Re: the longest thread, thread - Occasionally NSFW
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:33 pm
I have usurped the throne of Norway!! Norway belongs to me now! Along with Iceland and the northernmost county of Scotland and all norwegian islands except the faroe islands which is English. I also hold most of Finland and still a big part of Lithuania as well as most of karelia. There seems to be no end to my warrior king's success !
Now I'm placed in a dilemma, I have many potential wars I could fight. Shall I;
#1) Declare war on England over the Faroe Islands.
The faroe islands won't bring me much tax nor troops, but it's strategically well positioned, I don't want an english king in control of it when the nearby islands all belong to me.
+ Positive:
It's a de jure claim so most likely no one will come to their aid.
The English king is facing a civil war.
- Negative:
The war could drag on for years if the vassal won't relinguish his rights to the county (If the vassal won't do that I have to make the King of England surrender the county to me, which would mean I'd have to attack mainland England.)
England is a traditionally powerful country, making enemies with them over a small island doesn't seem like a good idea.
The county would not go to me but to one of my norwegian vassals.
#2) Declare war on the Holy Roman Empire over three counties in Norway.
Well when I said I had Norway I actually don't have all of it. Three counties belong to the Holy Roman Empire. But I'm still crowned King of Norway.
For some reason (holy war or de jure) the Holy Roman Empire decided to seize the three most populous counties of Norway (where Oslo is).
+ Positive:
The counties in question would bring me much tax, and in the future, armies due to it's large amount of population.
It's a de jure claim so most likely no one will come to their aid.
I need to assault them sooner or later, it's a great security risk to leave an area so close to the centre of my empire open for an enemy to land troops in.
The inhabitants are christian as well as of the same culture so the vassals will most likely give in to my demands.
It's relatively far from their homeland.
They hold Jerusalem right now and are probably fighting hard just to keep that.
Most likely one of my vassals will declare war on the Holy Roman Empire due to de jure claims, so I might have to fight this war sooner rather than later anyway. (I don't think thery can win over the Holy Roman Empire without my help lol.)
- Negative:
It's the Holy fucking Roman Empire! They are capable of unloading tens of thousands of troops if they aren't busy fighting someone else. That is something no other foe I've faced so far can do.
They are not in a civil war.
The counties would not belong to me but to either my swedish or norwegian vassal (depending on which de jure claim I pursue.)
#3) Declare war on Scotland to expel the excommunicated King of Scotland.
Yes you heard right hehe, the King of Scotland has been cursed by the pope for converting to another religion. He will find no aid from Christian warlords should I attack him.
+ Positive:
If the counties around Oslo would bring in taxes it's nothing compared to what the Kingdom of Scotland would do to my bank balance. In the future I could summon a lot of troops from these counties.
It would make me King of yet another country.
All the scottish counties would belong to me. I could choose which I want to give to vassals, and I can choose which vassals that would be, and I could choose which I would keep for myself. (the good ones hehe)
Scotland is Christian which makes it easier to rule than counties of a different religion than mine. (less chance of revolt)
Strategically easy to attack from above, easy to advance my troops and protect the counties I've just seized.
Scotland is currently dealing with a minor civil war.
- Negative:
Even if no one helps them, it would be a massive war, I have the number on them for sure but my bank balance might not be able to muster a several year long war.
I would have to accept having the Holy Roman Empire on my doorstep while fighting this war.
If I win it will still be hard to hold. England can make de jure claims on it and might push me away right after I seize it.
#4) Declare a holy war over Finland or Karelia.
These would be easy wars at this point. I'd sweep them away in an instant. But would it be worth putting time on?
+ Positive:
Very slim chance of losing.
Quick wars, would be over in a short time.
Large chunks of land. (good for the ego)
Would put further distance between my core counties and Estonia (which is advancing in the region)
All the regions seized would belong to me, for me to do what i want with.
- Negative:
Foreign cultues and foreign religions. Large risk for revolts later.
Not much gain financially, nor in terms of troops.
Now I'm placed in a dilemma, I have many potential wars I could fight. Shall I;
#1) Declare war on England over the Faroe Islands.
The faroe islands won't bring me much tax nor troops, but it's strategically well positioned, I don't want an english king in control of it when the nearby islands all belong to me.
+ Positive:
It's a de jure claim so most likely no one will come to their aid.
The English king is facing a civil war.
- Negative:
The war could drag on for years if the vassal won't relinguish his rights to the county (If the vassal won't do that I have to make the King of England surrender the county to me, which would mean I'd have to attack mainland England.)
England is a traditionally powerful country, making enemies with them over a small island doesn't seem like a good idea.
The county would not go to me but to one of my norwegian vassals.
#2) Declare war on the Holy Roman Empire over three counties in Norway.
Well when I said I had Norway I actually don't have all of it. Three counties belong to the Holy Roman Empire. But I'm still crowned King of Norway.
For some reason (holy war or de jure) the Holy Roman Empire decided to seize the three most populous counties of Norway (where Oslo is).
+ Positive:
The counties in question would bring me much tax, and in the future, armies due to it's large amount of population.
It's a de jure claim so most likely no one will come to their aid.
I need to assault them sooner or later, it's a great security risk to leave an area so close to the centre of my empire open for an enemy to land troops in.
The inhabitants are christian as well as of the same culture so the vassals will most likely give in to my demands.
It's relatively far from their homeland.
They hold Jerusalem right now and are probably fighting hard just to keep that.
Most likely one of my vassals will declare war on the Holy Roman Empire due to de jure claims, so I might have to fight this war sooner rather than later anyway. (I don't think thery can win over the Holy Roman Empire without my help lol.)
- Negative:
It's the Holy fucking Roman Empire! They are capable of unloading tens of thousands of troops if they aren't busy fighting someone else. That is something no other foe I've faced so far can do.
They are not in a civil war.
The counties would not belong to me but to either my swedish or norwegian vassal (depending on which de jure claim I pursue.)
#3) Declare war on Scotland to expel the excommunicated King of Scotland.
Yes you heard right hehe, the King of Scotland has been cursed by the pope for converting to another religion. He will find no aid from Christian warlords should I attack him.
+ Positive:
If the counties around Oslo would bring in taxes it's nothing compared to what the Kingdom of Scotland would do to my bank balance. In the future I could summon a lot of troops from these counties.
It would make me King of yet another country.
All the scottish counties would belong to me. I could choose which I want to give to vassals, and I can choose which vassals that would be, and I could choose which I would keep for myself. (the good ones hehe)
Scotland is Christian which makes it easier to rule than counties of a different religion than mine. (less chance of revolt)
Strategically easy to attack from above, easy to advance my troops and protect the counties I've just seized.
Scotland is currently dealing with a minor civil war.
- Negative:
Even if no one helps them, it would be a massive war, I have the number on them for sure but my bank balance might not be able to muster a several year long war.
I would have to accept having the Holy Roman Empire on my doorstep while fighting this war.
If I win it will still be hard to hold. England can make de jure claims on it and might push me away right after I seize it.
#4) Declare a holy war over Finland or Karelia.
These would be easy wars at this point. I'd sweep them away in an instant. But would it be worth putting time on?
+ Positive:
Very slim chance of losing.
Quick wars, would be over in a short time.
Large chunks of land. (good for the ego)
Would put further distance between my core counties and Estonia (which is advancing in the region)
All the regions seized would belong to me, for me to do what i want with.
- Negative:
Foreign cultues and foreign religions. Large risk for revolts later.
Not much gain financially, nor in terms of troops.