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Postby P Gizzle on Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:07 am

that's what im sayin
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Postby Neano on Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:37 pm

The Colts went 14-2 in 2005 but i think they only won 13 in a row not 14.
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Postby strike wolf on Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:05 pm

Dolphins in '72 won more than 14 games in a row. They went on to win the Super Bowl so that would be 17 in a row right? There for they did more than just 16 games in a row. It's easier to slip up in the playoffs against good teams than in the regular season when you play whosever on your list because the teams are tougher and therefore those 3 wins should count.
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Postby sfhbballnut on Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:01 pm

So if a team makes it through the whole regular season undeafeated and loses in the first round of the playoff's, their achievement is unequal to that of the Dolphins? What if the made it to the Super Bowl and lost? They'd go down as the longest winning streak, but are the still lesser than the 'phins?
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Postby strike wolf on Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:03 pm

sfhbballnut wrote:So if a team makes it through the whole regular season undeafeated and loses in the first round of the playoff's, their achievement is unequal to that of the Dolphins? What if the made it to the Super Bowl and lost? They'd go down as the longest winning streak, but are the still lesser than the 'phins?


No if that happens they will be the best, but right now we are talking about how the Dolphins streak should count.
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Postby Neano on Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:35 am

Two more games or not I think that the team should still have to go on to win the superbowl to be considered better than the 72 Dolphins. If they can't win the big game then they are not the best team ever....They aren't even the best team that year.
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Postby jay_a2j on Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:09 am

Neano wrote:Two more games or not I think that the team should still have to go on to win the superbowl to be considered better than the 72 Dolphins. If they can't win the big game then they are not the best team ever....They aren't even the best team that year.




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Postby P Gizzle on Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:10 am

sometimes the best team loses the super bowl. look no further than the Bills. missed FGs shouldnt stop them from being the best team that year.




if a team even goes 15-1, then wins the SB, i consider them better than the Phins
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Postby Neano on Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:47 am

So you can lose the Super Bowl but still be the best team? Why play a championship game then? The Super Bowl determines who is the best team that year. You could win every game through the year 50 to 0 but if you lose the championship you aren't the best team...kind of the reason they call the winner the champion.
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Postby P Gizzle on Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:40 pm

no, you don't get it. the Winner is the Champion, per se. but, sometimes the best actual team lost in the SB, or in the Division, whatever.......
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Postby what,me worry? on Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:42 pm

P Gizzle wrote:nope, and i still don't count the '72 Phins as undefeated cuz they played 14 reg. games, as opposed to the 16 reg. we play in today's NFL

You cant fault them for only being able to play 14 games. im sure if they were allowed 16 they would have done so. Plus how many teams today have even won 14 striaght in one season and gone on to win the super bowl?
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Postby P Gizzle on Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:51 pm

have a point, but i still don't count them......it's an asterisk. just like if so and so hit 5000000 home runs in a season with 1000000000000 games, is he really better than Ruth, or McGwire, or Maris???
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Re: Indy loses, no one remains undefeated

Postby DogDoc on Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:01 pm

P Gizzle wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
sfhbballnut wrote:I really thought they could pull it off this year, will anybody else ever pull off an undefeated season?



Yes. The Miami Dolphins did it in 1972. :wink:



but, with only 14 regular season games......the regular season games now are 16......the colts went 14-0 last year (i think, didn't they?) does that make them "undefeated"?


You forgot that the '72 Dolphins won 3 more games to make their season 17-0. Thats one-seven games without a defeat. Including the Super Bowl. I'm not a particular fan of the Dolphins (especially since the bastards took our coach :( ) but I do respect what the '72 team accomplished.

What separates the '72 Dolphins from all the other teams is that they did not suffer a letdown and did not choke when everything was on the line. Hey Indianapolis Dolts, you hearin' this??
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Postby Neano on Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:03 pm

Regardless of the how many games the Dolphins played no team has even come close to that yet. And if a team really was the best all time they would win the Super Bowl. You can't be considered the best team ever and lose the the deciding factor on who is the best team that year. I understand what you are saying about the streak and amount of games, but it still boils down to winning the whole thing.
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Postby dcowboys055 on Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:51 pm

You guys are looking at this the wrong way. Who cares about the loser of the game...the cowboys won! back on the road to the super bowl. i'd start my own "i love the cowboys" thread but nobody would post, or theyd flame the cowboys
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Postby DogDoc on Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:07 pm

dcowboys055 wrote:You guys are looking at this the wrong way. Who cares about the loser of the game...the cowboys won! back on the road to the super bowl. i'd start my own "i love the cowboys" thread but nobody would post, or theyd flame the cowboys


I would never pass up an opportunity to flame the Cowboys. :lol:
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