authorities.

you can bet your ass that if there was any thruth to that, this good doc would have been stopped long time ago.

something else.
late term abortions may be considered wrong, but what is late term.
i would say at the point where the baby can be taken out of the womkb and still live, thats when its late.
anything before, and it just not viable to live.

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Postby jay_a2j on Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:01 am

Leave it to VT to get it twisted.


The video is of some feminist who seems to favor abortion for any reason what-so-ever. Privided however that a "Dr.'s expert advice" that a depressed woman should have an abortion cause she "may not be ready to have a child". This is all talking about late term abortions (9 months into it).

Not to mention the 10 year old girl who gets raped...her "right" to an abortion and the Clinics "right" to protect the rapist. Its crazy. Its getting worse, society in gerneral is getting worse.

I'll leave you with a quote that I coined myself: A woman's right to choose doesn't trump a childs right to live
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Postby SirSebstar on Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:03 am

one nice addition
the people who shout the hardest in the case, the "concervatists"
hey aer the once who scream the loudest to kill (deathpenalty) yuongsters..
funny how that works

mom cant be allowed to kill her unborn child (or we kill her for it)
but kids (who dont really know, at least not according to the legal system) can be killed by the state. funny

http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/tables/treaties.htm
look at the fact that the US is clearly not interrested in woman or childern rights.
this gives a telltale sign about what they are interrested in...
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Postby jay_a2j on Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:11 am

I am against the death penalty. However in defence of those in favor of it...There is a difference in killing an innocent unborn child and a 16 year old who shoots his family. If you don't see the difference, there is the problem.
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Postby SirSebstar on Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:29 am

i see the problem as follows, the child should never be allowed to be near a weapon, or better put, the weapon should never be in range for a child to use.
a child by definition cannot be expected to understand what he/she is doing. Equal to a braindefect.
An unborn child is a heavy fysiological and emotional burden on the mother. I dont presume to know better then the mother, but apprently you do.
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Postby jay_a2j on Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:51 am

SirSebstar wrote:i see the problem as follows, the child should never be allowed to be near a weapon, or better put, the weapon should never be in range for a child to use.



In a perfect world..... but this isn't a perfect world.



An unborn child is a heavy fysiological and emotional burden on the mother. I dont presume to know better then the mother, but apprently you do.


Did you mean psycological? Then can she not keep hers legs closed? Maybe get a birth control presciption? Make the guy wrap it? Hey, if preventive measures work for the kid with the gun it should work here. Of course thats too easy. :wink:
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Postby SirSebstar on Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:09 am

jay_a2j wrote:Did you mean psycological? Then can she not keep hers legs closed? Maybe get a birth control presciption? Make the guy wrap it? Hey, if preventive measures work for the kid with the gun it should work here. Of course thats too easy. :wink:


nope i meant fysical.
as in body. The having of a child is incrediably heavy on a woman. It takes at least 5 years for a woman to recover of having given birth.

but to return to your argument, its not a perfect world. So basicly you try to make it a perfect world where you can control what a mother does or does not, but you dont care for the living?(as in the child you were about to allow to sentence to death?!)

the piece of trash you refered to also mentioned rape victems, its kinda hard to tell to them to keep their legs closed dont you think?

i would find it more logical to NOT kill anybody who has shown to be , as capable of living(in breathing) and care a bit less about something that has not even been born
lets face it, the clause in the law that alledgedly allows this good doctor to "abuse" has been put there for a reason, and is not unique to that region. If you have a problem with it, collect evidence(as opposed to hearsay) and report it as is your duty. quit making people suffer just because they want to take their live into their own hands but do so according to a set of morals, unlike yourself
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Postby MeDeFe on Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:23 am

And you still haven't answered my question, jay.
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Postby SirSebstar on Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:29 am

i think i should stop posting for a while. no need to feed the troll
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