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ObamaCare - "Give up your phone to get it!!!"

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:21 pm

The Efficiency of the Court System combined with the Compassion of the IRS
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby Timminz on Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:48 pm

I agree. There aren't nearly enough threads about this yet. I fully support the starting of another. Excellent points in your introduction, I might add.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby Neoteny on Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:49 pm

One sentence is perfectly adequate to discuss a simple issue like this.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby KuppenTruppen on Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:11 pm

You know what's fun? Complaining about something unrelated to the real problem at hand. I happen to think that free universal healthcare is a great idea. You know what I don't like though? Bureaucracy, which is found EVERYWHERE in your U.S. government. Having Public Healthcare will be no different than preparing your taxes, prosecuting someone, being prosecuted, getting on Welfare, registering to vote, or frankly doing anything else involving the government. Maybe it isn't that public healthcare is bad. Maybe it's just your government.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby jsholty4690 on Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:20 pm

KuppenTruppen wrote:You know what's fun? Complaining about something unrelated to the real problem at hand. I happen to think that free universal healthcare is a great idea. You know what I don't like though? Bureaucracy, which is found EVERYWHERE in your U.S. government. Having Public Healthcare will be no different than preparing your taxes, prosecuting someone, being prosecuted, getting on Welfare, registering to vote, or frankly doing anything else involving the government. Maybe it isn't that public healthcare is bad. Maybe it's just your government.


Finally, a foreigner that understands why many Americans don't want a government run health care system. Our government is inefficient at everything it does, just look at Social Security and Medicare, I know I won't see either of them.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:02 pm

you know what else, ive been watching these townhall explosions, and the media CNN namely is editing the crap out of them and distorting the whole thing. I had my "1984" moment and sat and watched in disbelief.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:04 pm

Phatscotty wrote:you know what else, ive been watching these townhall explosions, and the media CNN namely is editing the crap out of them and distorting the whole thing. I had my "1984" moment and sat and watched in disbelief.

you know what else else? I think a good amount of people who are from countries with socialized/nationalized/gov't run healthcare, when asked how their system is there, even if it did suck, would not admit it, on camera. Not to mention you have to weigh the biased of how their feeling about America effect the answers to that question when comparing to americas system.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby GabonX on Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:29 pm

This is a great thread
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby jsholty4690 on Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:58 pm

Phatscotty wrote:you know what else, ive been watching these townhall explosions, and the media CNN namely is editing the crap out of them and distorting the whole thing. I had my "1984" moment and sat and watched in disbelief.


I had mine a couple years ago, after I read the book. Welcome to the club.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby GabonX on Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:06 am

The answer to 1984 is 1776.

It's a cyclical process. I hope you guys weren't hoping for a comfortable and boring life.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby angola on Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:31 am

jsholty4690 wrote:
KuppenTruppen wrote:You know what's fun? Complaining about something unrelated to the real problem at hand. I happen to think that free universal healthcare is a great idea. You know what I don't like though? Bureaucracy, which is found EVERYWHERE in your U.S. government. Having Public Healthcare will be no different than preparing your taxes, prosecuting someone, being prosecuted, getting on Welfare, registering to vote, or frankly doing anything else involving the government. Maybe it isn't that public healthcare is bad. Maybe it's just your government.


Finally, a foreigner that understands why many Americans don't want a government run health care system. Our government is inefficient at everything it does, just look at Social Security and Medicare, I know I won't see either of them.



I don't know if I want a government run health care system, oh wait I do want one.

I have a good job. Been working in one form or another in it for 7 years, yet I still have to pay at least $70 every time I want to go to the doctor. f*ck that noise. Our present health care system is great for the rich, but f*ck the rich. It doesn't do anything for me, in the middle class. And once I retire? I have to pay a jillion dollars to get insured. Bullshit. Give me universal health care.

Something is starting to rise up in America. The poor/middle class are going to lash back against the rich - though all the idiots who are in those two groups who think Sarah Palin would make a good president, are making it harder to start the uprising. Hopefully, they will be purged by something.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby comic boy on Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:58 am

Phatscotty wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:you know what else, ive been watching these townhall explosions, and the media CNN namely is editing the crap out of them and distorting the whole thing. I had my "1984" moment and sat and watched in disbelief.

you know what else else? I think a good amount of people who are from countries with socialized/nationalized/gov't run healthcare, when asked how their system is there, even if it did suck, would not admit it, on camera. Not to mention you have to weigh the biased of how their feeling about America effect the answers to that question when comparing to americas system.


You do realise that you are talking about almost the entire developed world outside the US yes :D
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby Titanic on Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:54 am

comic boy wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:you know what else, ive been watching these townhall explosions, and the media CNN namely is editing the crap out of them and distorting the whole thing. I had my "1984" moment and sat and watched in disbelief.

you know what else else? I think a good amount of people who are from countries with socialized/nationalized/gov't run healthcare, when asked how their system is there, even if it did suck, would not admit it, on camera. Not to mention you have to weigh the biased of how their feeling about America effect the answers to that question when comparing to americas system.


You do realise that you are talking about almost the entire developed world outside the US yes :D


Exactly. Phatscotty you seem paranoid that theres some conspiracy against you. Maybe all of these hundreds of millions who live under universal healthcare actually like their system and prefer it to a profit base system.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:04 am

Phatscotty wrote:The Efficiency of the Court System combined with the Compassion of the IRS


Health care run by private insurance --

Fantastic care for the extremely rich, very good care for the moderate and only moderately wealthy people as long as they stay healthy and keep their job. For the rest -- forget even getting the tests you need to decide if you are seriously ill or not unless and until you are poor enough for Medicaid or old enough for Medicare.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby jsholty4690 on Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:00 am

angola wrote:
jsholty4690 wrote:
KuppenTruppen wrote:You know what's fun? Complaining about something unrelated to the real problem at hand. I happen to think that free universal healthcare is a great idea. You know what I don't like though? Bureaucracy, which is found EVERYWHERE in your U.S. government. Having Public Healthcare will be no different than preparing your taxes, prosecuting someone, being prosecuted, getting on Welfare, registering to vote, or frankly doing anything else involving the government. Maybe it isn't that public healthcare is bad. Maybe it's just your government.


Finally, a foreigner that understands why many Americans don't want a government run health care system. Our government is inefficient at everything it does, just look at Social Security and Medicare, I know I won't see either of them.


I don't know if I want a government run health care system, oh wait I do want one.

I have a good job. Been working in one form or another in it for 7 years, yet I still have to pay at least $70 every time I want to go to the doctor. f*ck that noise. Our present health care system is great for the rich, but f*ck the rich. It doesn't do anything for me, in the middle class. And once I retire? I have to pay a jillion dollars to get insured. Bullshit. Give me universal health care.

Something is starting to rise up in America. The poor/middle class are going to lash back against the rich - though all the idiots who are in those two groups who think Sarah Palin would make a good president, are making it harder to start the uprising. Hopefully, they will be purged by something.


I don't know way everytime I say I don't want a government run health care, they say I want health care to stay the same. I want it to be affordable to everyone and I think it can be done without the government taking over the system. All the government has to do is regulate the prices and do some tort reforms to make malpractice lawsuits less frequent. That should make Health Care more afordable to all Americans.

Oh, I am in the middle class and I have fine health care, it just seems like you or your employer picked the wrong one.
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