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Re: Liberty VS ObamaCare: Back to Supreme Court

Postby Symmetry on Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:14 pm

Night Strike wrote:
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Night Strike wrote:Except now we can't opt out of THIS program, so "always" isn't an accurate term.


You can always move to a country without nationalised healthcare.


Why would I move to a country that has an even worse system? And did you have fun spam quoting my post?


Apologies for that double post. I wasn't spamming you.

Anyway... are you telling me that countries without nationalised healthcare are worse than those with?
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Re: ObamaCare: Now we can see what's in it

Postby john9blue on Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:24 pm

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Night Strike wrote:...Who are you to demand that people have the kind of <insert lifestyle> that YOU deem appropriate? ...

This phrase stuck out to me, especially with other views on other topics.


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although, i don't think NS is necessarily "demanding" that people conform to his views (on homosexuality, i assume)... i think he just heavily disapproves of those who don't, lol
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Re: ObamaCare: Now we can see what's in it

Postby Nobunaga on Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:18 pm

The train, she's a comin'.

http://www.atr.org/obamacares-tax-hike- ... reck-a7587

Sad to read.
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Re: ObamaCare: Now we can see what's in it

Postby Lootifer on Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:56 pm

Nobunaga wrote:The train, she's a comin'.

http://www.atr.org/obamacares-tax-hike- ... reck-a7587

Sad to read.

Good lord you tax system is complicated (or more accurately, good lord I cannot be fucked thinking about the implications of the various pieces of that article since it applies to a tax system of a country I dont live in). Care to give a neutral-as-you-possibly-can run down of that article?
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Re: ObamaCare: Now we can see what's in it

Postby Phatscotty on Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:42 pm

Lootifer wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:The train, she's a comin'.

http://www.atr.org/obamacares-tax-hike- ... reck-a7587

Sad to read.

Good lord you tax system is complicated (or more accurately, good lord I cannot be fucked thinking about the implications of the various pieces of that article since it applies to a tax system of a country I dont live in). Care to give a neutral-as-you-possibly-can run down of that article?


It sure is complicated. I hope you can see just a little bit better where I and other like myself have been coming from. Most of us here in the USA have to pay someone else to do our taxes for us. Even the professionals have trouble sometimes.
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Re: ObamaCare: Now we can see what's in it

Postby Night Strike on Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:08 pm

This morning during his press conference, Obama claimed the number of Americans that are having problems with the implementation of Obamacare is very small.....approximately 10-15% of the country. Yet, the entire Obamacare law was passed specifically because of 10-15% of the country not having health insurance. So if the first group is irrelevant due to their size, why isn't the latter group?
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Re: ObamaCare: Now we can see what's in it

Postby Woodruff on Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:15 pm

Night Strike wrote:This morning during his press conference, Obama claimed the number of Americans that are having problems with the implementation of Obamacare is very small.....approximately 10-15% of the country. Yet, the entire Obamacare law was passed specifically because of 10-15% of the country not having health insurance. So if the first group is irrelevant due to their size, why isn't the latter group?


Did Obama actually say they were irrelevant? I find that unlikely, but would be interested if it were true.
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Re: ObamaCare: Now we can see what's in it

Postby Night Strike on Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:41 pm

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Night Strike wrote:This morning during his press conference, Obama claimed the number of Americans that are having problems with the implementation of Obamacare is very small.....approximately 10-15% of the country. Yet, the entire Obamacare law was passed specifically because of 10-15% of the country not having health insurance. So if the first group is irrelevant due to their size, why isn't the latter group?


Did Obama actually say they were irrelevant? I find that unlikely, but would be interested if it were true.


I added the "irrelevant" term since that's the implication when he says that the problems aren't very widespread. Even though by his own numbers they're nearly as much of the population as those who didn't have health insurance.
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Re: ObamaCare: Now we can see what's in it

Postby Woodruff on Wed May 01, 2013 12:14 pm

Night Strike wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Night Strike wrote:This morning during his press conference, Obama claimed the number of Americans that are having problems with the implementation of Obamacare is very small.....approximately 10-15% of the country. Yet, the entire Obamacare law was passed specifically because of 10-15% of the country not having health insurance. So if the first group is irrelevant due to their size, why isn't the latter group?


Did Obama actually say they were irrelevant? I find that unlikely, but would be interested if it were true.


I added the "irrelevant" term since that's the implication when he says that the problems aren't very widespread. Even though by his own numbers they're nearly as much of the population as those who didn't have health insurance.


Saying that a thing is small in number is not at all the same as saying that a thing is irrelevant. You seem to be having a lot of definatory issues today, Night Strike.
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Re: ObamaCare: Now we can see what's in it

Postby Night Strike on Wed May 01, 2013 12:33 pm

Woodruff wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Night Strike wrote:This morning during his press conference, Obama claimed the number of Americans that are having problems with the implementation of Obamacare is very small.....approximately 10-15% of the country. Yet, the entire Obamacare law was passed specifically because of 10-15% of the country not having health insurance. So if the first group is irrelevant due to their size, why isn't the latter group?


Did Obama actually say they were irrelevant? I find that unlikely, but would be interested if it were true.


I added the "irrelevant" term since that's the implication when he says that the problems aren't very widespread. Even though by his own numbers they're nearly as much of the population as those who didn't have health insurance.


Saying that a thing is small in number is not at all the same as saying that a thing is irrelevant. You seem to be having a lot of definatory issues today, Night Strike.


Obamacare was passed based on a small number of people, based on Obama's own definition of small. Why did we have to pass a trillion dollar tax and spend package for that small number of people yet ignore the same amount of people who are having trouble with the law?
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Re: ObamaCare: Now we can see what's in it

Postby comic boy on Wed May 01, 2013 1:19 pm

Night Strike
Do you truly believe that all numbers and percentages have the same weighting , do you seriously equate implementation problems with long term issues. I dont believe that you are so stupid as to believe such so Im puzzled as to why you would make such a ridiculous point, are you getting desperate ?
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Re: ObamaCare: Now we can see what's in it

Postby Woodruff on Wed May 01, 2013 7:08 pm

Night Strike wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Night Strike wrote:This morning during his press conference, Obama claimed the number of Americans that are having problems with the implementation of Obamacare is very small.....approximately 10-15% of the country. Yet, the entire Obamacare law was passed specifically because of 10-15% of the country not having health insurance. So if the first group is irrelevant due to their size, why isn't the latter group?


Did Obama actually say they were irrelevant? I find that unlikely, but would be interested if it were true.


I added the "irrelevant" term since that's the implication when he says that the problems aren't very widespread. Even though by his own numbers they're nearly as much of the population as those who didn't have health insurance.


Saying that a thing is small in number is not at all the same as saying that a thing is irrelevant. You seem to be having a lot of definatory issues today, Night Strike.


Obamacare was passed based on a small number of people, based on Obama's own definition of small. Why did we have to pass a trillion dollar tax and spend package for that small number of people yet ignore the same amount of people who are having trouble with the law?


Because our government is run by a bunch of dirtbags who are only interested in lining their own pockets. Is this a revelation to you, Night Strike? There really are very few members of Congress that deserve much respect at all, though there are a few.

However, I don't in the least believe that Obamacare was passed "based on a small number of people".
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Re: ObamaCare: Now we can see what's in it

Postby john9blue on Wed May 01, 2013 8:43 pm

Woodruff wrote:You seem to be having a lot of definatory issues today, Night Strike.


but at least he doesn't make up words... not that there's anything wrong with that
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Re: ObamaCare: Now we can see what's in it

Postby Night Strike on Thu May 02, 2013 1:32 am

Weren't we told Obamacare was fully funded when it passed? And I don't remember any bills signed into law that actually cut off any funding to implementing Obamacare.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/297333-reid-says-more-funding-is-needed-to-prevent-healthcare-law-from-becoming-a-train-wreck
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Re: ObamaCare: Now we can see what's in it

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri May 03, 2013 2:28 pm

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