Night Strike wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:Contraceptives are not “free”, as you keep insisting.
I'm well aware they aren't truly free, yet the specific words of the regulation state that contraceptives must be provided free of charge.......that means the woman doesn't even have to pay a co-pay, yet she can get any type of contraceptive, whether it be $9 or $900. What prescription, especially a voluntary prescription, can a man get without paying a co-pay? THAT is why I said you're simply reversing the discrimination that you claim to be getting rid of.
and... if you "know its not free" then stop saying that it is1
If that really were the issue, then your demand would be to insert a co-pay, NOT to demand that employers get the right to choose.
Night Strike wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:I was born female. I need things that you do not because I am female. Some people are born with tendencies to high blood pressure. They can only control certain factors, not the disease.
Then YOU pay for those things. It's not my job to work in order to pay for YOU to have those things. I don't owe you anything simply because you're female. You don't owe me anything simply because I'm male.
This claim, again! Seriously, you just got through saying that you know its not free….. and now you are claiming that you are paying for “other people’s healthcare!’
No, you pay for your insurance. I pay for my insurance. I realize you like to ignore the purpose of insurance, but stop pretending this is about a crusade of payment instead of just a backdoor attempt to control women’s ability to get care they need.
PLAYER57832 wrote:That the employer pays part of the compensation with insurance does not mean its not compensation for work. AND, as I said many times before, a fact you can research quite easily if you had any interest in actually educating yourself about this instead of just spouting off what you think is true… the reason employers now buy insurance is because it benefitted THEM.
Of course they started providing health insurance benefits as a way to attract the best employees BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT HAD BANNED INCREASES IN WAGES!!!! If you banned from paying better people more money, then you have to find another incentive to woo them to your company. That's how the FREE MARKET works.
Night Strike wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:well, guess what, male sexual issues are covered quite well.
And men pay co-pays to get those medicines, if they're covered in their plans.
Oh brother! There is nothing consistant or honest about any of your views. Just face it. Your real objection is you don’t like women taking birth control or getting other services. The rest is just a back-pedaled attempt at justifying your views.
Night Strike wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:Just because you dislike women’s healthcare doesn’t give you the right to decide that this is some kind of optional coverage.
Where did I say I dislike women's healthcare? All I dislike is being mandated to pay for YOUR healthcare .
YOU are not paying for my or anyone else’s healthcare. You ARE paying for insurance. The way insurance works is that money gets pooled so that when you really need something incredibly expensive, its there for you. To claim it is somehow “abusive” because you stay healthy is not “free marketism”, its stupidity. Might as well cry because your house didn’t burn down!
Getting upset because women “get something you don’t get” is as stupid as getting angry because one person gets asthma medication or another has arthritis. If you want to deal with what women deal with constantly.. .there are operations you can get. Or you can just do a “fake trial” .